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Title: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 24, 2018, 10:11:47 PM
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Dhamma Wheel

A Buddhist discussion forum on the Dhamma of the Theravada

Dhamma Wheel is a Buddhist online forum, specializing in the early teachings of Buddhism, i.e., Theravada.

It was created on December 30, 2008 by Dr. David Snyder and Paul Davy. It is the main discussion area for the articles in this Dhamma Encyclopedia (Dhamma Wiki). It also is a place to discuss any other aspect of the Dhamma or for Buddhism in general. It is currently the largest, most visited Buddhist discussion forum on the internet.

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It has been said, that DW has been undergoing a "total revolution" in 2016.

May all the fruits of good intentions and undertakings of those bond and gather there, meet each other, always ripe in times when cause and effect can be a little traced and may that increase faith in the Gems for many.

Johann   *

Old posts and stories have been moved Bhikkhu area - [Bhikkhu Bereich] (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php?board=45.0).

http://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=1603.0 (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=1603.0)

May they have met at the right mind states.

May it be welcome for those who participated here befor as well. (Better Atma trusts that it is) Wishes and changes are of course not restricted.
Title: What wss the 2016 Revolution on Dhammawheel?
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 31, 2018, 07:01:04 PM

Aramika   *

Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "What wss the 2016 Revolution on Dhammawheel? (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=8936.0)" eröffnet, dem angehäng.
One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "What wss the 2016 Revolution on Dhammawheel? (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=8936.0)" or attached there.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 09, 2019, 11:48:10 AM
Mudita with those who could gain something from it, and it would be the silent and not expressing of sympatic joy and certain owed gratitude if not mention also personal benefit, whether it was intended or just grasped from certain circumstances.



Also mudita with those able to trace different of a real Dhammawheel and that wheels keeping you in the world for entertaining others or to get entertained, householder Dhamma that uses it simply as a beautification or that of compassion and faith of the Noble ones.

Where ever one gives into, to that one develops Upanissaya, get's bond.

My person could nothing but rebuke you, in manners like "Worthless man..." (carring so much responsibility), Brahman David NS , for you childlike foolish ways, so hurtfool now in such a good situation, but Brahman wouldn't listen... drunken, total indoxicated in youth, health and life.

The old Dramawheel of the jewish (Brahmans) and their bondage the lower class (social-addicted/dependend).
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Mohan Gnanathilake on January 14, 2019, 08:19:59 PM
Mudita with those who could gain something from it, and it would be the silent and not expressing of sympatic joy and certain owed gratitude if not mention also personal benefit, whether it was intended or just grasped from certain circumstances.



Also mudita with those able to trace different of a real Dhammawheel and that wheels keeping you in the world for entertaining others or to get entertained, householder Dhamma that uses it simply as a beautification or that of compassion and faith of the Noble ones.

Where ever one gives into, to that one develops Upanissaya, get's bond.

My person could nothing but rebuke you, in manners like "Worthless man..." (carring so much responsibility), Brahman David NS , for you childlike foolish ways, so hurtfool now in such a good situation, but Brahman wouldn't listen... drunken, total indoxicated in youth, health and life.

The old Dramawheel of the jewish (Brahmans) and their bondage the lower class (social-addicted/dependend).

Dear The Most Reverend Samanera Johann,

I would like to take this opportunity to wish www.dhammawheel.com and all members of www.dhammawheel.com all the best.

Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 14, 2019, 10:05:27 PM
It's always the best time to wish others good success, happiness, the best and to be able to give the causes for it, when ones goodwill is based on sacca/honest, without bearing any anger within oneself, Nyom Mohan Gnanathilake . Sometimes thoughts are the maximum one can spread since sometimes others would not like to be huged and possible feel even provocated.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Mohan Gnanathilake on February 02, 2019, 06:17:58 PM
It's always the best time to wish others good success, happiness, the best and to be able to give the causes for it, when ones goodwill is based on sacca/honest, without bearing any anger within oneself, Nyom Mohan Gnanathilake . Sometimes thoughts are the maximum one can spread since sometimes others would not like to be huged and possible feel even provocated.

Dear The Most Reverend Samanera Johann,

I agree with your informative sentences.

May my wishes ever be pure!

Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 23, 2021, 12:15:01 AM
Thought of the Tripple Gems and some basics had entered DW because monks do care, actually they care even more worse, browing cattles for this houshold, eager in engaging with each other in how best censoring, ban and execute their landlords house-laws... while eating together on the big table...

Let my person just leave the leave with a censured sample here, reflecting actually the matter well (like an anonymous dating place or eager controlled red-light district):

Quote from: Johann (deleted in secounds...)
Quote from: BKh (yes one of the headless monks of a headless community of drug addicted and what ever else consumer folk... easy to make an earning... (https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=601522#p601522)
Bhante Sujato has posted an essay here about the importance of maintaining true Dhamma

https://discourse.suttacentral.net/t/the-counterfeit-of-the-true-teaching/18622
Such arg-ument is a classic "Schuß ins Knie", or let's say, brings (confirms it) the matter simply into market fight and fear of traders...

Let's look as of how this current present species of yours will do on and argue a distinguish with their basic firm half-moral.

Actually offical traders are rightly more to be trusted, at least easier to recognize (which is at least fair, even it useless anyway), and sure also useless to remark that pointing out faults of lay people isn't without reason not proper to do by tjose thought to be Bhikkhus...

Metta and mudita anyway and may desired journeying-on not to painful.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 23, 2021, 01:05:58 AM
Censured encouragement that goes against seeing porn-addition as "no problem" which might be anyway a help for those able to take medicine:

Quote from: Johann (quickly deleted...)
Quote from: Pondera https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=602716#p602716
Quote from: Samana_Johann
Quote from: Pondera
“Discipline is for the purpose of restraint. Restraint is for the purpose of non-remorse. Non-remorse is for the purpose of joy.”

The only thing wrong with wasting your energy on porn is that if you restrain yourself from porn your kamma will improve and you will likely meet someone who you can share a real human relationship with (as opposed to cartoons).

But such, good householder, is called the Uposatha of the wild dog... (https://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/kn/j/j06/j300_en.html)... asceticism for later enjoyments, merely the way of the Jhains.

It doesn't end with "Non-remorse is for the purpose of joy...", if right view, dukkha, has been the first element of conditioned co-disapearing (lokuttara paṭiccasamuppāda). This training is made for release, not for joy.

Good householder; this training is gradual and includes joy along the way ..

Sure... and start with Respect, Confidence and Patient (https://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/lib/authors/thanissaro/respectconfidencepatient_en.html) of which can not be traced here arpund and (also) hardly ever in one after porn... so may householder just do on of what feeling fit to.

(btw... it's not unusual that one not behind gross goes even after corps and if able to be then without remorse and full of joy, well: stay with householder-traditions, "for what should be wrong with it, it's a death corps"...as for those who may wish not to fall into such disgrace, it might be good to envision such picture of oneself and there are even more ugly things daily getting in your news feeds, this dark sides of joy (btw. the vulgar word of female sex organ in Khmer language, using it like f**k or *hell* or *ohh!*.)

Porn, drugs, suicidal, mental illness... anonymous, of course... and stay "cool" with no-self... that's "the particular element why certain meet together, again and again", thinking under equal it's better for an desired escape in this Nigantha attracting enviroment. Really a hopless Drama-wheel if bound.

Title: Beware of Johann, a shameless thief.
Post by: Visitor on March 25, 2021, 02:42:47 PM

Aramika   *

Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [Ashram] Thmo Duk (Schiffsfelsen), Aural, Cambodia, អាស្រម ថ្មទូក ស្រុកឪរ៉ាល់ (https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=2375.0), hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
The new topic (or post/s) here are originaly from [Ashram] Thmo Duk (Schiffsfelsen), Aural, Cambodia, អាស្រម ថ្មទូក ស្រុកឪរ៉ាល់ (https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=2375.0). For eventual additionally information: please visit also the Topic of origin. Anumodana!

[Original post:]


Samana Johann is a thief!

He continually and repeatedly takes what is not given by joining online Buddhist forums from which he has been banned.

Beware of Johann, the phoney samana with no sense of shame.
Title: Re: Beware of Johann, a shameless thief.
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 25, 2021, 03:20:12 PM
It's right, that my person repeatedly joined DW, to make encouragements where no other ways to reach out are found.

Somehow rightly suspected if somebody would say: "He is up to steal, free our slaves! How can he do so?"

