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2024 Mar 24 19:07:11
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ 😌

2024 Mar 24 14:13:29
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 24 06:25:25
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed full moon Uposatha by following the conducts of the Arahats.

2024 Mar 23 13:11:16
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_

2024 Mar 21 01:07:56
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Mar 21 00:28:58
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 20 14:25:49
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 20 12:06:29
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Mar 20 11:24:06
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_

2024 Mar 18 21:42:50
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 18 19:43:59
Dhammañāṇa: Mudita, Nyom.

2024 Mar 18 19:36:35
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Undertaking this Sila day at my best.

2024 Mar 18 06:17:10
Dhammañāṇa: Those who undertake the Sila day today: may it be of much metta.

2024 Mar 18 02:16:41
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 17 21:09:31
អរិយវង្ស: 🚬🚬🚬

2024 Mar 17 06:30:53
Dhammañāṇa: Metta-full Sila day, those after it today.

2024 Mar 17 00:02:34
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 11 09:16:04
Dhammañāṇa: Once totally caught by google, AI and machines, every door has been closed for long, long term.

2024 Mar 11 09:14:04
Dhammañāṇa: People at large just wait that another would do his/her duty. Once a slight door to run back, they are gone. By going again just for debts, the wheel of running away turns on.

2024 Mar 10 18:59:10
Dhammañāṇa: Less are those who don't use the higher Dhamma not for defilement-defence, less those who don't throw the basics away and turn back to sensuality "with ease".

2024 Mar 10 06:51:11
Dhammañāṇa: A auspicious new-moon Uposatha for those observing it today.

2024 Mar 09 06:34:39
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed New-moon Uposatha, and birth reminder day of a monarchy of wonders.

2024 Mar 08 21:39:54
Dhammañāṇa: The best way to keep an Ashram silent is to put always duties and Sila high. If wishing it populated, put meditation (eating) on the first place.

2024 Mar 03 21:27:27
Dhammañāṇa: May those undertaking the Sila day today, spend it off in best ways, similar those who go after the days purpose tomorrow.

2024 Feb 25 22:10:33
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 24 06:42:35
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Māgha Pūjā and Full moon Uposatha with much reason for good recallings of goodness.

2024 Feb 24 01:50:55
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 23 06:39:57
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Feb 23 00:19:58
blazer: Taken flu again... at least leg pain has been better managed since many weeks and it's the greatest benefit. Hope Bhante Dhammañāṇa is fine  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 01:06:43
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 00:02:37
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 17 18:47:31
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of todays Sila-day.

2024 Feb 17 18:46:59
Dhammañāṇa: Chau Marco, chau...

2024 Feb 16 23:32:59
blazer: Just ended important burocratic and medical stuff. I will check for a flight for Cambodia soon  _/\_

2024 Feb 09 16:08:32
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 12:17:31
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 06:42:17
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed New moon Uposatha and last day of the Chinese year of the rabbit, entering the Year of the Naga wisely.

2024 Feb 02 21:17:28
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 02 19:53:28
Dhammañāṇa: May all have the possibility to spend a pleasing rest of Sila day, having given goodness and spend a faultless day.

2024 Jan 26 14:40:25
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 25 10:02:46
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Full moon Uposatha.

2024 Jan 11 06:37:21
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 07 06:31:20
Dhammañāṇa: May many, by skilful deeds,  go for real and lasting independence today

2024 Jan 06 18:00:36
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 16:57:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 12:33:08
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila-day, full of metta in thoughts, speech and deeds.

2023 Dec 30 20:21:07
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 27 23:18:38
Dhammañāṇa: May the rest of a bright full moon Uposatha serve many as a blessed day of good deeds.

2023 Dec 26 23:12:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 24 16:52:50
Dhammañāṇa: May all who celebrated the birth of their prophet, declaring them his ideas of reaching the Brahma realm, spend peaceful days with family and reflect the goodness near around them, virtuous, generously.

2023 Dec 20 21:36:37
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 20 06:54:09
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by conducting in peacefull manners.

2023 Dec 12 23:45:24
blazer:  _/\_

2023 Dec 12 20:34:26
Dhammañāṇa: choice, yes  :)

2023 Dec 12 13:23:35
blazer: If meaning freedom of choice i understand and agree

2023 Dec 12 12:48:42
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 12 06:13:23
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a great New Moon Uposatha, following the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Dec 10 12:51:16
Dhammañāṇa: The more freedom of joice, the more troubled in regard of what's right, what's wrong. My person does not say that people at large are prepared for freedom of joice even a little.

