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2020 Apr 06 16:02:34
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 06 12:59:12
Johann: if wishing to join, here also his number: 011 505221

2020 Apr 06 12:57:49
Johann: In two days, Ven Sophorn of Wat Sampok Andeit likes to lead the villagers for a puja up Ashram Thmo Duk

2020 Apr 06 12:54:55
Johann: Best greetings from cool Thmo Dok

2020 Apr 06 12:54:55
Johann: Best greetings from cool Thmo Dok

2020 Apr 06 12:54:55
Johann: Best greetings from cool Thmo Dok

2020 Apr 06 12:54:55
Johann: Best greetings from cool Thmo Dok

2020 Apr 04 16:12:26
Cheav Villa: The heat was 38 degrees in Phnom Penh, and the cloud was covering the sun now _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 04 15:59:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhnate _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 04 15:56:49
Johann: Grundy= step grandson. Best wishes to all from the pleasing cool forest of Thmo Duk.

2020 Apr 04 15:54:52
Johann: Chan Roth’s Grundy came up to lend the device “Moritz likes to contact, lol ta” , well, no idea of how to use anything, so just waiting on any “ pling” and then follow a possible link of what ever media.

2020 Apr 04 15:54:52
Johann: Chan Roth’s Grundy came up to lend the device “Moritz likes to contact, lol ta” , well, no idea of how to use anything, so just waiting on any “ pling” and then follow a possible link of what ever media.

2020 Apr 04 15:39:04
Johann: All forum index, topic content would steady disappear when zoom in: white. Not possilbe to read or even write, Nyom Moriz

2020 Apr 02 06:37:53
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir einen gesunden und ausgeglichenen Geist gewinnen! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2020 Apr 02 06:37:20
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we gain a healthy and balanced mind! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2020 Apr 01 14:38:03
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante Dukka arises from Touch. Touch of Avijja. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 01 10:15:36
Moritz: And is it possible to describe more what is wrong in iPhone safari? Is it at least possible to read topics? I can not test anythng for iPhone safari here, without an iPhone. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 01 10:13:46
Administration: Could Bhante give some details about accounts not properly registered or getting errors?

2020 Apr 01 10:09:46
Moritz: I hope Bhante is able to receive enough almsfood and drinking water in this time of corona fear. I read there will soon be a curfew (people not allowed to go out) for some time). _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 01 10:01:53
Moritz: Account registration and confirmation emails should work. It could be that it lands in the spam folder.

2020 Apr 01 10:01:05
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 01 08:53:17
Johann: (Forum and topics to not display proper on iPhone safari, so writing here)

2020 Apr 01 08:51:48
Johann: Some accounts may not be activated proper or the user informed right. There have been errors and needs to be checked. Maybe Nyom Moritz already has back his old strength to look into it.

2020 Apr 01 08:48:36
Johann: Dukkha arises from touch. Touch of Avijja. From nothing else. So may all avoid the bond to foolishness and seek for wise.

2020 Apr 01 08:43:51
Johann: Sadhu

2020 Apr 01 07:21:40
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 01 04:54:03
Khemakumara: May it be a path- and fruitful sila day  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 01 04:51:07
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Mudita

2020 Mar 31 13:32:59
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 31 13:21:28
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 31 10:47:26
Johann: Lend device of Nyom Chanroth does not work well for now. Best greetings from the Bodhisatha of Phnom Srong to Bhangra Khemakumara. He’s missed by many, thinking lot on the blessing.

2020 Mar 31 10:25:42
Johann: May all spend a blessed Uppsala today

2020 Mar 31 08:54:28
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir jemals tolerant sein und das Gute und Schöne in allem sehen! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 31 08:54:11
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we ever be tolerant and see the good and beautiful in all! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 27 10:41:10
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir fest und entschlossen sein und einen eisernen Willen haben! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 27 10:40:36
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we be firm and resolute and have an iron will! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 26 20:49:20
Cheav Villa: and they have keep the rule of the Village is safe... I kana also told him that one another foreigner monk already left to the Aural... and he probably walk through the area. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 26 20:47:32
Moritz: Sadhu, Sadhu, Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 26 20:44:17
Cheav Villa: I kana used to talk to the Khmer monk at Wat AngChum who contacted to Akyum with the Police in Korng Pisey District, the monk want to apologize again and again he said he and the Police had no bad will againt Bhante. Because of cannot talk and understand the language...