Sadhu, Sadhu for care and attentive observing that joining a forum, not personally invited, or by trade or bond to conditions, wouln't be proper to make use as dwelling.

Even taking in trust wouldn't fit. Something long time trying to make aware, as this tradition is marxism, or relays on views of rights.

What does good householder think, would simply joining a forum be fine for somebody not bound to Vinaya? Would a householder, a virtuous one, be remorse-able to take one account?

Two things further to consider, and trusting that thoughts for mention are well meant:

The Kamma of wishing of non-dwelling, non-existing of monks.
The Kamma of wishing to deprive Monks.

Not to speak of wishing to splitt: "Oh, may they be apart so that they wouldn't get known of my faults.

Btw., after getting the first 5 messages intentional approved (good possible by Nyom Robert K , as the only online yesterday), seemingly welcome, as made by moderator manual, the account has been already deleted, which means that the Kamma of "killing" or depriving is complete.

As for sometimes welcome, sometimes not... as never clear: sometimes suchvthings are welcome, sometimes not, sometimes this "rules" give the dominators even more freedom, as they would not even need to argue before killing and deprive.

/me : Visitor, assuming from Thailand, yet "hoping" not one who has gone forth, should how ever, feel being given to make use of visitor-account, feel having been invited and welcome  to raise critic, and of course he/she may also feel given to take "own" account or make proper use of what is shared for liberations purpose here on sanghamnet .
Title: Re: Beware of Johann, a shameless thief.
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 25, 2021, 03:38:50 PM
Posts:

Quote from: Johann in Pros and cons of short term ordination.[/i
url] (https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=613206#p613206)
Aside of grave wrongdoings which cut one of, there are "only" three reasons, as the Sublime Buddha told, why people go back into the lower life: drunken/indoxicated in youth, drunken in health, drunken in life. Short: not seeing the truth of Dukkha. No other valide reason can be found, or isn't again actually rooted in them.

But why busy in looking after those who, at least gave it a try? Don't one think that one not ordaining, "sitting in front of the TV, looking sports, no idea of doing it by himself", has in 90% other reasons not to ordain at first place.

As for "I don't ordain because not sure if I am able to resist...": well, what has been done has it's effects, what ever done, small or large, one has made "his". Someone seeking secure where there isn't, or hopes things will be fine without leaving stand/home/house, might be terrible sad, later, thing not done, yet strength already gone, war, hunger, pandemics, marxism has arosen, dukkha can be finally little be seen...

Quote from: Johann in Autobiography of monks (https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=613208#p613208)
Well, common trade is surely better and not so misleading as "Robinhood-hood", and even praising such.

Maybe better to say: blessed who can live by what has been given (personaly), or at least asked for.

Taking "free" doesn't mean to not break apart, better never arrive, at full Sila, still carry on wrong view. And "free" doesn't mean no debts, no trade, but there are various reasons why one gives, even bonds to very grave wrong views.

Why not telling your own story if inspired to feed, to give, good householder? Maybe starting with:"Long time I rejected to go on for my self, but once I desiered to feed someone with a story he could relay on for a walkabout, but considering, I saw I actually had non, my own, to give. That made my terrible annoyed, a good pride forced myselft to change this poorness. "If they could, ordinary human, why can't I? That wouldn't be proper for me!" So I got the right focus, right there, which leaded myself into the holly life..."

Quote from: Johann in I'm considering becoming a monk (https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=613085#p613085)
Go on, don't waste time, if serious, and Devas will open closed gates...

This isn't hotel booking, travel considering, consumer exchange, this way out, but a closing door behind and leaving keys inside. Hoing on and search for refuge in the homeless state, as soon inspired and perceiving a member of the Sangha. Nothing needed to know aside of Dukkha and faith that there is a way out, meeting the Samana. Else will be given once in robes for a good walking on in this Dhamma-Vinaya, and to nothing else is one bond as to the Tripple Gems, different than having chosen and booked a suggested trip.

Much success and right fear as well as no fear in walking on good. This way isfastly closing up, less will find it in time before disappeared.

Quote from: Johann in Can we accept secular Buddhism as Buddhism? (https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=613214#p613214)
Thinking in terms of "we" is already a strong notion of secular view of the path, good householder. So it seems like one asks just from one world (secular) to take part on another or? "Ism" in addition makes it really an ironical seeming question, or doesn't it?

