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Like when enter or join, a shrine, another's sphere, or back: good for greating, bye, veneration, short talks, quick help. Some infos on regards .


2023 Jun 03 16:27:58
blazer: Checked time ago, i've seen somewhere translated as a person which is kind of equanimous, or something similar, as far as i can remember. Not finding the webpage right now

2023 Jun 03 15:28:13
Moritz: I think it's related to k'nyom (speaking out the "k" here), which means "I" and is used in normal colloquial language to speak of oneself. So not really sure how this relates to "former relative" etymologically.

2023 Jun 03 15:25:56
Moritz: I think "nyom" means something like "former relative", generally used by monks to address laypeople. Not really sure about the meaning in detail and where it could else be used. :)

2023 Jun 03 15:15:41
blazer: Good day to you Nyom Moritz  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 03 14:57:17
Moritz: Good day, Mr. blazer _/\_

2023 Jun 01 19:44:38
blazer: Sure

2023 Jun 01 19:33:23
Ruslan1: I'll make a post in your thread if you don't mind. Can do in a couple hours.

2023 Jun 01 19:25:50
blazer: It would be interesting to have a longer answer, maybe open a topic if needed

2023 Jun 01 19:22:41
Ruslan1: If i was to answer in short. It is a safe bet whereas taking chances with people is more of a risk.

2023 Jun 01 19:07:05
blazer: Nice quote Ruslan, thanks. But for which reasons it would be better for me to dwell alone instead than a monastery?

2023 Jun 01 18:58:17
Ruslan1: "It's not the case, Moggallana, that I praise association of every sort. But it's not the case that I dispraise association of every sort. I don't praise association with householders and renunciates. But as for dwelling places that are free from noise, free from sound, their atmosphere devoid of people, appropriately secluded for resting undisturbed by human beings: I praise association with dwelling places of this sort." -an7.58

2023 Jun 01 18:56:16
Ruslan1: All is good here Blazer, hope your retreat goes well. I would suggest spending time alone in nature instead of going to a monastery tho

2023 Jun 01 18:47:26
blazer: Hello everyone. Is it allright?

2023 Jun 01 03:07:46
Ruslan1: I don't know who is legally liable for the data management on this forum but i strongly advise whoever it is to run this forum in accord with laws governing such operation

2023 Jun 01 02:58:52
Ruslan1: Also keep in mind that this forum us not like DW, it doesn't have Section 230 (Com Decency Act) protection. I could sue you even without the GDPR as you are basically reviling me in public...

2023 May 30 18:06:53
Ruslan1: You have a month to comply before i file a complaint and pursue a ban on processing. Good day.

2023 May 30 17:38:31
Ruslan1: I don't accepts your giving me a guarantee, you keep that guarantee for yourself, it belongs to you Samana.

2023 May 30 08:31:41
Johann: Atma can give Nyom Ruslan a garantie that he will not fnd away to prevent himself from the lowers realms. A person guaranteed to destruction. Nobody can help a fool.

2023 May 29 16:31:55
Ruslan1: I've sent a "gdpr compliance request" to samana johann's sangham.net email, i used an email not registered to this account. I am posting here to confirm that it is a legitimate request.

2023 May 19 12:53:17
Johann: May all spend a blessing Uposatha New moon based on metta.

2023 May 15 18:40:18
Johann: Once uncontrolled emotions and angry birds have entered the fake liberation disguise, it's a quaranty that they even destroy their whole kind by increasing the killing and battle fields. Long is the pain for those approving wrong for a "good".

2023 May 14 22:19:00
Johann: Put into topic: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!

2023 May 14 22:16:22
Vilā: => សត្វទាំងឡាយមានកម្ម ជារបស់ខ្លន

2023 May 14 22:12:29
Johann: And what are the joys like snares? Release on joy in Sign is a snare, ...sound is a snare..., smell, taste, bodily touch, release by joy over ideas is a snare, leading to birth, aging, sickness, death and seperation, again and again.

2023 May 14 22:07:54
Vilā: ប្រសិនបើឃើញអន្ទាក់ថា ជាអន្ទាក់ហើយចេះដើរ ដោយសុវត្ថិភាព តាមវិធីរបស់ខ្លួន មានអីមិនល្អ?

2023 May 14 22:06:42
Vilā: ការបានរូចខ្លនពីអន្ទាក់ ជាភាពរីករាយ។ ពួកគេនឹងជាប់អន្ទាក់ដោយ សារឃើញនុយ ដែលចូលចិត្ត

2023 May 14 21:40:43
Johann: Every joy leads to certain release. But it's just right joy that leads toward lasting, right release.

