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2020 May 30 07:05:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 30 06:51:35
Johann: Those taking on the Uposatha today: may many follow your encouragement when leading after near and those depending on you.

2020 May 29 20:39:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 19:56:20
Johann: What ever sacrificed toward the Sublime Gems, toward liberation, such is condition for no more flowing back into the world. Mudita

2020 May 29 08:40:16
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:34:50
Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

2020 May 29 08:33:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:27:03
Johann: If one would know or remembering the suffering behind pleasing form, sound, smell, taste, touch, one certain would no more desire after it. But because lof lack of remembering and proper attention, beings go after it, take birth, age, get sick, seperated, die, again and again, keeping the flame of k

2020 May 29 08:15:29
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:15:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 07:42:53
Johann: If ones sacrifices, generosity, isn't protected by a good closed tank, less fruits can be expected. And what is the tank made of? Saddha, Pasada, metta, Sila, intention for own and others independency.

2020 May 29 06:36:24
Johann: A blessed Siladay all who are doing it today

2020 May 28 19:24:28
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 28 18:32:00
Moritz: Upgrade to SMF 2.0.17 has been completed. Everything running smooth for everybody?

2020 May 23 06:43:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 22 21:09:34
Johann: May all still continue to spend a blessed New moon Uposatha till break on of a new day (of course good to continue without break). Mudita

2020 May 21 20:16:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 21 19:30:50
Johann: Nothing more a blessing as to do not cling to a specific Nikaya, since one can easy take the opportunity of doing theUposatha often two days a new. May all always make the best of given possibilities.

2020 May 20 21:19:41
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 20 20:44:31
Cheav Villa: May Bhante get well soon.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 20 20:43:13
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 14:55:14
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 12:17:04
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 21:21:28
Johann: Nyom Sophorn

2020 May 17 07:36:11
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 17 07:14:16
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 06:01:03
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 May 16 20:42:01
Johann: Bhante

2020 May 15 20:13:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 15 19:17:25
Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

2020 May 14 09:09:08
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 14 06:17:12
Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 12 19:10:56
Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

2020 May 10 15:27:11
Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

2020 May 10 15:26:00
Johann: "stand", taking, holding a stand makes it possible more understandable and fits better to it.

2020 May 10 15:24:35
Johann: Welcome Depabasadhamma, Atma will open a topic on it.

2020 May 10 15:04:51
Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

2020 May 09 21:15:38
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:48:57
Johann: Apsara in Pali: accharā, translation actually "A Whoo!"

2020 May 09 20:45:38
Johann: "...“Then take joy, Nanda. Take joy! I am your guarantor for getting 500 dove-footed nymphs.”..."

2020 May 09 20:45:17
Johann: "“What do you think, Nanda? Which is lovelier, better looking, more charming: the Sakyan girl, the envy of the countryside, or these 500 dove-footed nymphs?”..."

2020 May 09 20:43:26
Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

2020 May 09 19:24:05
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 09 19:08:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 19:00:58
Johann: When not working he is already used to where his beige light clean cloth, morning, noon, evening and already good organized.

2020 May 09 18:52:05
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 07 15:18:07
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 10:33:24
Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

2020 May 07 10:21:10
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 07 10:19:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 07 06:02:32
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 05:46:38
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
Johann: followed by another overload by huawei-search engines... fixed

2020 May 04 20:31:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

2020 May 03 21:13:46
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 20:32:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 03 12:53:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 May 03 12:07:17
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 26 20:23:57
Cheav Villa: and Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:30
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:25
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 08:18:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 07:18:02
Johann: Ādīnava , អដីនវ, As one of ten perceptions: AN 10.60

2020 Apr 26 07:09:32
Johann: May Dukkha be visible for all, so to stay on the path  that leads beyond and liberation.

2020 Apr 25 16:57:34
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 25 15:54:00
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 23 18:41:59
Johann: Sadhu for care to report and assist

2020 Apr 23 18:39:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana now not get notification.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 23 15:04:07
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 23 13:45:57
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 22 11:17:56
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Apr 22 06:38:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 Apr 22 05:45:37
Khemakumara: karuṇā, corona? which one prefers?   may it a fruit- and pathful Uposatha!

