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2024 Mar 18 21:42:50
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 18 19:43:59
Dhammañāṇa: Mudita, Nyom.

2024 Mar 18 19:36:35
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Undertaking this Sila day at my best.

2024 Mar 18 06:17:10
Dhammañāṇa: Those who undertake the Sila day today: may it be of much metta.

2024 Mar 18 02:16:41
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 17 21:09:31
អរិយវង្ស: 🚬🚬🚬

2024 Mar 17 06:30:53
Dhammañāṇa: Metta-full Sila day, those after it today.

2024 Mar 17 00:02:34
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 11 09:16:04
Dhammañāṇa: Once totally caught by google, AI and machines, every door has been closed for long, long term.

2024 Mar 11 09:14:04
Dhammañāṇa: People at large just wait that another would do his/her duty. Once a slight door to run back, they are gone. By going again just for debts, the wheel of running away turns on.

2024 Mar 10 18:59:10
Dhammañāṇa: Less are those who don't use the higher Dhamma not for defilement-defence, less those who don't throw the basics away and turn back to sensuality "with ease".

2024 Mar 10 06:51:11
Dhammañāṇa: A auspicious new-moon Uposatha for those observing it today.

2024 Mar 09 06:34:39
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed New-moon Uposatha, and birth reminder day of a monarchy of wonders.

2024 Mar 08 21:39:54
Dhammañāṇa: The best way to keep an Ashram silent is to put always duties and Sila high. If wishing it populated, put meditation (eating) on the first place.

2024 Mar 03 21:27:27
Dhammañāṇa: May those undertaking the Sila day today, spend it off in best ways, similar those who go after the days purpose tomorrow.

2024 Feb 25 22:10:33
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 24 06:42:35
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Māgha Pūjā and Full moon Uposatha with much reason for good recallings of goodness.

2024 Feb 24 01:50:55
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 23 06:39:57
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Feb 23 00:19:58
blazer: Taken flu again... at least leg pain has been better managed since many weeks and it's the greatest benefit. Hope Bhante Dhammañāṇa is fine  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 01:06:43
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 00:02:37
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 17 18:47:31
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of todays Sila-day.

2024 Feb 17 18:46:59
Dhammañāṇa: Chau Marco, chau...

2024 Feb 16 23:32:59
blazer: Just ended important burocratic and medical stuff. I will check for a flight for Cambodia soon  _/\_

2024 Feb 09 16:08:32
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 12:17:31
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 06:42:17
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed New moon Uposatha and last day of the Chinese year of the rabbit, entering the Year of the Naga wisely.

2024 Feb 02 21:17:28
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 02 19:53:28
Dhammañāṇa: May all have the possibility to spend a pleasing rest of Sila day, having given goodness and spend a faultless day.

2024 Jan 26 14:40:25
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 25 10:02:46
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Full moon Uposatha.

2024 Jan 11 06:37:21
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 07 06:31:20
Dhammañāṇa: May many, by skilful deeds,  go for real and lasting independence today

2024 Jan 06 18:00:36
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 16:57:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 12:33:08
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila-day, full of metta in thoughts, speech and deeds.

2023 Dec 30 20:21:07
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 27 23:18:38
Dhammañāṇa: May the rest of a bright full moon Uposatha serve many as a blessed day of good deeds.

2023 Dec 26 23:12:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 24 16:52:50
Dhammañāṇa: May all who celebrated the birth of their prophet, declaring them his ideas of reaching the Brahma realm, spend peaceful days with family and reflect the goodness near around them, virtuous, generously.

2023 Dec 20 21:36:37
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 20 06:54:09
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by conducting in peacefull manners.

2023 Dec 12 23:45:24
blazer:  _/\_

2023 Dec 12 20:34:26
Dhammañāṇa: choice, yes  :)

2023 Dec 12 13:23:35
blazer: If meaning freedom of choice i understand and agree

2023 Dec 12 12:48:42
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 12 06:13:23
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a great New Moon Uposatha, following the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Dec 10 12:51:16
Dhammañāṇa: The more freedom of joice, the more troubled in regard of what's right, what's wrong. My person does not say that people at large are prepared for freedom of joice even a little.