My person guesses, if honest reflecting, good householder could easy find release from his doubts and open question, right?

Quote from: Johann in Deep Absorption in Gold and White Lights During Meditation (https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=613211#p613211)
Did/does it last? Then just call it: not sure, not secure, good housholder, if looking after hardwood. Not sure, is a good word for it, isn't it?

/me : actually my person seeked to reach out for Nyom Birk, (salayatananirodha), as he's very on the way to burden his good and firm faith, but wasn't able, as assumed, in areas not dear to kill, take and destroy... maybe Nyom Moritz , could nevertheless reach out and tell him about open doors here.
Title: Re: Beware of Johann, a shameless thief.
Post by: Moritz on March 25, 2021, 09:16:51 PM
/me : actually my person seeked to reach out for Nyom Birk, (salayatananirodha), as he's very on the way to burden his good and firm faith, but wasn't able, as assumed, in areas not dear to kill, take and destroy... maybe Nyom Moritz , could nevertheless reach out and tell him about open doors here.

/me I was in short contact with him recently via PM, thinking something similar, but was less direct. I will contact him again. _/\_
Title: Re: Beware of Johann, a shameless thief.
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 30, 2021, 08:01:37 PM
Risking further be called "shameless thief", maybe Upasaka Mangaka would have benefit from getting touched, Nyom Moritz , surely risking being called co-thief, and so simply follow own inspiration.
Title: Re: Beware of Johann, a shameless thief.
Post by: Moritz on March 31, 2021, 12:45:14 PM
Risking further be called "shameless thief", maybe Upasaka Mangaka would have benefit from getting touched, Nyom Moritz , surely risking being called co-thief, and so simply follow own inspiration.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

I messaged him to invite him here.
Title: Re: Beware of Johann, a shameless thief.
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 28, 2021, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: Dhammawheel site-admin, relative of owner https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=618832#p618832
Thus, since the Suttas are readily available, per the topic, there is no need to rely on modern monastics to act as flesh-and-bone intermediaries (gurus) to the Dhamma, despite some people's cravings for person-ality, soothing words, long stories, fatherly approval, community, belonging and the human touch.

Just that those with a little hope, caught under certain lay-man net, run by those consuming heritage, unvirtuose, full of ingratitude, disregard for the holly life and simply culture thieves, dealer, politicians, marxists, and their corrupt householding monks, tears of the heritage, might get to mind and seek for association with little future, since those areas are straight wheel into hell.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 13, 2022, 08:00:56 PM
Deleted 1. post by view-defending of second, and of course banned to avoid others seeing faults

Quote from: https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=42203
First, Bhante "Amerikan-Monk": everybody with eyes knows that this group there wouldn't be able to receive encouragements.
Second: there are also rules in regard of who would be allowed to encourage the nuns.
Third: why using lay-people and their affliction to "solve" internal issues similar this group there does, or better try to let one shine by others faults?
Fourth: Accusing not knowing really, suspecting of grave faults, often does great fault toward oneself, or?
Fifth: what's the benefit for Bhante himself in acting in this way, at least he would be easy regarded as the forth Samana risisting in this world? Remember Mahametta and MN10. Kāyagatāsati and Satipaṭṭhāna are also powerful tools. Certain ways can not be changed and wise seek refuge under the Gems, no where else, those heading outward decay.

Papanca-blogging isn't for fostering faith in those without and not to increase faith in those having found. Rest can be seen in Snp 1.4., or? Having met once, who would compare?
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 14, 2022, 05:45:32 PM
Looking a little, DW is likewise DD from within destroyed, fallen into grave corruption. While Brahman David NS would have certain possibilities toward paths and fruits, his "servants" serve not only as enemies for him, tehmselves and many, but actually rule the view-pool. And also here householder in robes who led the corrution and harm, not dare in doing what ever transgression to run their ship.

So over all one can be sure that the west, especially the angloamerican sphere has itself cut off deeply by tries to get their ideologies and politics into the Gems.

Like on DC even the public seeking "youngster" monks, yet still not total confused, are already running off, not to speak of devoted laypeople with basic right view.

