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Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

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Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

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Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
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Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

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Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

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Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

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Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

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2020 May 09 19:00:58
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2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

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Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

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2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
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2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
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2020 May 04 20:31:45
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2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

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2020 May 03 20:32:57
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2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
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2020 May 03 12:53:08
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2020 May 03 12:07:17
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2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
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2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
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2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
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2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

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2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
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2020 Apr 26 07:18:02
Johann: Ādīnava , អដីនវ, As one of ten perceptions: AN 10.60

2020 Apr 26 07:09:32
Johann: May Dukkha be visible for all, so to stay on the path  that leads beyond and liberation.

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2020 Apr 25 15:54:00
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2020 Apr 23 18:41:59
Johann: Sadhu for care to report and assist

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Author Topic: This is a royal road to hell.  (Read 3653 times)

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This is a royal road to hell.
« on: October 05, 2018, 02:34:34 PM »
Quote from: Lowada Sangarava -
A Sinhalese poem of the 15th century
by
Venerable Vidagama Maitreya Mahathera
Translated by: Bhikkhu K. Nanananda
Frivolous talk
which does not conduce to the good
of this world or the next,
which the wise from times past
have abstained from,
is unskilful speech.
Do not indulge in it
even for fun.
It is a royal road to hell.

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2018, 08:54:26 PM »
The speedy way to heaven ⛅ and beyond is said by the Wise to talk about 10 topics:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"There are these ten topics of [proper] conversation. Which ten? Talk on modesty, on contentment, on seclusion, on non-entanglement, on arousing persistence, on virtue, on concentration, on discernment, on release, and on the knowledge & vision of release. These are the ten topics of conversation. If you were to engage repeatedly in these ten topics of conversation, you would outshine even the sun & moon, so mighty, so powerful — to say nothing of the wanderers of other sects."
This post and Content has come to be by Dhamma-Dana and so is given as it       Dhamma-Dana: Johann

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2019, 06:27:43 AM »
* Johann : Haven't seen wanderer/Deva gus around the realms of Devas and Asuras in the Internet. Maybe he has come to see that seldom existence in this realms are used different then to consume old merits off.

Coming across the gift here again, Nyom Cheav Villa , my person wonders whether there are not a lot of verses and proverbs in Khmer on this topic. Maybe she likes to share some and assists in translating them.
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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2019, 09:29:05 AM »
ព្រះករុណា ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

សូត្រអំពីកថាវត្ថុ១០ នេះមានជាភាសាខ្មែរ ។

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Brah Karuna, Brah Ang

there are Suttas in regard of this 10 vatthus (properties) in Khmer language.


* Johann :transl. draft added.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 12:06:06 PM by Johann »

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2019, 10:30:50 AM »
Proverbs, folk-sayings, in regard of abstaining from useless speech, talk of the markets and fish-seller, joking around.
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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2019, 10:56:53 AM »
ព្រះករុណា ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

ដកស្រង់ពី អង្គុត្តរនិកាយ ទសកនិបាត ភាគ៥០ ។

តិរច្ឆានកថា នោះគឺ ÷ និយាយអំពីស្តេច និយាយអំពីចោរ និយាយអំពីអាមាត្រធំ និយាយអំពីសេនា
និយាយអំពីភ័យ និយាយអំពីចម្បាំង និយាយអំពីម្ហូបចំណី និយាយអំពីទឹក និយាយអំពីសំពត់
និយាយអំពីទីដេក និយាយអំពីកម្រងផ្កា និយាយអំពីគ្រឿងក្រអូប និយាយអំពីញាតិ និយាយអំពីយាន
និយាយអំពីស្រុក និយាយអំពីនិគម និយាយអំពីនគរ និយាយអំពីជនបទ និយាយអំពីស្រ្តី និយាយអំពីយោធាក្លៀវក្លា
និយាយអំពីច្រកផ្លូវ និយាយអំពីកំពង់ទឹក និយាយអំពីញាតិដែលចែកឋានទៅ.. និយាយរឿងឥតប្រយោជន៍ផ្សេងៗ។

