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Title: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on September 28, 2019, 10:28:26 AM

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To inform, as my person usual has less troubles with such, using just given: after download of Bhantes files getting "CRSF Attack"s.

So maybe Bhante Varado , again considers to abound worlds ways and tool and stay on the Gems side. It would not work differently within this Simas.

Things are at least, or usually on one side purified here, if not on both.

Kana will remove the new edition attachment out of security that no one gets harmed, not able to check not using certain security at all, aside of tripple refuge.

Vandami Bhante _/\_

Where did Bhante encounter a "CSRF attack"? Was there a warning on the accesstoinsight.eu website?
I somehow cannot imagine how an uploaded file would cause such, so I don't think it has to do with any file sent by Bhante Varado.
If there is a warning about CSRF displayed it means there is some kind of mechanism on the site  (DokuWiki I guess) to recognize and prevent  possible cases of such attacks (which are generally caused for example by "malicious" (or maybe just misplaced or misconfigured) links from another website to the "targeted" website for the "attack", so nothing to do with the content of uploaded files.) But such prevention mechanisms would generally work in a way that could give rise to false alarms in case of bad internet connection if I am informed correctly.

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If
Not sure in how far related but it seems as if the laptop might be infected with a virus writting "v" endless where ever possible so that nothing can be used.

Just trying to use the avaliable virus scan. Actions are limited since what ever opened having imput fields would be used by the foreign program to write. Atma is long time off those spheres and use of current tools.

Standard scans didn't find anything.

Removing the keyboard helped seemingly. It looks like the v-key is somehow broken. As soon as connecting the keyboard it would write "v" on repeatedly. Maybe to wet or any dirt or animals inside.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on September 28, 2019, 04:03:02 PM
Looking at the products pages, thought it might be a driver issue, Atma got informed that the laptop has still warranty till Nov. 9 2019 (42 days remaining).

Quote from: support page further info
This product has 1 year warranty and is entitled to depot repai service. Customers may call their local service center for more information. Dealers may provide carry-in repair for this product.

Also coming across that others also had issues with this or that key, repeating itself and all support given there was mentioned with "let it reqlace on warranty".

Just to let it be known.

Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on September 28, 2019, 08:41:09 PM
Kana Prah Ang  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on September 30, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

I Kana also asked Bong Sophoeun  ( Sophorn ?) and Bong Ieng Puthy , both will go to visit Bhante tomorrow and next day. May she help
me bring the Sangha Laptob back to repair in Phnom Penh.

 _/\_ _/\_  _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on September 30, 2019, 03:54:02 PM
Sadhu

(In such case: Is it fine to kep keep the tablet and send just the key-board, since scan ID is also incl. on the key board alone, and tablet works fine and in use. Since continue work would be possible and no special "danger" of data lose or need for back up making)
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on September 30, 2019, 04:41:28 PM
_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

I Kana also asked Bong Sophoeun  ( Sophorn ?) and Bong Ieng Puthy , both will go to visit Bhante tomorrow and next day. May she help
me bring the Sangha Laptob back to repair in Phnom Penh.

 _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

 Kana Prah Ang  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

 Bang Sophorn and her friends, she would go tomorrow afternoon. Spend a night at Tmor tuk.
The next day organised by Bang Puthy along with her new Dhammas friend lead by Bhante Sreng will leave Wat Ak Yum at 4am to go to Aural for Paying Respect toward the Sangha.

 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on September 30, 2019, 04:42:18 PM
Sadhu

(In such case: Is it fine to kep keep the tablet and send just the key-board, since scan ID is also incl. on the key board alone, and tablet works fine and in use. Since continue work would be possible and no special "danger" of data lose or need for back up making)

Kana Prah Ang  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on September 30, 2019, 05:49:28 PM
So Atma will possible give the keyboard (only) to Nyom Sophorn (told that she might visit tomorrow). Just if needed, the ID of the Laptop is "P202GJVE".
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on September 30, 2019, 06:02:07 PM
Prah Karuna Prah Ang  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 09, 2019, 11:57:16 AM
Tvay Bang Kum Prah Ang _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Kana took the Keyboard to repair at the maintenance service,
They couldnt fix it without tablet. Kana think it would be good
to add USB Wireless Keyboard and flash.