2020 Mar 26 20:35:58
Cheav Villa: I kana hope that Bhante Johann will be back to Akyum soon. Bhante Johann now might take rest near infront Phnom Srong, where place Bhante had been before. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 26 20:31:00
Cheav Villa: How is Bhante Well being? _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 26 20:25:58
Khemakumara: Upāsakā Moritz

2020 Mar 26 20:21:38
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Mar 26 13:43:15
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 24 17:31:44
Cheav Villa: May all beings be well and Safe. May they be healed.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 24 11:24:10
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 24 04:06:52
Khemakumara: May it be a path- and fruitful uposatha day  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 22 10:32:51
Moritz: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 22 09:32:05
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Mar 22 09:21:39
Mohan Gnanathilake:   Mögen wir furchtlos vor Gefahren stehen und mutig alle Hindernisse überwinden! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 22 09:21:03
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we be fearless in facing dangers and courageously surmount all obstacles! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 22 08:33:26
Moritz: _/\_ Bang Villa

2020 Mar 21 23:08:34
Cheav Villa: May all beings be well and safe. May they be happy. _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Mar 21 23:08:28
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 21 21:33:47
Khemakumara: កតញ្ញូ   kataññū _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 20 20:55:00
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir jemals ruhig, heiter, gelassen und friedlich sein! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 20 20:49:17
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we ever be calm, serene, unruffled and peaceful! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 20 10:38:44
Cheav Villa: May all beings be well and safe. May they be happy. _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Mar 17 11:24:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 17 07:01:04
Johann: And for those celebrating the Sila day today, a blessed undertaking.

2020 Mar 16 08:31:19
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 16 06:12:53
Johann: A Blessed Siladay this day

2020 Mar 15 07:46:18
Johann: Sadhu,sadhu

2020 Mar 14 23:37:16
Mohan Gnanathilake: Das Leben ist durch Unwissenheit, Verlangen und Festhalten bedingt. Das Leben ist wie ein Rad, das sich ohne Anfang umdreht. Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 14 22:32:02
Mohan Gnanathilake: Life is conditioned by ignorance, craving and clinging. Life is like a wheel, turning around without any beginning. Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 13 23:15:35
Cheav Villa: May all be blessed by the Savage Sangha along the way to Akyum Pagoda from tomorrow.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 13 23:11:28
Cheav Villa: I Kana just tries to breath in and out about 30mins.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 13 06:47:28
Johann: Sadhu

2020 Mar 12 22:29:59
Cheav Villa: I kana tried about 30mins before bed  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 12 21:23:01
Johann: Leave form, sound, smell, taste and touch, right here and now.

2020 Mar 12 21:07:20
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 12 14:46:47
Johann: Every time is the best time to leave home, yes.

2020 Mar 12 13:38:39
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Best Time to know the Vipasana course is still Vipasana course, when the real Vipasana has come.  ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 12 12:55:07
Johann: Best to make Vipassana when there is no fear of Samsara... *irony*

2020 Mar 12 12:51:48
Johann: Waht about changing the date to one when there is no traffic because their are dying much more people every day...

2020 Mar 12 12:50:27
Johann: Best time when there is no more sickness and death in the world or? Samsara fans.

2020 Mar 12 12:41:57
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz  :) _/\_

2020 Mar 12 12:40:49
Cheav Villa: I kana heard from Bang Puthy, Bhante Indanano wants to change the schedule for Vipasana because of most afraid of spreading Covid_19. :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 12 12:36:56
Cheav Villa: I kana also dont like to sit as long for the Vipassana Course. Vipasana in any sitting,  walking, standing..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 12 12:31:33
Johann: (Don't tell it further: He is terrible afraid that he possible needs to take part on the Vipassana course at Wat Akyum)

2020 Mar 12 12:28:23
Johann: They hold him in what's app Samsara caught. *bling*

2020 Mar 12 12:25:45
Johann: He is to afraid because people always tell anything further, my person guesses. To much watching Devas  :)

2020 Mar 12 12:23:21
Cheav Villa: I kana had heard of Master Moritz wants to go back soon to enjoy the Samsara  ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_. As I kana know the Samara is everywhere in this worldily.  :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 12 12:14:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 09 20:10:03
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Mar 09 12:35:33
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 09 12:02:48
Johann: Not only, also for heavens, but if well done of course (Uposatha was held even before the Buddha as well, Nyom)

2020 Mar 09 11:33:51
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Uposatha is for magga and phalas only   :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 09 11:31:36
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 09 10:50:08
Johann: A blessed full moon uposatha, maggas and phalas, all.

2020 Mar 08 10:10:28
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Mar 08 08:52:14
Johann: May all observe a blessed full moon Uposatha, those who tend to do it today.