2023 Dec 10 10:59:42
blazer: Hope they eat more mindfully than how they talk. It is clear for the gross food, we had more than a talk about this topic. I have put so much effort in mindful eating at the temple, but when i was back i wanted more refined food. I was used to get a choice of more than 10 dishes every day

2023 Dec 10 06:57:44
Dhammañāṇa: A person eating on unskilled thoughts will last defiled, Nyom. Gross food does nothing for purification at all.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:58
blazer: I've had a couple of not nice experiences with monks that were not so pure in my opinion. They surely eat far better than me at temple.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:41
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 09 11:38:36
Dhammañāṇa: Spiritual prostitution, just another way of livelihood.

2023 Dec 05 20:59:38
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 27 14:47:22
អរិយវង្ស:   _/\_ _/\__/\_

2023 Nov 27 05:41:32
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Anapanasati- Fullmoon and reflect the goodness of Ven Sāriputta as well today.

2023 Nov 20 19:18:13
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 20 18:20:15
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 20 02:48:24
Moritz: Hello _/\_ Still possible to join: An-other Journey into the East 2023/24

2023 Nov 18 13:55:11
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 12 01:09:01
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2023 Nov 12 00:45:21
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 19:42:10
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 07:17:02
Dhammañāṇa: សិលា​នាំ​ទៅ​រក​ឯករាជ្យ​នៃ​ជាតិ! សូមឱ្យមនុស្សជាច្រើនប្រារព្ធទិវាឯករាជ្យ(ពី)ជាតិ។

2023 Nov 09 07:06:56
Dhammañāṇa: Sila leads to independence of Jati! May many observe a conductive Independence day.

2023 Nov 07 00:54:02
Dhammañāṇa: Nyoum

2023 Nov 07 00:39:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 15:47:51
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 12:21:27
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila observation day today.

2023 Oct 30 15:17:36
Dhammañāṇa: It's common in to give up that what's given to do assist me toward release, common that seeking security in what binds.

2023 Oct 30 13:22:27
អរិយវង្ស: ព្រះអង្គ :) កូណាលុប delta chat ហើយ :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 23 18:56:09
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 22 20:36:01
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of this Sila-day.

2023 Oct 19 20:31:12
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom Sreyneang

2023 Oct 15 07:07:01
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 14 06:53:21
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a New moon Uposatha based on goodwill for all, find seclusion in the middle of family duties.

2023 Sep 29 07:35:30
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:23:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:03:11
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed full moon Uposatha and begin of the ancestor weeks by lived metta and virtue: lived gratitude toward all being, toward one self.

2023 Sep 22 22:07:43
Dhammañāṇa: If no rush turn toward reducing sensuality and make Silas the top of priority, it's to fear that an Atomic conflic will be chosen soon, in the battle of control of the "drugs".

2023 Sep 22 14:59:39
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 22 06:35:51
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Uposatha Observance on this Sila-day, by conducting similar the Arahats.

2023 Sep 16 19:29:27
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 16 19:29:13
blazer: Hello everyone! I've just come back home. I had a long trip and no sleep for more than 30 hours, but currently feel quite good. I've had a good experience, i'm happy. I've found out much inspiration and many ideas about the training and the holy life. I'll recollect and write about them as soon as i've taken some rest. Hope to find you all well and in good health  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 15 05:25:24
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 14 21:09:49
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of New moon Uposatha today (later as no connection before).

2023 Sep 10 01:55:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Sep 09 18:52:54
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 09 18:52:28
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 08 06:19:20
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by maintaining goodwill toward all, not only by deeds and speech, but with nine factors, incl. a mind full of metta.

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Assimilating of Bhante Samahita's death, decay of beloved
« on: February 16, 2020, 08:00:23 AM »

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Now, 3 years later (after your last comments) what do you have to say about Bhante Samahita, after he has die?
« Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 09:05:29 AM by Johann »

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Re: Bhante Samatha death
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2020, 09:15:30 AM »
Not sure of what Nyom gvg likes to ask.
This post and Content has come to be by Dhamma-Dana and so is given as it       Dhamma-Dana: Johann

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Re: Bhante Samatha death
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2020, 09:36:18 AM »
Many are in shock and heartbroken after knowing that Bhante Samahita die back in October 2019.

I found out about his death just recently, 3 months later. What is shocking is that he committed suicide. If you go to his website https://www.what-buddha-said.net/ you will see a note at the very top saying that he committed suicide (while he was living in Denmark).