2023 Dec 10 10:59:42
blazer: Hope they eat more mindfully than how they talk. It is clear for the gross food, we had more than a talk about this topic. I have put so much effort in mindful eating at the temple, but when i was back i wanted more refined food. I was used to get a choice of more than 10 dishes every day

2023 Dec 10 06:57:44
Dhammañāṇa: A person eating on unskilled thoughts will last defiled, Nyom. Gross food does nothing for purification at all.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:58
blazer: I've had a couple of not nice experiences with monks that were not so pure in my opinion. They surely eat far better than me at temple.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:41
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 09 11:38:36
Dhammañāṇa: Spiritual prostitution, just another way of livelihood.

2023 Dec 05 20:59:38
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 27 14:47:22
អរិយវង្ស:   _/\_ _/\__/\_

2023 Nov 27 05:41:32
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Anapanasati- Fullmoon and reflect the goodness of Ven Sāriputta as well today.

2023 Nov 20 19:18:13
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 20 18:20:15
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 20 02:48:24
Moritz: Hello _/\_ Still possible to join: An-other Journey into the East 2023/24

2023 Nov 18 13:55:11
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 12 01:09:01
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2023 Nov 12 00:45:21
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 19:42:10
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 07:17:02
Dhammañāṇa: សិលា​នាំ​ទៅ​រក​ឯករាជ្យ​នៃ​ជាតិ! សូមឱ្យមនុស្សជាច្រើនប្រារព្ធទិវាឯករាជ្យ(ពី)ជាតិ។

2023 Nov 09 07:06:56
Dhammañāṇa: Sila leads to independence of Jati! May many observe a conductive Independence day.

2023 Nov 07 00:54:02
Dhammañāṇa: Nyoum

2023 Nov 07 00:39:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 15:47:51
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 12:21:27
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila observation day today.

2023 Oct 30 15:17:36
Dhammañāṇa: It's common in to give up that what's given to do assist me toward release, common that seeking security in what binds.

2023 Oct 30 13:22:27
អរិយវង្ស: ព្រះអង្គ :) កូណាលុប delta chat ហើយ :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 23 18:56:09
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 22 20:36:01
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of this Sila-day.

2023 Oct 19 20:31:12
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom Sreyneang

2023 Oct 15 07:07:01
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 14 06:53:21
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a New moon Uposatha based on goodwill for all, find seclusion in the middle of family duties.

2023 Sep 29 07:35:30
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:23:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:03:11
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed full moon Uposatha and begin of the ancestor weeks by lived metta and virtue: lived gratitude toward all being, toward one self.

2023 Sep 22 22:07:43
Dhammañāṇa: If no rush turn toward reducing sensuality and make Silas the top of priority, it's to fear that an Atomic conflic will be chosen soon, in the battle of control of the "drugs".

2023 Sep 22 14:59:39
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 22 06:35:51
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Uposatha Observance on this Sila-day, by conducting similar the Arahats.

2023 Sep 16 19:29:27
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 16 19:29:13
blazer: Hello everyone! I've just come back home. I had a long trip and no sleep for more than 30 hours, but currently feel quite good. I've had a good experience, i'm happy. I've found out much inspiration and many ideas about the training and the holy life. I'll recollect and write about them as soon as i've taken some rest. Hope to find you all well and in good health  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 15 05:25:24
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 14 21:09:49
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of New moon Uposatha today (later as no connection before).

2023 Sep 10 01:55:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Sep 09 18:52:54
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 09 18:52:28
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 08 06:19:20
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by maintaining goodwill toward all, not only by deeds and speech, but with nine factors, incl. a mind full of metta.

2023 Sep 01 10:54:43
អរិយវង្ស: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 01 09:21:09
Dhammañāṇa:  “This verse was stated by earlier worthy ones, fully self-awakened:    Freedom from disease: the foremost good fortune. Unbinding: the foremost ease. The eightfold: the foremost of paths going to the Deathless, Secure.