2023 May 14 18:00:02
Vilā: មេឃងងឹត និងកំពុងភ្លៀង នៅភ្នំពេញ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 13 22:08:08
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 12 16:58:21
Johann: ...and ពិសាខ អដ្ថមី បូជា Atthamī Pūjā: The Day of the Buddha's Cremation

2023 May 12 07:26:55
Johann: A blessed Uposatha- observing this Sila-day.

2023 May 11 22:36:00
Johann: A great lesson, reminder, to reflect on sport by Nyom Gernot, once Atma still was a child: "If they would give out 22 balls on the soccer field, they would not need to fight over one." It might help Dhammika to see the dangers of games and sports.

2023 May 11 22:30:12
Johann: Not-knowing being the cause of wrong deeds, knowing so, how could a Dhammika ever have a thought like "this is an enemy". The Brahmaviharas don't have a place for 'but' and exclusion all around.

2023 May 09 14:38:28
Johann: Nyom Gernot

2023 May 09 14:37:32
Johann: Doubt that there isn't more sublime pleasure and peace to be found when going forth, living the Brahmacaria.

2023 May 09 14:36:31
Johann: The same: fear of losing sensual pleasure and arising of doubt, Nyom.

2023 May 09 14:28:04
Moritz: Hard to understand context. I will try to understand more later. Now must go back to work stress. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 09 14:12:54
Johann: Good to encourage Nyom Vila likewise she once did when doubts on the path in Nyom Moritz arose and he seeked to go back into the war zones of the world.

2023 May 09 14:11:09
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2023 May 09 14:09:07
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 05 21:18:00
Johann: Some moved there

2023 May 05 18:45:49
Vilā: 😒

2023 May 05 16:44:26
Johann: A man said: "The worst peace is better then war." Actually any peace isn't war. And violence for what ever reason can never be justified. That why the one putting away weapons always wins, not to speak of those follow him right after, right here and yet. How can one, for the sake of own ignorance, encourage even others to fight and kill and lead others to wrong doings and into hell. Violence is never overcome by violence, but by non-violence. This is an eternal law. The law of not giving any flame only a little fuel. Etena saccena suvatthi hotu. Ratana Sutta

2023 May 04 21:44:40
Johann: មុទិតា (shares moved here )

2023 May 04 21:12:32
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ កូណានៅលើវេរ៉ង់ដា ស្រឡះល្អ

2023 May 04 21:08:57
Johann: May all spend a peaceful and liberating Vesakh Puja Uposatha by means of letting go of desires to control the world of senses and dwell within the Brahma-realms.

2023 May 03 23:24:59
Johann: Global holocaust... not 'just' WW, initiated by "tech revolution" as means... May all strive consciously for what's beyond struggles and gains in this world, how ever ease it might still be perceived by most. May all, by their right choices, find and develop firm Refuge into the Gems, gain a footing toward the deathless timely.

2023 Apr 29 11:14:02
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 28 18:15:14
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila-day today, for those observing it today.

2023 Apr 28 09:45:18
blazer: good morning everyone

2023 Apr 27 11:32:09
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 27 11:15:08
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 27 06:10:57
Johann: A Blessed Sila-day by observing the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Apr 26 00:45:37
blazer: Very good reading, thank you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 25 15:25:49
Johann: To have the Khmer below also in English: Mangala Sutta , and mudita.

2023 Apr 25 11:55:49
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 25 11:51:13
Johann: As for Atma... enough (or say: die spinnen, die Römer)

2023 Apr 25 11:48:26
Johann: Yes, maybe some like to read about it...

2023 Apr 25 11:45:25
blazer: This is fantastic and more! It was great to see someone training in austerity, solitude, aiming for liberation, someone having some urgency to leave for a simple life. This encounter have left me a bit sleepless, many sensations and toughts have arisen. Will write a few lines soon.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 25 10:07:42
Johann: Fantastic of what one could perceive, could meet, isn't it...

2023 Apr 25 07:28:04
Johann: Mudita

2023 Apr 25 06:00:48
blazer: Just met a person, who is practicing renunciations, meditation, planning to depart for a solitary life, in contemplation, far from society, looking for liberation as final goal. Much good talk. Gave good inspiration.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 24 23:36:27
Johann: That's why they bow down to stones... those stones and images, or books aren't so 'violent' toward defilements.