So, everybody is scratching their head to understand what happened. I have been reading several post and I noticed that back in 2013, (it looks like you and others) noticed that he was not in good mental health among other concerns.

Specially you, look like you didn't approve several things about him. It even looked personal. No special details have been disclosed about his death other that he committed suicide. There is no details about the cause of death, no autopsy reports.

It also looked that you followed him closely about everything he said or do.

I don't know how much you know him but can you comment about what can cause a monk like Bhante Samahita to commit suicide according to your personal observations??  Was he suffering from some mental illness that he tried to hide??  I have talked with some monks about his death and they said that unless they see an autopsy report, they cannot believe if he really killed himself (because it is "others" who said he committed suicide and in Buddhism everything has to be 100% confirmed). And he never left any note or mention anything about his intentions regarding his suicide.

So, an autopsy report will be needed to confirm or not if he really committed suicide.
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Re: Bhante Samatha death
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2020, 09:50:10 AM »
 
Just something more to consider. Bhante Samahita reported back in May 2018 that he suffered from a temporary demonic possession. He later created the youtube video trying to explain the demonic possession he suffered. That video called Dhamma on Air #100 is now removed.

The reason why he created this video was because he behaved very strange, sending emails to followers talking about end of the world paranoia or threat or something like that. Those that received those emails will know better because I didn't receive them. There was also emails advertising antivirus software to get protected...

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Re: Bhante Samatha death
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2020, 11:09:52 AM »
Now my person understands a little Nyom gvg s approach.

Sure, my person often tries to turn others in better direction. There had been often reasons for suspecting not so pure lifelihood, but he was never really accessible and hided himself.

My person became also attentive in regard his possension and mental instability, tried in may ways to reach out. Sadly he used to live withou, at least good, fellows. Advisory help for Bhante Samahita by fellows needed , which started with a warning letter against muslims.

Living my self alone in the forest, such phenomenas of possessions, especially when sick and weak, are know. A further extreme danger is to dwell with faults under Devas, Yakkas, spitits.

My person had no success to trace any fellow of his nor had he success in reaching out after his "disciple", if looking at the linked topic.

How ever, my person wasn't surprised coming known of his forced death.

Bhante used to think and speak different and to act in a third way and used not to live protected by observing Vinaya. Nothing more destructive then not cleaning oneself, bend ones ways, since often it leads to strong Vi-bhava.

May he have gained a blessed birth, metting the Gems, and his Dhamma-giving will be surely having been suppotive.

Once in modern world it's even more difficult to get support from people with right view and really caring does seldom anyone.

May it be also a lesson for many internet-inhabitats, to care first then to simply consume.
Sure he wasn't in the situation to live next careful people, but that is actually normal for monks not so taking on Vinaya, not keeping right lifelihood and engaged in worldly things, social work.

Aside of all, the Buddha often warned his monks not to live remote as long concentration section is not developed, since a person still attached to sense, for him the forest eats off his mind.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2020, 11:33:18 AM »

Why a highly educated monk like him avoided other fellow monks?  Even when he was sick, he looked only for the internet followers help instead of looking for help in a monastery where other monks will surely help him.

Can it be excessive pride?

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2020, 11:42:11 AM »
Many, if not most monks, seek sadly refuge in lay people rather then the Sangha, are of course sting and yes, pride is also the main reason to reject advices and long lasting help, Nyom.

There is no way to access such people, thinking in terms of friends and enemies.

Btw.: My person often advices not to communicate privatly since group is always a good protection for all. To easy defilments can lead to improper things, thinking one is not observed, has control on things.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2020, 11:45:43 AM »

Why do you refer to you as "my person"?

Is it to avoid the "I" because there is no "I" regarding the non-self doctrine?

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2020, 11:57:35 AM »
* Johann To talk in third person is still usually here, for adressing one self and others. Usually "Atma" is used here by monks when talking with no monks and if feeling that would confuse to much, "my person" is used by Atma, Nyom. The way of speech is a good training and requires to be not only clear about ones stand in a relation but to be also very attentive. Nyom, btw, is the polite adressing form of laypeople (usually without name calling, but if not used to it, not easy to understand) More if interested here: [Khmer] Anreden, Begrüßung | Forms of adress, Greeting and here: [N01] Familie, Anrede - family, adressing - គ្រួសារ, ការ គោរព - ñāti
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2020, 12:49:42 PM »
Thank you.

