Good then, and no problem the delay (what would come was already clear).
So out of compassion and not a sample to follow, as well, here:
Let my person ask now for Nyom
gvg s next meeting with her trusted Monks:
* whether the senior Bhikkhus, in the case my person would be a Bhikkhu, did a transgression in as far as they told about a fault of another Bhikkhu toward a lay person, unless they are not given by the Sangha to do so
* whether they did even a more grave transgression, in the case the younger Monk isn't a "Bhikkhu".
* whether intention plays a role in regard of the transgression.
* whether it's given to talk with woman on such matters in even extended form, possible alone.
* What the kammical consequences for someone would be who criticises an even Noble Fellow (or monk) possible wrongly.
Then, as they lead Nyom right into the sphere of hell (as my person has no contact of this gain-desiring monks, doing favours for angry laywoman), ask them about the results if criticising wrongly, or even criticising (as such could be the case as well) a Noble One. For it is simply foolish and how ever old they might be, the Venerables have to be called fools, to tell a lay person that there is nothing wrong in criticising a monk, categorically.
As told already, there is nothing more dangerous as to associate with fools.
And then let my person add that an undertaking of wishing to split the Sangha, although just as a lay person, if touching case Noble ones, could also easy lead to a downfall transgression, one of the six kammas which lead straight to hell and hinder from what ever attaining upwardly in this existence. That was told for the case in which one might not have asked honestly but with certain deceitful intentions and then carries things in between.
So again, it's total foolish to believe that critic is bad and praise is good, but depends on sacca. Hopefully Nyom can see the hypotactic within all that and may she gives what ever good causes to get never in association with fools.
And yes, it's important to reflect that there are monks who can read mind and know actually well what will be next, is hidden, can be changed at this time, in this circumstances.
At least, best Greetings to the Venerables and good to tell them, that if letting go of desire for gain, it's easier to associate with monks, doesn't need improper dependency and association with lay people and would be not only for the own welfare but also for a long lasting of the Sangha. But if monks are hanging like calves on the breast of a cow, fear of lacking nutrition through lack of doing favours, that it's difficult for them, inwardly and outwardly as well.
As the Sublime Buddha also often accounted, even for ones disciples, when they act very foolish, the teacher(s) have to be called fools, because they didn't taught well.
Just for the case the Venerables would seek for solving transgressions and might not know: important for confessing a transgression is to find someone pure in this regard (not with same transgression) and it's total fine if finding a very youngster to do so. And it's also good not to receive an amend, if having actually the same fault carry with oneself, since such would then possible not really purify the one who makes confession or increases his wrong views.
And good of course if Nyom, rather than to run hidden around and make possible unskillful undertakings by breaking peoples apart, would be if she tries to lay out a bridge and tell the Venerables that they are more then welcome to make use of all possibilities here. Sure, such could be of cause strong again ones personal interests, could it? But there would lie a big change for grow.
And to give the most "funny" info, since Nyom said "I will not investigate in detail", the critic toward the late Bhikkhu was made by a formal lay person at this time, who invited a Bhikkhu, translated his teachings and, to take care on law and his reputation, removed stolen pictures in the translations, was therefore rebuked by him, aside that he criticised his wish to share teachings foremost to older and lonely people, since that would bring the best results and gains...
It's really foolish to act in such ways, Nyom, and it's even more foolish to take not only side but side with fools and what is called "notorious wrong does, not able to be corrected".
Whether it's a blessing to associate with fools or get disappointed of what is good to gain disappointment, that lies in the sphere of Nyoms judgement and ability to see through the net of defilements and desires.
For those who could gain health:
Avannaraha Sutta: Dispraise
“Bhikkhus, one possessing four qualities is deposited in hell as if brought there. What four? (1) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one speaks praise of one who deserves dispraise. (2) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one speaks dispraise of one who deserves praise. (3) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one believes a matter that merits suspicion. (4) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one is suspicious about a matter that merits belief. Possessing these four qualities one is deposited in hell as if brought there.
“Bhikkhus, one possessing four [other] qualities is deposited in heaven as if brought there. What four? (1) Having investigated and scrutinized, one speaks dispraise of one who deserves dispraise. (2) Having investigated and scrutinized, one speaks praise of one who deserves praise. (3) Having investigated and scrutinized, one is suspicious about a matter that merits suspicion. (4) Having investigated and scrutinized, one believes a matter that merits belief. Possessing these four qualities one is deposited in heaven as if brought there.”
It's hard to give more then this for ones long term happiness and not sure if another is capable to take and grow with it.