So what one finds here on the "wanna be right" side and the "punk Sangha" are simply western pools of people far of the heartwood and devotion toward it and simply consume institutions for much destruction in regard of faith toward the Gems.

Wise those who avoid so called western or modern "Dhrama places" at all.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on February 01, 2022, 10:54:50 PM
If the leaders, mods and monks wouldn't be without virtue, would turn to better, the lost community could prosper, but hardly to imagine... yet possible... Atma thinks that is of no worth to try to help anybody further there out, having placed all of which could help, at least.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Gavesin Sutta: About Gavesin

On one occasion the Blessed One was wandering on a tour among the Kosalans with a large community of monks. As he was going along a road, he saw a large sala forest in a certain place. Going down from the road, he went to the sala forest. On reaching it, he plunged into it and at a certain spot, broke into a smile. Then the thought occurred to Ven. Ananda, "What is the cause, what is the reason, for the Blessed One's breaking into a smile? It's not without purpose that Tathagata's break into smile." So he said to the Blessed One, "What is the cause, what is the reason, for the Blessed One's breaking into a smile? It's not without purpose that Tathagata's break into smile."

"In this spot, Ananda, there was once a great city: powerful, prosperous, populous, crowded with people. And on that city, Kassapa the Blessed One, worthy & fully self-awakened, dwelled dependent. Now, Kassapa the Blessed One, worthy & fully self-awakened, had a lay follower named Gavesin who didn't practice in full in terms of his virtue. But because of Gavesin, there were 500 people who had been inspired to declare themselves lay followers, and yet who also didn't practice in full in terms of their virtue.

"Then the thought occurred to Gavesin the lay follower: 'I am the benefactor of these 500 lay followers, their leader, the one who has inspired them. But I don't practice in full in terms of my virtue, just as they don't practice in full in terms of their virtue. In that we're exactly even; there's nothing extra [for me]. How about something extra!' So he went to the 500 lay followers and on arrival said to them, 'From today onward I want you to know me as someone who practices in full in terms of my virtue.'

"Then the thought occurred to the 500 lay followers: 'Master Gavesin is our benefactor, our leader, the one who has inspired us. He will now practice in full in terms of his virtue. So why shouldn't we?' So they went to Gavesin the lay follower and on arrival said to him, 'From today onward we want Master Gavesin to know the 500 lay followers as people who practice in full in terms of their virtue.'

"Then the thought occurred to Gavesin the lay follower: 'I am the benefactor of these 500 lay followers, their leader, the one who has inspired them. I practice in full in terms of my virtue, just as they practice in full in terms of their virtue. In that we're exactly even; there's nothing extra [for me]. How about something extra!' So he went to the 500 lay followers and on arrival said to them, 'From today onward I want you to know me as someone who practices the chaste life, the life apart, abstaining from intercourse, the act of villagers.'

"Then the thought occurred to the 500 lay followers: 'Master Gavesin is our benefactor, our leader, the one who has inspired us. He will now practice the chaste life, the life apart, abstaining from intercourse, the act of villagers. So why shouldn't we?' So they went to Gavesin the lay follower and on arrival said to him, 'From today onward we want Master Gavesin to know the 500 lay followers as people who practice the chaste life, the life apart, abstaining from intercourse, the act of villagers.'

"Then the thought occurred to Gavesin the lay follower: 'I am the benefactor of these 500 lay followers, their leader, the one who has inspired them. I practice in full in terms of my virtue, just as they practice in full in terms of their virtue. I practice the chaste life, the life apart, abstaining from intercourse, the act of villagers, just as they practice the chaste life, the life apart, abstaining from intercourse, the act of villagers. In that we're exactly even; there's nothing extra [for me]. How about something extra!' So he went to the 500 lay followers and on arrival said to them, 'From today onward I want you to know me as someone who eats only one meal a day, refraining in the night, abstaining from a meal at the wrong time.'

"Then the thought occurred to the 500 lay followers: 'Master Gavesin is our benefactor, our leader, the one who has inspired us. He will now eat only one meal a day, refraining in the night, abstaining from a meal at the wrong time. So why shouldn't we?' So they went to Gavesin the lay follower and on arrival said to him, 'From today onward we want Master Gavesin to know the 500 lay followers as people who eat only one meal a day, refraining in the night, abstaining from a meal at the wrong time.'