2023 Sep 01 09:19:23
Dhammañāṇa: 'Ārogyaparamā lābhā nibbānaṃ paramaṃ sukhaṃ, Aṭṭhaṅgiko ca maggānaṃ khemaṃ amatagāmina'nti.   អារោគ្យបរមា លាភា និព្ពានំ បរមំ សុខំ អដ្ថងិកោ ច មគ្គានំ ខេមំ អមតគាមិន នតិ។  លាភទាំងឡាយ មានការមិនមានរោគ ដ៏ប្រសើរបំផុត ព្រះនិព្វាន ជាសុខដ៏ឧត្តម មគ្គប្រកបដោយអង្គ៨ ដ៏ក្សេមក្សាន្តជាងមគ្គទាំងឡាយ សម្រាប់ដំណើរ ទៅកាន់​ព្រះនិព្វាន ឈ្មោះអមតៈ។

2023 Aug 31 06:30:11
អរិយវង្ស: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 31 06:08:15
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Fullmoon Uposatha, following the Arahats conducts.

2023 Aug 30 20:19:25
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2023 Aug 30 18:39:38
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 19:56:43
Dhammañāṇa: Sadhu, Sadhu and mudita

2023 Aug 24 19:45:08
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Offline Dhammañāṇa

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sangham.net email and accessibility
« on: May 14, 2020, 07:16:03 AM »
My person thought to dedicate this topic for best use of given email possibility, to make aware of possible short-cuts and to give ideas in easier attaining.

Some points to start:

  • Certain email-provider block the emails of sangham.net, obiviously in their tendency to cut off existance of privat email-server. European mail provider are here formost.
  • Installation on certain devices, without much technical knowledge is for the m8st hard to do. Multiling doku and info, step by step guides needed.
  • It would be great if by obtaining the Sanghamitta-Membership automatical an email account would be greated.
  • Since more and more usual, not sure how it would be possible to use telefon number for registration, accounts on sangham and email.
  • Generally things aren't very userfriendly at least different then common usual use. Maybe there are improvements possible.
  • Extended docu for email-admin needed, in the case it's thought to hand administration over to the members of the Sangha, or at least that they are able to manage things in cases by themselves.


It's certain a big different to be given those possibilities, dedicated for liberation, dedicated toward the Gems, far up from trade and bonds in the world, debts which holdback, seen or unseen.

Therefore, efforts in giving actually freedom are of such huge benefits, yet of course many wouln't couldn't make use of such, "naturally".
« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 07:24:45 AM by Johann »
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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2020, 01:28:50 PM »
  • Certain email-provider block the emails of sangham.net, obiviously in their tendency to cut off existance of privat email-server. European mail provider are here formost.
The issue with t-online.de was that the domain's WHOIS data is not public (who is the owner and the administrator of the domain, with full contact address - can be looked up here for example, but only registrar company is shown, the rest "redacted for privacy").
T-Online.de for example does not accept e-mails from domains without full public WHOIS records.

I think when I registered the domains I was asked whether to keep it private or not, and I chose to keep it private (because the WHOIS data had been private before, with Greensta).


I have written an email to the domain registrar and server provider company Hetzner, asking how to change it to make it public. Of course I would ask domain owner/"holder" (as it is called in technical WHOIS jargon) Sophorn for permission first before actually asking to change it, because her full address (and mine, listed as "Admin-C") would then be shown publicly.

Quote from: e-mail to domain provider
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
 
ich habe die Domains sangham.net, accesstoinsight.eu und zugangzureinsicht.org bei Ihnen registriert.
Soweit ich mich erinnere, wurde bei der Registrierung die Option von "Domain privacy" oder aehnlich lautend angeboten, welche ich wohl aktiviert habe, d.h. die Whois-Daten zu Holder, Admin-C etc. sind nicht oeffentlich einsehbar.
 
Offenbar bereitet das Probleme beim E-Mail verschicken, da manche Provider (T-Online.de z.B.) keine Mails von anonymisierten Domains akzeptieren.
 
Ist es moeglich, diese "Domain privacy", oder wie immer es genannt wird, wieder zu deaktivieren und die Whois-Daten oeffentlich zu machen? Wenn ja, wie? Ich habe dazu im Hetzner Robot keine Optionen und Einstellungsmoeglichkeiten gefunden und auch im Wiki nichts dazu.
 