 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 09, 2019, 01:06:29 PM
The lenovo intern. Servic center said: simply change to an new, just for info (no repair, it's a fabrication error) and not seldom. (their site is currently down to link the message)
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 09, 2019, 01:10:18 PM
Kana  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 09, 2019, 01:34:07 PM
There is a list of offical service centers: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/ServiceProvider

An that was the advice: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-based-Tablets/Problem-with-MIIX-320-keyboard/m-p/3894577#M10581
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 09, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
Kana Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 13, 2019, 09:34:02 AM
Both seems to work (for) now. The original keyboard as well the external.

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user:johann:gallery:archiv2019:20191013_01.jpg

Sadhu
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 13, 2019, 09:49:36 AM
Sadhu Sadhu  :) _/\_ _/\_  _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 15, 2019, 08:48:54 AM
Oh, to early... it still persists (possible because the air is simple to wet). Since the wireless keyboard requires a standard usb and only the standard keyboard provides such and is not possible to disable, it wouldn't work. The tablet itself has only a special small usb plug in.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 15, 2019, 09:00:39 AM
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Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 15, 2019, 09:24:50 AM
Kana Bhante   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Kana found it might be possible to try USB caharging capble connect from USB keyboard  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 15, 2019, 09:45:14 AM
Kana will try to add another Blutooth Keyboard, If not Possible  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 15, 2019, 10:07:20 AM
It might work. A kind of plug/cable from small to large. Not sure which kind, maybe USB-micro A, different from that of mobile devices. Try to make a picture.

Usb-keyboard is better because it supplies also with electricity, wireless need batteries.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 15, 2019, 10:26:05 AM
Kana  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 15, 2019, 10:47:10 AM
It was possible to disconnect the standard keyboard while keeping up the usb for connecting to the bluetooth keyboard and mouse. So it can be used so far as long batteries last. Cable mouse would also work in this way. As sometimes reconnect automatically, disconnecting again is necessary.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 15, 2019, 11:00:49 AM
 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 23, 2019, 07:21:14 AM
for info, replay today:

Quote from: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-based-Tablets/Keyboard-writes-repeatedly-quot-vvv-quot/m-p/4556223/highlight/true#M12721
Hi SamanaJohann!

Thanks for posting in the Community,

You can check the specific key if it's somehow stuck, not aligned with the other keys or it feels different when you press it. Also, remove the keyboard and try a power drain,

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht500564

Put the keyboard back and check. If it's still the same, remove it again and reset. Make sure to backup files first to avoid data loss. Here's the link,

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht500564

Update us with the result.

Quote from: Johann
Sadhu!

The devoted giver of the idea-pad tried to solve it. The shop in Phnom Penh couldn't solve, couldn't repair and told that they would need the whole device, not only the keyboard and sending it to China, it would take 3 month +

Maybe you may have another solution, as not replacement for 3 month could be used.

See also here: http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,9466.msg20055.html#msg20055

Atma will now total reset the lap top, copy all Dhamma only to the new given USB-stick, and let's look if that solves the issue.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 23, 2019, 11:17:45 AM
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Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 24, 2019, 09:06:03 AM
Atma has reset the Idea-pad now (reinstall of windows and delete of all apps), finished the undertaking.

It seems that the keyboard now works again (currently writing with it).

Since like mostly, when buying computers in Cambodia, they come along with a set of "standard" robber-copies of software, Atma will now install the sangha-given softwares, Libreofffice (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,627.0.html) and notepad+ (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,483.0.html) of which had always been enough till here, for the last an many year+ to maintain this host and sort Dhamma-Dana.

It wouldn't be complete if not noting the pleasure/ease to work in a clean environment.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on October 24, 2019, 09:36:47 AM
 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 24, 2019, 12:59:31 PM
It may take a week effort till all runs as before (download, settings, languages..., less battery, low internet as well) so one may please pardon that things may need longer as usual and thought.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on August 24, 2020, 07:16:35 PM
Seems to be another time "trouble" with keyboard or what ever, Nyom Moritz . Laptop wasn't turned off total by stuck in time-displaying, not reacting. "Brutal" trun off, then wishing to start, boot does not work automatical but gives a menu at a ace called "GRUB". If able to get it run, there is steady writting "1" or "\" or other keys. Not sure where to try to fix. Last time it was some matter with "battery", if right, and to get that done, "drain" was suggested by reinstall of system, if my person got it right. If any idea, maybe Atma could follow such further and of course nothing that is that importand.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Moritz on August 24, 2020, 07:48:20 PM
Seems to be another time "trouble" with keyboard or what ever, Nyom Moritz . Laptop wasn't turned off total by stuck in time-displaying, not reacting. "Brutal" trun off, then wishing to start, boot does not work automatical but gives a menu at a ace called "GRUB". If able to get it run, there is steady writting "1" or "\" or other keys. Not sure where to try to fix. Last time it was some matter with "battery", if right, and to get that done, "drain" was suggested by reinstall of system, if my person got it right. If any idea, maybe Atma could follow such further and of course nothing that is that importand.

Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

From the description, I don't quite understand the issue.
GRUB is the boot manager. Normally, there would be a boot menu at the beginning, for a few seconds, where one could choose certain options or change boot parameters in case of problems (or use a different operating system like Windows, if it would still be installed). After a few seconds, or hitting "Enter", normally the installed Linux system would boot.
Maybe a few photos of what is on the screen would help to diagnose what is happening.
Sometimes also talk on telephone is easier for getting to understand. I will try to call.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Moritz on August 24, 2020, 08:08:12 PM
As it seems the automatic key-press issue only happens while the keyboard is attached, one could maybe simply boot the laptop with the keyboard taken off.
The issue is maybe more widespread with these models of laptop, as found similar here in the Lenovo support forums (this case for Lenovo MIIX-520, and the Sangha laptop model is MIIX-320, but probably they are similar in parts): MIIX 520 stuck key issue (https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-based-Tablets/MIIX-520-stuck-key-issue/m-p/4098004)
In that case mentioned in the support forum, the laptop still had warranty, was sent back to Lenovo and got a new keyboard, after which there were no issues anymore. So there was apparently a physical problem with the keyboard. Probably not easy/possible to fix that by oneself, or without replacement.

As I remember, there is also a USB keyboard at the Ashram? Surely much less comfortable, if wanting to work with it without the laptop keyboard attached, having to put the screen upright in a stable and convenient position. But it might be a possible workaround.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Moritz on August 24, 2020, 08:19:28 PM
In another support topic (https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series-Notebooks/Keyboard-key-keeps-pressing-on-its-own-Lenovo-y50-70/m-p/3958005), regarding another different Lenovo laptop, this solution was recommended, suspecting a static charge problem, and trying to fix it by doing a discharge:

Quote from: Krakken on Lenovo support forum (https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series-Notebooks/Keyboard-key-keeps-pressing-on-its-own-Lenovo-y50-70/m-p/3958005)
(If the battery is internal, please just skip the remove/replace battery steps.)
1. Turn the unit off
2. Remove the battery and the Mains adapter
3. Press and hold the front power button for 30 seconds
4. Replace the battery and the Mains adapter
5. Turn the unit on as normal

So, take away all sources of electricity (cable, battery if possible), then press the power button for a long time. Then give electricity again. It seems this worked for at least one person, with a different laptop. One could try...

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on August 24, 2020, 08:24:13 PM
As it seems the automatic key-press issue only happens while the keyboard is attached, one could maybe simply boot the laptop with the keyboard taken off.
The issue is maybe more widespread with these models of laptop, as found similar here in the Lenovo support forums (this case for Lenovo MIIX-520, and the Sangha laptop model is MIIX-320, but probably they are similar in parts): MIIX 520 stuck key issue (https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-based-Tablets/MIIX-520-stuck-key-issue/m-p/4098004)
In that case mentioned in the support forum, the laptop still had warranty, was sent back to Lenovo and got a new keyboard, after which there were no issues anymore. So there was apparently a physical problem with the keyboard. Probably not easy/possible to fix that by oneself, or without replacement.

As I remember, there is also a USB keyboard at the Ashram? Surely much less comfortable, if wanting to work with it without the laptop keyboard attached, having to put the screen upright in a stable and convenient position. But it might be a possible workaround.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
The same line of ways is found above, Nyom. As told: reinstall system worked last time, other didn't. Maybe it's a "wet-air" issue and just met accidentally in the way of last time. Please no worry at all.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on August 24, 2020, 08:30:00 PM
In another support topic (https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series-Notebooks/Keyboard-key-keeps-pressing-on-its-own-Lenovo-y50-70/m-p/3958005), regarding another different Lenovo laptop, this solution was recommended, suspecting a static charge problem, and trying to fix it by doing a discharge:

Quote from: Krakken on Lenovo support forum (https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series-Notebooks/Keyboard-key-keeps-pressing-on-its-own-Lenovo-y50-70/m-p/3958005)
(If the battery is internal, please just skip the remove/replace battery steps.)
1. Turn the unit off
2. Remove the battery and the Mains adapter
3. Press and hold the front power button for 30 seconds
4. Replace the battery and the Mains adapter
5. Turn the unit on as normal

So, take away all sources of electricity (cable, battery if possible), then press the power button for a long time. Then give electricity again. It seems this worked for at least one person, with a different laptop. One could try...