2020 Apr 21 19:53:51
Johann: If Nyom likes to use Atmas tablet and Sim, just pick it up at any time.

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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2018, 08:10:55 AM »
Connection is not sure and the island you take as yours, drifts apart from the lands where the Buddhas teachings florish, have yiu not seen birth, oldage, death and the sickness of dependency!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2018, 08:14:38 AM »
"The is no evil one would not do, for one who speaks a deliberated lie", be quick, many are those follow and have firm faith in what the Buddha taught to avoid! You illusional island trifts away!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2018, 08:17:29 AM »
The family of the Noble Ones is beyond doing anyone a favor, beyond of trade, beyond of corruption for short lasting enjoyment and spinning around in the wheel of brith. aging sickness and death!

Come here and sit down in a human state!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2018, 08:19:38 AM »
Being avoided by those in borderland, it's hard to ever join again in helping to errect a Buddhafield!

Be quick, your island trifts away!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2018, 08:39:06 AM »
It's out of compassion, not a duty, that those who do not come back, give you a chance and stop for a short time to let others join a taste of joy that is beyond any tade, corruption, becoming, aging, sick ness and death.

When the last are gone, when you old illusional island, build on pride falls apart, where could you find firm refuge, where could you even find a places where Buddhafields are errected remembering the use of it right?

Be quick, your merits fade. It's not sure and hard to gain, a relation with the Noble Ones. Don't you see it, drunken in health, youth on life, foolish man. What you thought for real, where has it gone? Where is your fabricated Island now gone in this states of confusion, inbetween.

Don't be neglect, don't play with the Noble Ones!
You may be avoided by those living in borderland, who possible still have certain access.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2018, 08:42:02 AM »
May you have made merits toward the Noble Ones in the past, that this food can be of nurishment now direct in front of yours.

When ever you remember a place you stored some rest of merits, take it, and sit diwn in a human state!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2018, 08:51:22 AM »

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa


Maha-mangala Sutta: Schutz


Ich habe gehört, dass zu einer Zeit der Erhabene sich in Savatthi aufhielt, im Jeta-Hain, Anathapindikas Kloster. Dann näherte sich eine gewisse Devi in der spätesten Stunde der Nacht dem Erhabenen, deren außerordentliches Strahlen die Gesamtheit des Jeta-Hains überstrahlte. Bei der Ankunft, nachdem sie sich vor dem Erhabenen verbeugt hatte, stand sie an einer Seite. Als sie an einer Seite stand, wandte sie sich an ihn mit dem Vers:


Viele Devas und Menschen
machen sich Gedanken über Schutz,
Wohlergehen wünschend.
Sagt also, was ist der höchste Schutz?

[Der Buddha:]
Nicht mit Toren umgehen,
sondern mit den Weisen,
Ehre erweisen jenen, die würdig der Verehrung sind:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Das Leben in einem zivilisierten Land,
Verdienste in der Vergangenheit erwirkt zu haben,
sich in der richtigen Richtung zu bemühen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Breites Wissen, Geschick,
wohlgemeisterte Disziplin,
wohlgesprochene Worte:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Unterstützung seiner Eltern,
Hilfestellung für die Frau und Kinder,
Gewissenhaftigkeit in der Arbeit:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Geben, Leben in Rechtschaffenheit,
Hilfestellung für die Verwandten,
Taten, die schuldlos sind:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Vermeiden, abstehen vom Bösen;
sich Fernhalten von Rauschmitteln,
wachsam über die Qualitäten des Geistes zu sein:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Respekt, Demut,
Bescheidenheit, Dankbarkeit,
das Dhamma zu passenden Gelegenheiten hören:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Geduld, Offenheit,
Besuch von Weisen,
Diskussion des Dhamma zu passenden Gelegenheiten:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Entsagung, Keuschheit,
die Edlen Wahrheiten sehen,
die Loslösung verwirklichen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Ein Geist, der, wenn berührt
von den Wegen der Welt,
bleibt unerschüttert, sorgenlos, staublos, sicher:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Überall unbesiegt,
wenn in dieser Weise handelnd,
wandeln die Leute überall in Wohlergehen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.