2020 Mar 07 22:47:14
Johann: We includes all wordlings, Nyom. Something that can be changed.

2020 Mar 07 22:45:33
Mohan Gnanathilake: We are susceptible to the worldly conditions (loka-dhamma). Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2020 Mar 06 12:03:17
You Y:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu Bhante.

2020 Mar 06 09:37:33
You Y: Bhante Johann,  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Could you please share me the dhama that I read yesterday?

2020 Mar 05 20:58:15
Moritz: Probably all coming from the messengers (WhatsApp, Telegram), where I just informed a little. :)

2020 Mar 05 20:56:28
Johann: 4 guests already, so nothing to worry, Brah google and his host will follow as long be traceable.

2020 Mar 05 20:52:41
Moritz: Yes, they may come back when the new address is indexed by a search engine.

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Offline Johann

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2020, 03:53:16 PM »
As it just came to mind, that Nyom Moritz once mentioned a web tool "kamboja.js ", althought not even know what it is and it's use, just remembering the meaning of "Kampuchea " (kamma pūjā, (obtained by own) deeds of effort/sacrifices), Atma thought to relink it in this topic so that found again if any need for such.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2020, 03:59:24 PM by Johann »
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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2020, 03:47:37 AM »
The time before travelling was too busy to get much done.
And most time was wasted setting up an e-mail server, which turns out to be the most difficult to maintain by oneself. Mostly just because large e-mail providers like to keep their dominance, and nowadays it is not easy for a small self-maintained e-mail server to get "trusted".
Mail configuration is mostly set up and configured with all settings correct on the new server.

For now, the server is set up to send and receive e-mails from ...@zugangzureinsicht.org (which is totally moved from Greensta to Hetzner for now), maybe the "least important" of the three domains dedicated for the Sangha.
One thing I forgot was the Anumodana mailing list. It is lost now, but could be set up again, with the same "mailman" software, or maybe something similar.

I think it would be good to use the new e-mail server for e-mails from ...@sangham.net and ...@accesstoinsight.eu as well to have everything maintained in one place again. But, as mentioned, the difficulty is in getting the e-mail server "trusted" by the large providers so that it will not land all automatically in spam for recipients using GMail, Outlook, Hotmail, AOL, ... I have read a lot about it and set up everything that should be required. But large providers give no transparency how they come up with their "trust". Reading experiences from others with the same headaches, it seems, things generally get better as soon as there is some e-mail traffic with some "positive engagement", i.e. recipients marking messages as "not spam" (of course they would first need to look in "spam" to find it), maybe even adding to "known contacts" or similar, possibly replying back and forth a few times, etc... Then the mail servers of large e-mail providers with their machine learning algorithms "learn" slowly to trust this new unknown server as not being a spammer.

Having tested the same setup for a different own domain and server, I have had some seemingly good success with getting e-mails from there trusted by GMail at least. So I think, with a small "engagement campaign" here, with some people here helping by marking as "not spam", replying etc., the same success could be achieved for the new server using mails ...@zugangzureinsicht.org, ...@sangham.net etc.

Maybe best to revive the Anumodana mailing list for that as a first step, using the new server, and add recipients known from the Forum who would mark them as "not spam" etc. I would make a new topic for that as soon as having set up the mailing list again and before sending out the first "Anumodana" from there.

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2020, 04:00:24 AM »
Apart from that, I am now going to re-install web server software on the new server now (using nginx instead of apache, which seems better to me). So zugangzureinsicht.org might not be reachable for a short time.

And for finally moving the accesstoinsight.eu and sangham.net websites to the new servers I am going to then also prepare everything already. But the final move should better be made when being more "settled" here and forseeable having time to deal with possible unexpected troubles. (Also, I think the "auth-codes" for moving the domains are probably already expired, and would need to be asked for another time from Greensta. Still time, better to do that when Bang Sophorn is back in Austria.)

If having more similar quiet time like now I think lots of other useful things could be done here. :)

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2020, 05:02:59 AM »
Sadhu, Sadhu but may Nyom focus on arrive and slow down fist.

Email: honestly, if people are wished to be caught in the prisons of industry, then they should so. As my person always says, one has to leave home or palace first to get Dhamma know. No need to join the war or get much in trade.

Atma thinks that if all is nearly an intranet, it's also well.

It's like at the Ashram here. It's no lose (for those on path) that there is just a small path and so it's actually no lose for the Sangha to get cut off.