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Hold on long didn't work so far and at least battery can not be removed. It will work in times and some workaround ways are opencurrently, Nyom.

Sadhu for care.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Moritz on August 24, 2020, 09:05:38 PM
As told: reinstall system worked last time, other didn't. Maybe it's a "wet-air" issue and just met accidentally in the way of last time. Please no worry at all.
_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Re-install in the old way will not work anymore, because the Windows re-install image was deleted to free up more space. But I also doubt that it would really help.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on August 24, 2020, 11:31:31 PM
Atma wouldn't install anything, not at least because not even an idea of how to do, even if "a new version of...download/install..." pops up.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on September 01, 2020, 07:09:56 PM
Atma tried to get the laptop run another time but did only work without keyboard. As soon as booting with keyboard all kinds of failures arise, typing what ever characters. If putting on after booting "\" would steady be written. Just for information. Cableless keyboard wouldn't work since usb required. For deactivating keyboard to use only it's usb's (like did last time) Atma lacks on knowledge about using linux system to get there.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Moritz on September 01, 2020, 10:41:16 PM
Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Oh, I see. The USB ports are on the laptop keyboard, so cannot just leave the keyboard plugged off if wanting to use a USB keyboard instead.
Is it possible to do at least some work with only the touchscreen and using the touchscreen keyboard?

I found here (https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-on-a-hybrid-lenovo-miix-320/22042) the commands to disable the laptop keyboard on the Lenovo MIIX320.

One would need to open a terminal and type (with touchscreen keyboard, hopefully possible, or copy-paste from here) these commands:

For disabling the keyboard:
Code: [Select]
xinput disable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device"

For disabling the touchpad under the keyboard:
Code: [Select]
xinput disable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device Touchpad"


The problem is, I think these commands will not have effect if the keyboard is not plugged in. And plugging the keyboard in, it would probably type by itself "\\\\..." etc. as described, typing nonsense into the command.

So to get around this, one could tell the computer to execute the command after 5 seconds (or something), and then plug in the keyboard (within five seconds), so they would run when the keyboard has been plugged in fast enough:

For disabling the keyboard after five seconds:
Code: [Select]
sleep 5 && xinput disable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device"

For disabling the touchpad under the keyboard after five seconds:
Code: [Select]
sleep 5 && xinput disable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device Touchpad"

For disabling the keyboard and touchpad after five seconds:
Code: [Select]
sleep 5 && xinput disable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device" && xinput disable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device Touchpad"

(or "sleep 10" if 5 seconds is not enough)



If, for some reason, wanting to enable again:

For enabling the keyboard:
Code: [Select]
xinput enable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device"

For enabling the touchpad under the keyboard:
Code: [Select]
xinput enable "HAILUCK CO.,LTD Lenovo HID Device Touchpad"



If it is working to type something into a terminal, it would also be good to do this:
Code: [Select]
zip -r udev.zip /etc/udev && lftp www-data:[password]@sangham.net/storage/ && rm udev.zip
(must enter the correct FTP password here instead of "[password]")

This will copy some configuration files from the laptop to the web server, where I could download and look at them.
As far as I remember, there is some script inside it that I wrote which would react on keyboard plug-in events. I think it would be good to add the "disable keyboard" commands to this script, so it would automatically be disabled when plugging in the keyboard. I would like to check the files to see where to put it.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on September 02, 2020, 12:18:22 AM
Sadhu for care and effort. But: no, no. Better letting it rest for now.
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on October 06, 2020, 04:03:46 PM
Having put the key-board into the sun for a good while, trying short after, all worked well without repeating keys... so it seems that the room is simply to damp, the air as well, and although Atma would prefer to work further on ati-sangham, maybe good to wait till a suitable place is made in the extention part of the Ashrams cave.

Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 14, 2021, 10:32:10 PM
Nyom Moritz had made the Sangha-laptop useable again by giving a USB-adapter, so that external keyboard and other USB-plugins can be used, since the original keybord did no more work. He also offered a new cable keyboard and a mouse.

Sadhu, Sadhu
Title: Re: Infection/defection of Sangha laptop Thmo Duk
Post by: អរិយវង្ស on March 14, 2021, 10:57:07 PM
Mudita _/\_ _/\_ _/\_