Maha-mangala Sutta: Protection

I have heard that at one time the Blessed One was staying in Savatthi at Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. Then a certain deva, in the far extreme of the night, her extreme radiance lighting up the entirety of Jeta's Grove, approached the Blessed One. On approaching, having bowed down to the Blessed One, she stood to one side. As she stood to one side, she addressed him with a verse.

Many devas and human beings
give thought to protection,
desiring well-being.
Tell, then, the highest protection.

The Buddha:
Not consorting with fools,
consorting with the wise,
paying homage to those worthy of homage:
   This is the highest protection.

Living in a civilized land,
having made merit in the past,
directing oneself rightly:
   This is the highest protection.

Broad knowledge, skill,
well-mastered discipline,
well-spoken words:
   This is the highest protection.

Support for one's parents,
assistance to one's wife and children,
consistency in one's work:
   This is the highest protection.

Giving, living in rectitude,
assistance to one's relatives,
deeds that are blameless:
   This is the highest protection.

Avoiding, abstaining from evil;
refraining from intoxicants,
being heedful of the qualities of the mind:
   This is the highest protection.

Respect, humility,
contentment, gratitude,
hearing the Dhamma on timely occasions:
   This is the highest protection.

Patience, compliance,
seeing contemplatives,
discussing the Dhamma on timely occasions:
   This is the highest protection.

Austerity, celibacy,
seeing the Noble Truths,
realizing Unbinding:
   This is the highest protection.

A mind that, when touched
by the ways of the world,
is unshaken, sorrowless, dustless, at rest:
   This is the highest protection.

Everywhere undefeated
when acting in this way,
people go everywhere in well-being:
   This is their highest protection.




Maṃgalasuttaṃ

Evaṃ me sutaṃ: ekaṃ samayaṃ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṃ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme. Atha kho aññatarā devatā abhikkantāya rattiyā abhikkantavaṇṇā kevalakappaṃ jetavanaṃ obhāsetvā yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami, upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṃ abhivādetvā ekamantaṃ aṭṭhāsi, ekamantaṃ ṭhitā kho sā devatā bhagavantaṃ gāthāya ajjhabhāsi.
 
260. Bahu devā manussā ca maṅgalāni acintayuṃ,
Ākaṅkhamānā sotthānaṃ brūhi maṅgala muttamaṃ.
 
261. Asevanā ca bālānaṃ paṇḍitānañca sevanā,
Pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
262. Patirūpadesavāso ca pubbe ca katapuññatā,
Attasammāpaṇidhi ca etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
263. Bāhusaccañca sippañca vinayo ca susikkhito,
Subhāsitā ca yā vācā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
264. Mātāpitū upaṭṭhānaṃ puttadārassa saṅgaho,
Anākulā ca kammantā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
265. Dānañca dhammacariyā ca ñātakānañca saṅgaho,
Anavajjāni kammāni etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
266. Ārati virati pāpā majjapānā ca saññamo,
Appamādo ca dhammesu etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
267. Gāravo ca nivāto ca santuṭṭhi ca kataññutā,
Kālena dhammasavaṇaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
268. Khantī ca sovacassatā samaṇānañca dassanaṃ,
Kālena dhammasākacchā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
269. Tapo ca brahmacariyañca ariyasaccānadassanaṃ,
Nibbānasacchikiriyā ca etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
270. Phuṭṭhassa lokadhammehi cittaṃ yassa na kampati,
Asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
271. Etādisāni katvāna sabbattha maparājitā,
Sabbattha sotthiṃ gacchanti taṃ tesaṃ maṅgalamuttamanti.




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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2018, 09:03:46 AM »
Okasa vandami bhante,

What do you mean by 'human state' and 'be quick'?
Is it about renouncing ?

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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2018, 09:06:14 AM »






Neither ONLY just for the sake of all others nor ONLY for the sake of one self, that one should tend to assist in errecting a Buddhafield!

Only if having left home, have left trade, seeing the danger in all compounded things one is capable to participate in errecting a Buddhafied and also this not for a lasting time.