Going back to Bhante Samahita's Death:

Please correct me if I am wrong but I think that you started a topic called:

 "How fools in robes justify stealing" 

It looked to me that you was referring to Bhante Samahita. Am I right?

Because that was the topic that make me ask you what do you have to say now after his death?

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2020, 01:07:08 PM »
My person thinks that he might not have changed wrong views into right view, still thought that objectives justify means, but at least he might have changed his ways that it would not violate wordly rules.

But such is normal as long not gained firm stand on the path, the thinking in terms of rights as well as having still desires for engagements in the world.

As told, his ways havn't been praiseworthy and it's more to doubt that they got better living in outer lands. My person would not like to know much on money and possession issues... He was a very eager and zealous fondraiser with clear strategies. How ever, who would know his understanding at times his body breaked appart.

It would be also waste of time if speculating much about details.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2020, 03:03:17 PM »

Then, bhante with all respect, you did wrong. You should have been more respectful. Going public to reprimand a fellow monk using insults doesn't sound right to me. With that you even made others to follow the same behavior.

Even if your intentions were good, you still called him publicly practically a thief, idiot and a fool. Those are insults Bhante.

For sure Bhante Samahita was not perfect but I think the appropriate way to deal with whatever wrong doing he was doing was to try to first contact him privately.

Then, if he ignores the advice or if he doesn't want to reply to you and want to keep doing wrong, you know very well that you are not responsible for his mistakes.

So, trying to go public in front of millions of people in the internet to reprimand him publicly was very bad from your part. That looks to me like you got frustrated with him because he didn't listen to you and you acted out of anger going public to insult him, making it look like you was doing a good thing warning people about this monk "bad behavior".

Posting about any monk wrong doing, in general, without mentioning names, I think it will be better. So the public can read and learn about proper behavior, he can also read without feeling attacked and you will not be blamed of any wrong doing.

Now that he is gone, who knows if getting ridiculed and insulted publicly was one of the factors that contributed to his suicide. So many things can be a factor for suicide. For sure, failure is a very common factor in society to commit suicide. We don't know, but he may felt he fail as a monk if he is receiving public hard criticism. All these are speculations but the doubt is there. Now, you will need to live with the possibility that you may or may not have made the wrong contribution.

The bhantes that I know here in USA, will never, never, never, never humiliate a fellow monk in front of the world like you did. At least I cannot image that. They have showed me always a good example in proper behavior.

I am sorry if I am misunderstanding but that is the way I am seeing it.

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2020, 03:26:09 PM »
Nyoms view on it is understandable and my person wouldn't defend his way or seek to be understood, and yes, it's not something that one should follow.

May just so far: why shouldn't one not first address direct, of which is also public to be seen. And it's usual, that very public people wouldn't be touched privat.

Was that what you liked to express here public and does it give enough release, Nyom gvg ? May Nyom then use it for her welbeing.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2020, 04:26:17 PM »

Bhante you can't use Wrong Speech and Action to correct somebody. If you was right what did you gain at the end?

This is not about me who has to come here to "release" something in public. We don't need to understand you, (to excuse you). You too are also responsible for your actions. I will only comment on what you posted in that occasion because it looked specially bad for you to do it in that way. If I start checking what you post and criticize you, then I will be doing the same thing you did.

The Sri Lanka bhantes I follow here in the USA, were very respectful about Bhante Samahita. They didn't hide what they consider he did wrong but they didn't post anything negative in the internet. They don't engage in fights when they disagree because each person is responsible for his/her own actions. They give good advice for everybody or privately if requested.

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2020, 04:50:11 PM »
People after gain, at least for their wish for gain, should abstain from criticisms of beloved people, but for doing such hidden, such is really unvitruose and ugly. My person would not advice to associate with people speaking here in this way and there in other, for simply gain.

If one does not depend, then it's possible to speak frank.

And if you ideas would be right most of the Tipitaka would be wrong speech. To investigate it for yourself, don't you fear to critices a monk here right in the moment? If not good investigated, it can be of great disadvantage, or at least to learn.

If wishing to listen to Dhamma, it would require to set yourself right, Nyom.

It's, how ever, praiseworthy that Nyom wishes to advice to something that might be thought as better for my person. And it's also praiseworthy to get other involved public, at least from my person view, if it isn't for disadvantage for Nyom, of which she actually thinks it is, yet still make it as well. Good, bad? Do it like most and the Sri Lanken monk... diversive speech in the backyards for gain and taking side?

Again: take care of people who wish you to be pulled into privat first.
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