Good how ever, if Nyom wins some distance to the internet realm and endless tasks fist.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2020, 05:21:08 AM by Johann »
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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2020, 07:06:49 AM »
As for a quite place, sure the Ashram is perfect, maybe 110W Solar panel needed to run a normal laptop long time. Connection is mostly fast.

My person is not sure in how far the knowledge-able Venerables are interested in assistance, quite withdrawn from world and philosophical hypocrisy, but my person has the feeling that Bhante Ariyadhammika is one who can gain certain Vision (has not fallen into certain modern delusions), might have touched the spirit of the Buddhas disciples, and maybe willing to assist for the long term existance of the Savaka Sangha. It's possible good if Nyom ask's personally, direct, for assistance to errect a suiteable dwelling and "social-system" for the Sangha in modern world. Bhante Subhuti Subharo, next to him, but also there Ven. Abbot might be able to grasp the Vision rightly, in accordiance with the Dhamma-Vinaya and it's aim, willing to leave home and stands behind.

If there are ways to come to an account on sanghan.net, Atma actually sees no reason for the need of own email adress. What for? And if there would be need to correspond outside, devoted lay people could deliver messages.

There had been also ideas that a certain sub-forum might function as a income place for mails.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2020, 05:37:39 PM by Johann »
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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2020, 11:25:49 AM »
_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Sadhu. I had similar thoughts, so am glad to hear confirmation of my opinion that approval from Microsoft, Google & Co. is not so much needed.
I just thought, good to preserve whatever possibilities existed on the old servers, including e-mail, which I think is useful to have for the Sangha in its own domain.

So I will try to start to switch e-mail service over to the new server as soon as possible, maybe already this evening. It needs some overlay time, a while where both servers will still work for sending, and to give notice to all e-mail users that server settings will change soon etc., as well as set up some forwarding for the interim time from the old to the new.

Anumodana mailing list is also alomst finished to revive now. A small internal "campaign" of sending and answering / marking as "not spam" of e-mails by active participants in the forum might help a bit without much "fight" or harm, and maybe also useful to transport the message that new server is being used from now on / soon.

As long as being in Phnom Penh this all seems to be a good use of the time.
Now going with Bang Sophorn to meet Pou Vithou for talking about visa matters.

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2020, 08:46:12 PM »
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Quoted from other topic , linking all together, just to bring it back here to the origin.

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Actually, the "merge" would be the last step in the whole server migration .

Just to make a bit clearer what is supposed to happen here:

The forum is now already moved to http://forum.sangham.net (as people will have noticed when visiting here) and hosted on the new server.

The idea of the "merge", as suggested by Bhante, is to make the DokuWiki (currently at http://accesstoinsight.eu , and currently still on the old server) the primary focus of the Sangha's domain here, and move it to http://sangham.net .
The forum will then just have a "secondary" place here, now already on the subdomain forum.sangham.net .

Then there are ideas about connecting the two more: making it possible to start a forum discussion from a DokuWiki page, to archive old forum discussions into the DokuWiki...
But these are for now just ideas, not with a complete concept yet.
The main idea is just to more emphasize the focus of this domain as a working place for puñña and Dhammadana, where discussion should better be more linked to the "place of work"/kammathana maintained in the DokuWiki for the Sangha.

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Then there were also ideas about a Sangham messenger, making it possible to have communications with the same convenience of WhatsApp and Telegram properly within the domain of the Sangha, and also what software to possibly use for that. I think that would surely be possible with the new server. Not sure how quickly to do.

*  As brother Vivek had mentioned some vaguely similar ideas and suggestions , he might be interested, at least technically, as a learner in this "profession", to hear about how it works. Not asking for help (which would not be really possible). Just to inform.

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2020, 08:51:45 PM »
Currently, the next more complicated step still not finished is moving the e-mail server while keeping all the old accounts intact.

It is a bit time-consuming. And a logicistical problem, to keep it running smoothly most of the time, possibly for a short period using both servers.
Probably it would be necessary to set new passwords for all e-mail addresses.

I will try to figure out and send a message to all accounts about coming changes. Might take still a few days to set it all up.

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2020, 08:19:36 PM »
Not something urgent! Just that not getting lost. (hmm... ftp access)

Atma came across that the size of medias upload-able via media manager seems to be limited to 2MB and it might be that it is a php setting according to dokuwiki info: https://www.dokuwiki.org/faq:uploadsize

My person also didn't see the usual delete option in the media manager for existing media files.
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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2020, 07:50:04 AM »
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Now, big file uploads, up to 100MB, should be working.

FTP accounts, I will add soon.

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