Dies ist vorerst bloss eine Frage. Ich wuerde noch das Okay vom Holder einholen wollen, bevor die Daten oeffentlich gemacht werden.
 
Vielen Dank im Voraus fuer Ihre Hilfe.
 
Mit freundlichen Gruessen

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2020, 02:35:16 PM »
Sadhu, Sadhu, and good to add the contact of admin, Nyom Moritz , since it's right that it is the costom of "highwaymen " to hide, and in that far understandable and praiseworthy if one makes ones responsibility for good deeds public, nothing to shame for or fear.

Nevertheless, good to take care that there is no confusion on public: While the undertaker does not make his undertaking, hidden, privat, the undertaking itself isn't a public but to be seen as a open family/private one, so the mailserver, opening no rights and maintains full "home-right", no public post or telecom service but privat message delivering, based on Dhamma Vinaya within the out of common society Buddhaparisa.

As Atma remembers, at times of Greensta, Nyom Sophorn didn't hide as it would had limited the possibilities, and the contact of the owner was as well public and not hidden, so it's just a continue of before.

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2020, 04:06:03 PM »
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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2020, 04:48:05 PM »
Sadhu! I will ask to change it when getting a reply.

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 08:56:45 PM »
Disappointingly, Hetzner does not even offer the option of public WHOIS records, as I learnt from email correspondence.

Another possibility to satisfy t-online.de would be to have a public imprint on sangham.net declaring who is owning/running it. That seems to be a good idea in general. Not sure about the exact formal criteria now about what information needs to be in there. I will try to find out.

But public WHOIS might be good to have in addition. Never sure what kinds of criteria other email providers might apply to decide which domains to allow or not. This could be achieved by transferring the domains to a different registrar again, one who allows for public WHOIS. Servers could stay the same even if the domain registration is managed through a different company.


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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2020, 09:04:27 PM »
Thinking: Good to make a nice and informative (e)mail.sangham.net page, incl. an impressum page anyway, if technical possible, incl. support links, register info and what it is about (english, khmer, german).

Can the html-page be changed, incl "just" the register formular?

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2020, 09:27:42 PM »
Thinking: Good to make a nice and informative (e)mail.sangham.net page, incl. an impressum page anyway, if technical possible, incl. support links, register info and what it is about (english, khmer, german).

Can the html-page be changed, incl "just" the register formular?

I don't know which html page is meant and what kind of register formular.

Currently, there is a redirect from mail.sangham.net to mail.sangham.net/webmail

The HTML of mail.sangham.net/webmail can surely be changed. But I am not yet familiar with it. For now it is just the standard look of the webmail software "RoundCube".

One could add some informative page on the start page of mail.sangham.net, including an imprint, instead of just redirecting to /webmail.

An imprint on sangham.net (DokuWiki) would probably be enough to satisfy t-online, just for a start, according to what they wrote. But of course it is good to make everything as informative as possible.

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2020, 12:02:03 AM »
Vielleicht (?)

Impressum (freiwillig, nicht Impressumspflicht unterliegend):

Die nichtkommerziellen, nicht gewerblich und zu keiner Art für gewöhnlichem weltlichem Gewinn aller Arten, der Sangha der acht Richtungen, und Nachfolgern gewidmete, private, jedoch öffentlich zugängliche Familien- und Freudeseiten, deren Dienste, Angebote und Darbietungen, für sinngemäße Nutzung, unter der Domain sangham.net werden von folgenden Personen unterhalten, bereitgestellt und für andere zur Verfügung gestellt:

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Domaininhaber: Frau Sophorn..., Adresse
Kontakt: email

Servicebereitsteller: Herr Moritz..., Adresse
Kontakt: email

In Verbindung stehende Domains: accesstoinsight.eu & zugangzureinsicht.org

(Linksfuß) Allgemeine Info, Webseite: sangham.net, Forum: forum.sangham.net, Emailportal mail.sangham.net.
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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2020, 08:54:43 PM »
Vielleicht (?)