 ឯ កថាវត្ថុ១០ ដែលគួរសរសើរ ÷

និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីប្រាថ្នាតិច ១
និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីសន្តោស ១
និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីស្ងាត់ ១
និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីមិនច្រឡូកច្រឡំដោយពួកគណៈ ១
និយាយអំពីប្រារព្ធសេចក្តីព្យាយាម ១
និយាយអំពីសីល ១
និយាយអំពីសមាធិ ១
និយាអំពីបញ្ញា ១
និយាយអំពីវិមុត្តិ ១
និយាយអំពីវិមុត្តិតញាណទស្សនៈ ១

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2019, 11:12:58 AM »
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ខ្ញុំកូណា សូមពេលដើម្បីចម្លងសេចក្តីប្រែពីគម្ពីរ ជាភាសាខ្មែរ។


I, Brah Ang, ask for some time to bring up some translations from the Canon in Khmer language.

* Johann : transl. draft added.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 12:22:46 PM by Johann »

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2019, 12:18:23 PM »
ព្រះករុណា ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

ដកស្រង់ពី អង្គុត្តរនិកាយ ទសកនិបាត ភាគ៥០ ។

តិរច្ឆានកថា នោះគឺ ÷ និយាយអំពីស្តេច និយាយអំពីចោរ និយាយអំពីអាមាត្រធំ និយាយអំពីសេនា
និយាយអំពីភ័យ និយាយអំពីចម្បាំង និយាយអំពីម្ហូបចំណី និយាយអំពីទឹក និយាយអំពីសំពត់
និយាយអំពីទីដេក និយាយអំពីកម្រងផ្កា និយាយអំពីគ្រឿងក្រអូប និយាយអំពីញាតិ និយាយអំពីយាន
និយាយអំពីស្រុក និយាយអំពីនិគម និយាយអំពីនគរ និយាយអំពីជនបទ និយាយអំពីស្រ្តី និយាយអំពីយោធាក្លៀវក្លា
និយាយអំពីច្រកផ្លូវ និយាយអំពីកំពង់ទឹក និយាយអំពីញាតិដែលចែកឋានទៅ.. និយាយរឿងឥតប្រយោជន៍ផ្សេងៗ។

 ឯ កថាវត្ថុ១០ ដែលគួរសរសើរ ÷

និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីប្រាថ្នាតិច ១
និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីសន្តោស ១
និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីស្ងាត់ ១
និយាយអំពីសេចក្តីមិនច្រឡូកច្រឡំដោយពួកគណៈ ១
និយាយអំពីប្រារព្ធសេចក្តីព្យាយាម ១
និយាយអំពីសីល ១
និយាយអំពីសមាធិ ១
និយាអំពីបញ្ញា ១
និយាយអំពីវិមុត្តិ ១
និយាយអំពីវិមុត្តិតញាណទស្សនៈ ១

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Sadhu for generosity and engaging in talks on virtue.

Yes,

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Kathavatthu Sutta: Topics of Conversation (1)

I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying in Savatthi at Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. Now at that time a large number of monks, after the meal, on returning from their alms round, had gathered at the meeting hall and were engaged in many kinds of bestial topics of conversation: conversation about kings, robbers, & ministers of state; armies, alarms, & battles; food & drink; clothing, furniture, garlands, & scents; relatives; vehicles; villages, towns, cities, the countryside; women & heroes; the gossip of the street & the well; tales of the dead; tales of diversity, the creation of the world & of the sea; talk of whether things exist or not.

Then the Blessed One, emerging from his seclusion in the late afternoon, went to the meeting hall and, on arrival, sat down on a seat made ready. As he was sitting there, he addressed the monks: "For what topic of conversation are you gathered together here? In the midst of what topic of conversation have you been interrupted?"