"Then the thought occurred to Gavesin the lay follower: 'I am the benefactor of these 500 lay followers, their leader, the one who has inspired them. I practice in full in terms of my virtue, just as they practice in full in terms of their virtue. I practice the chaste life, the life apart, abstaining from intercourse, the act of villagers, just as they practice the chaste life, the life apart, abstaining from intercourse, the act of villagers. I eat only one meal a day, refraining in the night, abstaining from a meal at the wrong time, just as they eat only one meal a day, refraining in the night, abstaining from a meal at the wrong time. In that we're exactly even; there's nothing extra [for me]. How about something extra!'

"So he went to Kassapa the Blessed One, worthy & fully self-awakened, and on arrival said to him, 'Lord, may I receive the Going Forth in the Blessed One's presence. May I receive the Full Acceptance.' So he received the Going Forth in the presence of Kassapa the Blessed One, worthy & fully self-awakened; he received the Going Forth. And not long after his admission — dwelling alone, secluded, heedful, ardent, & resolute — he in no long time reached & remained in the supreme goal of the chaste life, for which clansmen rightly go forth from home into homelessness, knowing & realizing it for himself in the here & now. He knew: 'Birth is ended, the holy life fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for the sake of this world.' And thus Gavesin the monk became another one of the arahants.

"Then the thought occurred to the 500 lay followers: 'Master Gavesin is our benefactor, our leader, the one who has inspired us. Having shaven off his hair & beard, having put on the ochre robe, he has gone forth from the home life into homelessness. So why shouldn't we?'

"So they went to Kassapa the Blessed One, worthy & fully self-awakened, and on arrival said to him, 'Lord, may we receive the Going Forth in the Blessed One's presence. May we receive the Full Acceptance.' So they received the Going Forth in the presence of Kassapa the Blessed One, worthy & fully self-awakened; they received the Going Forth.

"Then the thought occurred to Gavesin the monk: 'I obtain at will — without difficulty, without hardship — this unexcelled bliss of release. O, that these 500 monks may obtain at will — without difficulty, without hardship — this unexcelled bliss of release!' Then those 500 monks — dwelling alone, secluded, heedful, ardent, & resolute — in no long time reached & remained in the supreme goal of the chaste life, for which clansmen rightly go forth from home into homelessness, knowing & realizing it for themselves in the here & now. They knew: 'Birth is ended, the holy life fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for the sake of this world.' And thus did those 500 monks — headed by Gavesin, striving at what is more & more excellent, more & more refined — realize unexcelled release.

"So, Ananda, you should train yourselves: 'Striving at what is more & more excellent, more & more refined, we will realize unexcelled release.' That's how you should train yourselves."
Quote from: https://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.180.than_en.html

May nobody ever get bond in a dependency heavily bond into the world and downwardly.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on July 13, 2022, 03:54:03 AM
A hopeless realm, that of Nagas, unless willing and doing efforts to leave it, in regard of growing in Dhamma, unless the Naga-King, their Leader, would get to mind.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Vila on July 13, 2022, 10:02:11 AM
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Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: dadati on July 13, 2022, 10:38:21 PM
Calling you "Dearest Fake Monk". What a shame on them. What a shame on Coëmgen.

The one who called you "Fake Monk" just said "Foolish Buddhists listen to the Dhamma.".

How insane it is. On a so called Theravada forum.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on July 13, 2022, 10:49:30 PM
Taking what isn't real for real and what is real for not, is Dhammata, Nyom. Seldom that one meets good association, or go after it when traced. It's just a start. It's the last generation of those gone forth. Being act wrong because of ignorance, not-knowing. If knowing, who would act wrong? This path isn't to change Samsara and Drama-wheel, but to leave it behind, as of no refuge, no security there found.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: dadati on July 13, 2022, 10:53:59 PM
After this Fake statement I was not/I am not willing to participate in that any more.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on July 13, 2022, 11:01:05 PM
After this Fake statement I was not/I am not willing to participate in that any more.
Straight forward: such decision isn't for ones lose and good if one wise, tries to build Upanissaya toward the Gems rather to argue about householding, positions, views, other then right, Nyom. Yet like-a-like seek each other, meet again and again around an element.. Nyom, if wishing, may take account (guest posts can be added to it.)
Title: Welcome dadati
Post by: Administration on July 14, 2022, 06:08:58 AM

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Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on December 22, 2022, 09:59:46 AM
It's an total lost are, as one of the central western/modern Gem-thief area, without any relation to fundamental ethic, moral, generosity and bond by strong wrong view and foolish conceit, heading themselves and does caught up toward long time degeneration.
Even the few with some potential, are incapable to leave the huge "jewish-marxist-slave" bondage soon flooding also over the old world.

