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Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:52:47 PM »

Like always, such a topic has been put from public... No Anumodana aside strategy and politic of the maintainer wished, and merits and matters of truth robbed.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: February 12, 2016, 12:07:23 AM »

And encouragement form a person who tells, that censuring, as a approach called often compassion, but is simply a lack of faith, not to talk about discernment, in regard of the three Gems, here:

Hello My Friends,

I've seen an earlier thread about Buddhism and mental illness on this forum, and I really wish I could have contributed to it, but it's now a locked thread.

At any rate, I was diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia two years ago and have recovered from the illness very well, and this is a great testimony to Buddhist Practice- because the practice has helped me so much in my recovery.
In fact, mindfulness training was taught at the psychiatric hospital I was in.

I've sometimes been discouraged because some monks wouldn't allow me to study with them because I take medications for a mental illness: But I always remind those monks who discriminate against me:
Lord Gotama once taught Dhamma to a murderer named Angulimala who eventually became enlightened.
We're talking about a man who murdered almost 1,000 people- and some of today's monks are afraid to teach me!

I wish all monks were like the Lord Gotama, who taught Dhamma to the outcasts and the criminals.

Not all monks live up to Gotama's standards, unfortunately.

At any rate, if anyone else on the forums is suffering from a mental illness: You're not alone, and you can recover fully like I've had.
Don't be afraid to ask for help.

Blessings and Metta,

CC


And here a additional invitation to similar reason for mudita: Ordination of a Samanera , since there are still places, where faith in the Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha wins against the ways of modernity and believing in on outwardly medintation (giving medicine). Where is there the refuge? In what the Buddha not taught that it leads to an end of suffering and delusion?

Since two days, the former "total crazy and Paranoid Schizophrenia", now monk, has attracted a group of about ten kids, who would have come before every day to play and make nonsense every afternoon, including launch firework in the Monastery, to chant and worship the Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha in the evening with the Monks. Some of the "bad" children even have eager interest to ordinate by themselves.

Mudita
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: February 05, 2016, 06:59:58 PM »

Quote from: Mr. John Brown, on BuddhismSE
I have psychosis. I have no ability to understand reality from birth can meditation give me the ability or i will never be able to end my mental suffering do you know how can i end my pain ,fear and get peace , happiness.

In Respect of the Triple Gems, Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha, in Respect of the Elders of the community _/\_ , my person tries to answer this question. Please, may all knowledgeable Venerables and Dhammika, out of compassion, correct my person, if something is not correct and fill also graps, if something is missing.


Migrated from here

Mr. John Brown, if it is really the case that you can not understand reality (aside of the fact that the people who told that, themselves most likely do not really understand reality), why than do you know that you have (1.) psychosis and second believe or believe that you need to believe that you "have no ability to understand reality". Even it it would be the case to know that one is not able of wrong, that would be wisdom for this extend. So Atma would say, that it would be good to listen and read good dhamma talks, develop generosity and virtue as much and earnest as possible and for the first step, leave formal meditation aside, but observe your mind while doing and train the basics. Once you have gained certain right view, and have developed the other factors of the path, such as the path elements of meditation will develop out of its reason. Aside of some other external conditions like "paccantaro – living on a place where Buddha Sasana does not flourish" and "micchaditthi – born/associate among people with wrong view", only being mental "vitalingo--persons with congenital, defects such as idiocy, etc." are unable to develop the path in the present existence. Since it does not seem that you have idiocy , its good for the moha-carita person (a person with a deluded character) to associate much with wise people. Even if there would be the case that one is not able to progress, such association is supportive for later existences. To know who is wise and speaks Dhamma, it is good to get the good Dhamma known while train generosity and giving next to sila (precepts).

What is real for you? And don't say there is nothing. Just look and tell what seems to be real for you.

Quote from: Answer by The Void on Buddhism SE
The only way to end your suffering is to accept the challenge that you created before birth. You have to realize this suffering is a test you gave yourself before your life started.Endure to the end with happiness and show the world nothing can break your spirit. If you can show humbleness and love towards all while suffering this life might be your last trial of suffering or you can choose to rebirth again and help change the perspective of life to many.Once you relize this you will no longer know your suffering.

Quote from: Discussion
Gottfried Helms (-1) It is very dangerous to propose reasons for someone who has a diagnosis like "psychose". Everything might trigger panic, guilt, horror and whatever - not knowing the real person you cannot know which advice creates harmony & understanding and which creates catastrophes (for instance "that you created before birth" ). So it is a very common rule in the internet to not to try to involve into explanation of disease-history/-reason/-therapy if psychosis or the like is involved.

The Void @Gottfried Helms- This is the Buddhism beta EVERYTHING can and WILL be explained at best from me if asked. Especially the mentally ill. My response only lets him know his voice can still be heard and he is not alone in this world.

Samana Johann mental -1 for both, Mr. The Void and Upasaka @GottfriedHelms. The Voids approach leads just to the fact that one is wasting and consume his old merits and by deny that good deed bring fruits and that right effort would make a change. Gottfieds approach says to deny evil fruits and fear of it, which leads also to action-lessness. The Buddhas approach is to accept facts and that they have a reason, that does not mean to interpret that one is inherent bad or good, and stick to remorse, but use it as skillful reason and force to stick to the good side. So its not wrong to see the lash. And the "your voice will be heard, you are not alone" approach just nourishes the believe that others are needed to help. Actually one is alone and needs to put effort into it to change it, which does not mean to avoid to seek for good advice. But even such is ones own action. As you can see, Mr. John Brown is not in the situation that he does not and it would be not good to feed such desires like to seek for recognition of "I am poor" "I am this..." "I am that...". Things have conditions, & its pretty good to know them & to know that nothing is lasting and changeable by r. and w. effort.

The Void @Samana Johann-"your voice will be heard, you are not alone" I was referring to the purpose of this site.We are all here to receive insight and give insight just as you are.When Mr. John Brown Accepts his condition he can therefore treat his condition, if he cannot treat his condition he can endure with his condition in a positive outlook.Wasting would be to dwell and have self pity because of his condition.A life is a chance to transform,Change, from the old ego into a higher self.

Samana Johann But your answer says waste your time, your life and simply enjoy it. It does not say to put an effort and not where it would be of positive use. And it would be wrong to accept once inwardly conditions, even modesty is a virtue, it is not meant to be a modesty with what ever qualities the mind has. To assume that one can not but an effective effort and then telling just rest with your case, is not the share of insight, but of assuming at 1. and at 2. place. And there are no teachings to seek for a higher self evident in the Dhamma, but to render the sense of self that it is conductive to libar

The Void17:37 higherself =spirt , the true self

Samana Johann The Buddha and his Dhamma do not teach a true self, actually it teaches not any kind of self, even not not-self. Such are obstacles on the way to liberation and release of suffering and no question on the path, Mr. The Void.