"Just now, lord, after the meal, on returning from our alms round, we gathered at the meeting hall and got engaged in many kinds of bestial topics of conversation:
conversation about kings, robbers, & ministers of state;
armies, alarms, & battles; food & drink;
clothing, furniture, garlands, & scents;
relatives;
vehicles;
villages, towns, cities, the countryside;
women & heroes;
the gossip of the street & the well;
tales of the dead;
tales of diversity, the creation of the world & of the sea;
talk of whether things exist or not."

"It isn't right, monks, that sons of good families, on having gone forth out of faith from home to the homeless life, should get engaged in such topics of conversation, i.e., conversation about kings, robbers, & ministers of state... talk of whether things exist or not.

"There are these ten topics of [proper] conversation. Which ten?

Talk on modesty,
on contentment,
on seclusion,
on non-entanglement,
on arousing persistence,
on virtue,
on concentration,
on discernment,
on release,
and on the knowledge & vision of release.

These are the ten topics of conversation. If you were to engage repeatedly in these ten topics of conversation, you would outshine even the sun & moon, so mighty, so powerful — to say nothing of the wanderers of other sects."


And from the secound:

..."Monks, there are these ten grounds for praise. Which ten?

"There is the case where a monk himself is modest and instigates talk on modesty among the monks. The fact that he is modest and instigates talk on modesty among the monks is grounds for praise.

"He himself is contented and instigates talk on contentment among the monks...

"He himself is secluded and instigates talk on seclusion among the monks...

"He himself is non-entangled and instigates talk on non-entanglement among the monks...

"He himself has his persistence aroused and instigates talk on arousing persistence among the monks...

"He himself is consummate in virtue and instigates talk on being consummate in virtue among the monks...

"He himself is consummate in concentration and instigates talk on being consummate in concentration among the monks...

"He himself is consummate in discernment and instigates talk on being consummate in discernment among the monks...

"He himself is consummate in release and instigates talk on being consummate in release among the monks...

"He himself is consummate in knowledge & vision of release and instigates talk on being consummate in knowledge & vision of release among the monks. The fact that he is consummate in knowledge & vision of release and instigates talk on being consummate in knowledge & vision of release among the monks is grounds for praise.

"These are the ten grounds for praise."
Quote from: ??

...These are the ten grounds for praise!

As draft also in Khmer:

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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2019, 12:25:56 PM »
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ខ្ញុំកូណា សូមពេលដើម្បីចម្លងសេចក្តីប្រែពីគម្ពីរ ជាភាសាខ្មែរ។


I, Brah Ang, ask for some time to bring up some translations from the Canon in Khmer language.

* Johann : transl. draft added.

No issue at all, how ever inspired. Atma thought lesser on Suttas but on poems, proverbs and folk-sayings. Tipitaka isn't that difficult, yet sometimes other sayings are easier to access for one not so familar.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2019, 02:19:49 PM »
ខ្ញុំកូណាបានរកឃើញសុភាសិតខ្មែរខ្លះៗ ដែលមានប្រជាប្រិយ ទាក់ទងនឹងការនិយាយ ដូចជា ៖

I, Brah Ang, have found some Khmer-proverbs which are popular in relation with speech, saying:

១. អណ្តាតជាអាទិកន្លង បានសុខទុក្ខផង ពីព្រោះអណ្តាត ។
1. The tongue is the source of overstepping; having happiness or suffering, as well, is because of the tongue.
២.​ មាត់មានគម្រប ដបមានឆ្នុក ។
2. The opening/mouth has a cover, a bottle a stopper.
៣. មនុស្សគេយកសំដី ដំរីគេយកភ្លុក ។
3. Humans lifting up words, elephants (great beings) tusks. (word play? ដំរីភ្លុក = person responsible for funeral/cremation)
៤. រនាបបាក់យករនាបជួស សម្តីហួសរកអ្វីជួសគ្មាន ។
4. Trellis broken, lift trellis to renew, sayings beyond repairing do not exist.
៥. បង្វិលអណ្តាតដប់ជុំសិន សឹមនិយាយ ។
5. To turn the tongue 10 tims around fist, and then speak.
៦. សម្តីជាឯក លេខជាទោ ។
6. Words are superior, numbers are secondary.
៧. នៅម្នាក់ឯងអោយប្រយ័ត្នគំនិត នៅជាមួយញាតិមិត្តអោយប្រយ័ត្នសំដី ។
Being alone be carefull on thoughts, being together with family, friend, be carefull on speech. 
៨. ដើរអោយមានបី ស្រដីអោយមានបួន ។
8. Walking is giving three (kindness? word-play?), speech gives one four? (made talking about the 3 bodily conducts, and four verbal)
៩. កំភ្លាញស្លាប់ព្រោះមាត់ ។
9. (certain) Fish dies because of the mouth.