It's total pointless to try to give anything into a bridge as means for escape, similar the decay of the Sakyans. The huge amount of heavy akusala kamma block every prosperity for long time.

Nihilists believe only in death, destroyed thing, as they fear the riping of missdeeds like hell,vfear the reality of effects, fear living "God": kammic circle of genocide, their are incapable to escape, ever on rapping Sublime when there is a possibility.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 12, 2023, 08:06:04 AM
There was slight "hope" for the western Brahmans, leaded there by David NS , to come to mind. Now consciously banned Dhamma, Banned Sangha, Banned Awakening, gone for decay, like the guild of Sujato Bhikkhu , for non-resistance, for lose, for overtaking the heritage, traders of the Dhamma, cultur marxists, not only that the bowl got cemented turned over, but one can be sure that those Brahmans and all being related, will face soon great lose and are secured for long terms suffering.

A fool, fools, what ever gained, what ever skill learned, use it just for their own ruin, and the ruin of those related to them.

One is blessed to be never related to them, blessed, never accidentally get in debt with thieves, blessed if never perceiving members of this degenerated clan, either lay or in robes, as in any relation with the Gems.

Yet a huge field to learn to expand the Brahmaviharas and fast also seek release on it, for there can nothing be done for those who harmed the Gems, harmed what's for the non-harm, heavens, welfare and release, and those bond and related to them.

One seeking for the Path, can just, like the Bodhisatta declared a wish toward the Deva King, wish "May I, on my journey, never meet fools", and like one gone forth "May I never meet thieves". Not many are blessed like that, because prefering to make use ofunskilful or wrong means, hoping to gain good by it, but those who think like thieves, will just meet like-a-like.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 13, 2023, 08:19:51 AM
Quote from: {removed name} in shout box
"Why locked DW discussion?"

Because of no worth and no way to reanimate or bring to mind, but if Nyom likes to just beat death dogs, Atma can open it, yet wouldn't recommend to touch "death man walking", but better give into metta. Actually my person does not see much worth to open much for people without regard, respect and child like and untrained behaviour. May he do as he likes.

So place for metta, good wishes, farewells..., here now, for those leaving from there, giving release.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on January 13, 2023, 01:58:45 PM
If expressing such ditthi, such understanding, such the overview of a situation, was all, Atma thinks it's better closed again unless one desires to express gratitude, good wishes, and goodwill for a desired leave of trade and taking on not given, once changed relationship.

When wise rebuke, point out, even use harsh ways, then not at all to defend a innoble ditthi/stand to lift themself, for gains or honor, or what ever selfclaimable, or to try to deny goodness accepted (e.g. forgetting given, sacrificed, parents), but simply out of compassion, knowing well the outcome of having wrong view, acting on wrong view and pull dependencies with one into long term disaster, and when there is given possibility.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 08, 2023, 10:28:54 AM
"Finally" the union-leader, Paul, has renounced his baby and will maybe wonder why it does not even freel really gratitude. Fight a life for the "poor", at the end just total cut off of own parents, not to speak of lost any stand within the refuge toward the Gems. What reflection, of the basic 6, would be left now? Yet right here, when seeing the Gems, and the enemy in one's heart, would be a change, but hard to ever seen once fallen into disgrace.

Now the British follower of other sects, the deep christian rooted "disciple" of Ajahn Sumedho, even so of strong wrong view and on "i have a right", has taken on co-destructor next the Dhamma-business man David, turning on the Dramawheel for "free" (without any real Nissaya).
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Moritz on March 10, 2023, 12:23:05 AM
I remember him as one of the most welcoming, friendly and helpful people on DW, when I first visited there 12 years ago.
May he find back to such spirit, and release and happiness.
Title: Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 10, 2023, 06:12:20 AM
Sadhu

Wish to control, care, else that metta goes against metta, and deeds away from it.