Impressum (freiwillig, nicht Impressumspflicht unterliegend):

Die nichtkommerziellen, nicht gewerblich und zu keiner Art für gewöhnlichem weltlichem Gewinn aller Arten, der Sangha der acht Richtungen, und Nachfolgern gewidmete, private, jedoch öffentlich zugängliche Familien- und Freudeseiten, deren Dienste, Angebote und Darbietungen, für sinngemäße Nutzung, unter der Domain sangham.net werden von folgenden Personen unterhalten, bereitgestellt und für andere zur Verfügung gestellt:

Anbieter:

Domaininhaber: Frau Sophorn..., Adresse
Kontakt: email

Servicebereitsteller: Herr Moritz..., Adresse
Kontakt: email

In Verbindung stehende Domains: accesstoinsight.eu & zugangzureinsicht.org

(Linksfuß) Allgemeine Info, Webseite: sangham.net, Forum: forum.sangham.net, Emailportal mail.sangham.net.


Die Seiten en:imprint und de:imprint im DokuWiki sind jetzt angelegt.

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2020, 07:13:37 PM »
Not getting any feedbacks on any email since longer, this might be interesting if someone wishes to render accessibility:

Quote from: error feedack via email
host mail.xxx[yyy] said: 550-SPF:
    2a01:4f8:c17:798c::1 is not allowed to send mail from sangham.net:
    550-Please see
    http://www.open-spf.org/Why?id=samana.johann%40sangham.net&ip=2a01%3a4f8%3ac17%3a798c%3a%3a1&receiver=web0100.zxcs.nl
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    550 : Reason: mechanism (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Sure, my person would take on a contract of policy for sending...
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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2020, 11:17:53 PM »
It seems there was a misconfiguration of DNS records in case IPv6 protocol is used for sending mail instead of old IPv4. I apologize.
I hope this was the issue and it is fixed now. Could Bhante verify by trying again to send the mail to this address where it failed?

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2020, 12:35:56 AM »
Repeated sending caused no error notification email, at least not quickly.
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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2020, 09:32:17 PM »
* Johann Atma could not reach out for any request on the apps forum as register verification mails would not arrive at Atma email account to get access.

It seems that the registration e-mail is rejected from the sangham mail server for similar reasons that sangham mail was rejected from another server before, when sending via IPv6.

IPv6 is usually only used between mail servers if both support the protocol. If either of them cannot use IPv6, they will use IPv4 (if both have IPv4 addresses).

Some checks are done by the sangham mail server to prove the incoming mail is authentic. But the sending server has not set up its authenticity proof mechanisms right for the case of sending via IPv6. So the check fails and the mail is rejected.

So this would actually count as a configuration problem of the sending mail server here (as it was before a configuration problem of the sangham mail server when sending in this case ).

The sangham server is simply configured to reject such incoming mail which cannot be properly verified as authentic by these standard mechanisms. This common practice seems necessary to avoid greater floods of spam.

IPv6, even though many years old, is still not very commonly used today, even though its use is increasing. Many servers and mail systems in the world are still not set up correctly (just like sangham.net was not set up correctly until few days ago) to use it. So this problem could happen more often unknowingly.


There are three general solutions I am thinking of now:

1. Disable IPv6 completely on the Sangham mail server, so that all mail could only be sent and received via IPv4. Most e-mail servers have IPv4 addresses and can send and receive via IPv4. It would be very rare still to find an IPv6 only mail server in common use.
They would then not try and fail via IPv6 to send mail to sangham.net, and be rejected when not authenticated correctly.

2. Disable certain authenticity verification checks in case of incoming mail using IPv6. But this would probably invite a lot of spam.

3. Just disable these authenticity checks in some cases, for some known incoming addresses, like the case just noticed here. But it would be difficult to notice such cases usually and all put them on an "allowed" list.


I think 1. would be the easiest and most safe to do.

I will try to do it soon and hope it will not disrupt e-mail service.

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Re: sangham.net email and accessibility
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2020, 04:24:01 AM »
After thinking and reading a bit more around and about it it seems it is not a good idea to disable IPv6, thinking about future while IPv6 becomes more common.
And it is not a configuration problem of sangham.net but of the sender.

I have found a way to whitelist certain domains and IPs, ignoring wrong SPF records for them and not rejecting their mail for it. So I have whitelisted the e-mail relay lists.codespeak.net, which is used for registration at the DeltaChat support forum.

Registration e-mails from there now arrive.

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