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2019, 02:37:11 PM »
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ខ្ញុំកូណា សូមពេលដើម្បីចម្លងសេចក្តីប្រែពីគម្ពីរ ជាភាសាខ្មែរ។


I, Brah Ang, ask for some time to bring up some translations from the Canon in Khmer language.

* Johann : transl. draft added.

No issue at all, how ever inspired. Atma thought lesser on Suttas but on poems, proverbs and folk-sayings. Tipitaka isn't that difficult, yet sometimes other sayings are easier to access for one not so familar.

កូណាព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

សុភាសិតខ្មែរខាងលើ ប្រហែលជានឹងមានប្រយោជន៍ ដល់ប្រធានបទខ្លះៗ ។

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kuna, Brah Ang,

maybe the Khmer-proverbs above give certain heedfullness toward the essential.
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Sadhu, Sadhu, for sharing. Atma will try to translate them.
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Those folk-sayings are not so easy to translate as very figural and requiring to know also certain ways. Good if each would be explained. There might be also certain word-plays behind.

កំភ្លាញ, for example, seems to be a kind of fish with long mouth, meaning of "long mouth" is also thinking deeply, speaking broad.

Maybe this fish? But there are also some without teeth, similar.

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កូណា ព្រះអង្គ  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

ត្រីកំភ្លាញ ( This fish is called Moonlight Gourami )
ជា​ប្រភេទ​ត្រី​រស់​នៅតាម​បឹងបួរ​មួយ​ប្រភេទ ដែលមាន​រាង​សំប៉ែត និង​មាន​ពុកមាត់​វែងៗ​។
នៅក្នុង​សភាព​ធម្មជាតិ​របស់​ត្រី​កំភ្លាញ គឺជា​ប្រភេទ​ត្រី ចូលចិត្ត​ប្រលែង​លេង​ជាមួយ​ទឹក ដែលជា​ទូទៅ គេ​តែង​និយាយថា​«​ត្រី​មាត់​» ឬ​«​ត្រី​ផុស​»​ជាដើម​ព្រោះតែ​បែបនេះ អ្នកនេសាទ អាចនេសាទ​ដោយ​មធ្យោបាយ​ផ្សេងៗ ដើម្បី​ចាប់​ត្រី​នេះ នៅក្នុង​ទឹក​បឹង ត្រពាំង ហើយ​គេ​ក៏​អាច​ដឹងបាន​ថា កន្លែង​ណា​សម្បូរ​ទៅដោយ​ត្រី​កំភ្លាញ​រស់នៅ​  ។ ត្រីកំភ្លាញក៏ងាប់អសារបង់ ។

ចាស់បូរាណបានប្រៀបធៀប ទៅនឹងមនុស្សខ្លះតែងតែវិនាសដោយសារសម្តីនិយាយឥតប្រយោជន៍របស់ខ្លួន ។

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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2019, 05:22:32 PM »
That's more understandable: "The "enjoying fish" is caught because of his mouth". Favorite of village-children with their simple bamboo fishing-rod, supplying the families meal.

Likewise those of lossy talk are easy food for any assembling to nurish on.

* Johann : Western know this fish only as expensive ornamental fish from pet shops.
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