May there merits left, may they be tracesd, may the love and devotion toward the Noble Ones, the drive gained in the past, the fear to fail and seeing the pain of beings, you are part of it, lead you to take this momant, the chance you have, be enough for reaching a firm stand in the domain of the Buddhas and Arahat beyond world.

"Dhammo have rakkhati dammacāriṁ"

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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2018, 09:10:27 AM »
Leave your house behind, Deva gus , take on face, show and express you human state, you name, you body yiu have been given by you parents, sit down and bow to the Gems, the family you so long seeked.

And if ready let it be known, so that you can listen to the teachings of the Buddha and take them firm in your heart.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2018, 09:14:31 AM »
For the sake of yours and all those equal not secure, be quick, the connection is not lasting, your island drifts away!

Now, even it seems to be your last and needed refuge.
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Vandami. _/\_

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Samacitta Sutta: Minds in Tune

I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. And on that occasion Ven. Sāriputta was staying near Sāvatthī in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother. There Ven. Sāriputta said to the monks, “Friend monks!”

“Yes, friend,” the monks responded to him.

Ven. Sāriputta said, “Friends, I will teach you about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. Listen & pay close attention. I will speak.”

“As you say, friend,” the monks responded to him.

Ven. Sāriputta said, “And which, friends, is the individual interiorly fettered? There is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a returner, one who returns to this state.[1] This is called an individual interiorly fettered, a returner, one who returns to this state.

“And which, friends, is the individual exteriorly fettered? There is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. He enters & remains in a certain awareness-release.[2] On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.[3] This is called an individual exteriorly fettered, a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.

“Further, there is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. He is one who practices for disenchantment toward, dispassion for, and the cessation of sensuality. He is one who practices for disenchantment toward, dispassion for, and the cessation of becomings. He is one who practices for the ending of craving. He is one who practices for the ending of greed. On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a non-returner, one who does not return to this state. This is called an individual exteriorly fettered, a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.”

Then many devas with their minds in tune [samacitta] went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, bowed down to him and stood to one side. As they were standing there, they said to the Blessed One, “Lord, Ven. Sāriputta is teaching the monks in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. The assembly is overjoyed. It would be good, lord, if the Blessed One went to Ven. Sāriputta out of kindness.”[4]

The Blessed One acquiesced through silence. Then—just as a strong man might extend his flexed arm or flex his extended arm—he disappeared from Jeta’s Grove and re-appeared in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, right in front of Ven. Sāriputta. He sat down on a seat laid out. Ven. Sāriputta, bowing down to the Blessed One, sat to one side. As he was sitting there, the Blessed One said to him, “Just now, Sāriputta, many devas with their minds in tune went to me and, on arrival, bowed down to me and stood to one side. As they were standing there, they said to me, ‘Lord, Ven. Sāriputta is teaching the monks in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. The assembly is overjoyed. It would be good, lord, if the Blessed One went to Ven. Sāriputta out of kindness.’
“Those devas—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another. If the thought should occur to you that ‘Those devas must have developed their minds there (in their heaven) so that—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—they can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another,’ it shouldn’t be seen in that way. It was right here[5] that those devas developed their minds so that—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—they can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another.

“Thus, Sāriputta, you should train yourselves: ‘We will be peaceful in our (sense) faculties, peaceful in our minds.’ That’s how you should train yourselves. When you are peaceful in your faculties, peaceful in your minds, [think,] ‘Bodily action will be peaceful, verbal action will be peaceful, mental action will be peaceful, & we will render peaceful service to our fellows in the holy life’: That’s how you should train yourselves.

“Sāriputta, those members of other sects who don’t get to hear this Dhamma discourse are lost.”
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
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Now, as  Nyom gus has actually taken birth in far outer-lands, living among those with grave wrong view and disregard toward the Gems, is the OP proverb true or not?

Who could have you keep away form it? Nobody could do good for you as long as not bond to liberation and clear of binds otherwise. Even if one would tell "be careful, your island is drifting away", one blinded by Mara, how could he listen and look, see?
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