Nissaya: dependency, support, relation, teacher

[Johann]

Depending on one's teacher, one either gains possibility to go beyond dependency or trapped in what ever bond.

Fearing this danger of corrup lineages, the Sublime Buddha took the matter of giving and choosing dependency very seriously, also in regard of falling away from it.

Yet the matter, like all gains, is a "seek duty" and not at all a "bring duty". Other than common believe, community, Sangha, naturally doesn't serve as Nissaya in a benefical and also liberating manner.

[Johann]

And when has one gained liberating Nissaya?

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

2. Nissayasuttaṁ

Supportive condition

[001.02] Then a certain bhikkhu approached The Blessed One, … re … sat on a side and said:

“Venerable sir, it is said, is endowed with supportive conditions. How far is a bhikkhu endowed with supportive conditions?”

“Bhikkhu, the bhikkhu supported by faith too, dispels demerit and develops merit, by that his demerit gets dispelled. Bhikkhu, the bhikkhu supported by shame too, … re … remorse too, … re … effort too, … re … wisdom too, he thoroughly dispels demerit as he dispels seeing with the noble one's wisdom and dispels.

Bhikkhu, the bhikkhu established in these five things should abide supported on four things. What four?

Here, bhikkhu, the bhikkhu discriminating pursues a certain thing, discriminating patiently bears a certain thing, discriminating avoids a certain thing and discriminating drives out a certain thing. Bhikkhu, thus the bhikkhu is endowed with the supportive conditions.

Quote from: https://sangham.net/user/johann/work/uppa/sut/an/09/sut.an.09.v01.uppa#._nissayasutta%E1%B9%81

[Johann]

Not easy to find suitable Nissaya for one not firm in the above.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Upasampādetabbachakkaṃ: Sets of Six on Who Should Give Acceptance

(Mv.I.37.1) [99] “Endowed with six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

“He is not endowed with the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He is not endowed with the aggregate of concentration of one beyond training.

“He is not endowed with the aggregate of discernment of one beyond training.

“He is not endowed with the aggregate of release of one beyond training.

“He is not endowed with the aggregate of knowledge and vision of release of one beyond training.

“He has fewer than ten rains.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.2) “Endowed with six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

“He is endowed with the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He is endowed with the aggregate of concentration of one beyond training.

“He is endowed with the aggregate of discernment of one beyond training.

“He is endowed with the aggregate of release of one beyond training.

“He is endowed with the aggregate of knowledge and vision of release of one beyond training.

“He has ten rains or more.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.3) “Endowed with six further qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

“He himself is not endowed with the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training, nor does he get others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is not endowed with the aggregate of concentration of one beyond training, nor does he get others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is not endowed with the aggregate of discernment of one beyond training, nor does he get others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is not endowed with the aggregate of release of one beyond training, nor does he get others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is not endowed with the aggregate of knowledge and vision of release of one beyond training, nor does he get others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He has fewer than ten rains.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.4) “Endowed with six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

“He himself is endowed with the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training and he gets others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is endowed with the aggregate of concentration of one beyond training and he gets others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is endowed with the aggregate of discernment of one beyond training and he gets others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is endowed with the aggregate of release of one beyond training and he gets others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He himself is endowed with the aggregate of knowledge and vision of release of one beyond training and he gets others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.

“He has ten rains or more.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.5) “Endowed with six further qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

“He is without conviction,

“without a sense of shame, “without compunction,

“lazy, “and of muddled mindfulness.

“He has fewer than ten rains.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.6) “Endowed with six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

“He has conviction, a sense of shame, compunction, his persistence is aroused, and his mindfulness established. He has ten rains or more. Endowed with these six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.7) “Endowed with six further qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

“He is one who, in terms of heightened virtue, is defective in his virtue.

“He is one who, in terms of heightened conduct, is defective in his conduct.

“He is one who, in terms of higher views, is defective in his views.

“He is not learned.

“He is undiscerning.

“He has fewer than ten rains.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.8) “Endowed with six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

“He is one who, in terms of heightened virtue, is not defective in his virtue. He is one who, in terms of heightened conduct, is not defective in his conduct. He is one who, in terms of higher views, is not defective in his views. He is learned. He is discerning. He has ten rains or more.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.9) “Endowed with six further qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

“He is not competent to tend or to get someone else to tend to a sick student or pupil;

“to allay or to get someone else to allay dissatisfaction (with the celibate life);

“to dispel or to get someone else to dispel, in line with the Dhamma, anxiety that has arisen.

“He does not know what is an offense.

“He does not know the method for removing an offense.

“He has fewer than ten rains.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.10) “Endowed with six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

“He is competent to tend or to get someone else to tend to a sick student or pupil; to allay or to get someone else to allay dissatisfaction (with the celibate life); to dispel or to get someone else to dispel, in line with the Dhamma, anxiety that has arisen. He knows what is an offense, and he knows the method for removing an offense. He has ten rains or more.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.11) “Endowed with six further qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

“He is not competent to get his pupil or student to train in the training of the (monks’) customs.

“He is not competent to discipline him in the training that is basic to the celibate life;

“to discipline him in the higher Dhamma; “to discipline him in the higher Vinaya;(1)

“to pry away, in line with the Dhamma, a (wrong) viewpoint that has arisen.

“He has fewer than ten rains.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.12) “Endowed with six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

“He is competent to get his pupil or student to train in the training of the (monks’) customs. He is competent to discipline him in the training that is basic to the celibate life; to discipline him in the higher Dhamma; to discipline him in the higher Vinaya; to pry away, in line with the Dhamma, a (wrong) viewpoint that has arisen. He has ten rains or more.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.13) “Endowed with six further qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

“He does not know what is an offense.

“He does not know what is not an offense.

“He does not know what is a light offense.

“He does not know what is a heavy offense.

“Both Pāṭimokkhas, in detail, have not been properly handed down to him, have not been properly explicated, have not been properly ‘revolved’ (in terms of the ‘wheels’), have not been properly judged, clause by clause, letter by letter.

“He has fewer than ten rains.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk should not give Acceptance, should not give dependence, and a novice should not be made to attend to him.

(Mv.I.37.14) “Endowed with six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.

“He knows what is an offense, what is not an offense, what is a light offense, what is a heavy offense. Both Pāṭimokkhas, in detail, have been properly handed down to him, properly explicated, properly ‘revolved,’ properly judged, clause by clause, letter by letter. He has ten rains or more.

“Endowed with these six qualities, a monk may give Acceptance, may give dependence, and a novice may be made to attend to him.”

The Sixteen Sets of Six on Who Should Give Acceptance is finished.

Quote from: https://sangham.net/en/tipitaka/vin/mv/mv01/mv.01.24.khem

[Johann]

"Ironical" both, the western Punk-monks as well as the "right-wing"-left-monks deny that there is such as lineage, nissaya, necessary for an proper existence of a Sangha in this world, somehow thinking they can create all for them anews, having google and common creatives and copy-stolen as they "valid" foundation.

It seems to be merely impossible to heal the wounds and harm those who haven't left their former stands, home, had done toward the Gems.

It's total clear that the revolutionary motivated undertaking of a modern/western reformation of Sangha has naturally totally failed and what ever still seems to run, runs simply like a body full of cancer in it's last state.

Not a single act-able Sangha with intact basic right view and virtues can be traced.