2023 Apr 24 21:16:58
Vilā: សេចក្តីគោរពចំពោះបុគ្គលដែលគួរគោរព ១ ការប្រព្រឹត្តិបន្ទាបខ្លួន ១ សេចក្តីត្រេកអរចំពោះរបស់ដែលមាន ១ ភាពនៃបុគ្គលអ្នកដឹងឧបការគុណដែលអ្នកដទៃធ្វើដល់ខ្លួន ១ ការស្តាប់ធម៌តាមកាល ១ (ទាំង ៥) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។  សេចក្តីអត់ធន់ ១ ភាពនៃបុគ្គលដែលប្រដៅងាយ ១ ការបានឃើញ បានចួបសមណៈទាំងឡាយ ១ ធម្មសាកច្ឆាតាមកាល ១ (ទាំង ៤) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។  សេចក្តីព្យាយាមដុតបាបធម៌ ១ ការប្រព្រឹត្តិនូវធម៌ដ៏ប្រសើរ ១ ការឃើញនូវអរិយសច្ចទាំងឡាយ ១ ការធ្វើឲ្យជាក់ច្បាស់នូវព្រះនិព្វាន ១ (ទាំង ៤) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។

2023 Apr 24 21:13:56
Vilā: ចិត្តនៃបុគ្គលណា ដែលលោកធម៌ពាល់ត្រូវហើយ មិនរំភើបញាប់ញ័រ ១ មិនមានសេចក្តីសោក ១ មានធូលី គឺរាគៈ ទៅប្រាសហើយ ១ ចិត្តក្សេមក្សាន្ត ១ (ទាំង ៤) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។

2023 Apr 24 21:13:50
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 24 20:49:31
Johann: If it's not dead, or without any life, people are incapable to take as refuge. For how could they hold control over something not dead?

2023 Apr 23 10:52:23
blazer: Hello  _/\_

2023 Apr 20 19:43:00
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 20 18:52:30
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 20 06:13:14
Johann: And, as well today, for those conducting it today.

2023 Apr 19 13:17:12
Johann: A blessed New Moon Uposatha and ending of New Year fests.

2023 Apr 19 09:49:26
blazer:  _/\_ good morning everyone  _/\_

2023 Apr 13 11:10:07
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_

2023 Apr 13 10:16:55
Johann: Nyom. Good time for a good morning. Mudita

2023 Apr 13 10:13:00
blazer:  _/\_ Good morning  _/\_

2023 Apr 13 07:15:05
Johann: A blessed Sila-day by observing conducts in line with metta.

2023 Apr 09 19:52:37
Johann: There is a huge different between refuge in common creativity, open source, GNU, and the Community of Noble once, a huge: right or wrong view.

2023 Apr 09 01:07:08
Johann: Like a former leader of an large Asian country shortly encouraged his folk: if they withdraw from us, just copysteal all, organize a downloader and simply download it and share it for free.... Well than: may you find the way to happiness with ease by yourself. No slightest hope for any having fallen into the range of people with grave wrong view and deluded after pseudo-liberality (free plunder). Atma would say all for good here. No more need for it, because Sangha has gone.

2023 Apr 05 07:05:37
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 05 06:05:41
Johann: A harmless chinese ancestor day, really care of all.

2023 Apr 05 06:04:30
Johann: A blessed full-moon Uposatha by good conducts, remembering also former relatives.

2023 Apr 04 17:43:37
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Apr 04 13:34:41
Johann: Enough...

2023 Apr 03 11:36:05
blazer: Good morning  _/\_

2023 Apr 02 16:32:05
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ទឹកចិត្តឪពុក 😌

2023 Apr 02 07:28:20
Johann: Destroyed, cast off, killed that what nurished them, eaten off parents, no prosperity upwardly can be gained, path cut off.

2023 Apr 01 19:14:21
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 01 17:21:40
Johann: Nyom

2023 Apr 01 17:07:40
blazer: Good afternoon everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 01 12:05:40
Johann: "Rest in peace" where there isn't, is as harmful as running on the wrong path. Slowly, slowly, knowing steady oneself, step by step.

2023 Apr 01 12:02:58
Johann: Neither stopping (skilful) nor cramping (to do skilful), a long journey can be brought to it's end.

2023 Apr 01 10:14:01
Johann: ... "for free" ,for no benefit world, with no way out from open source, common creativity and public domain. Relay on real goodness seems to much liberating and consequently.

2023 Apr 01 10:10:32
Johann: That what people at large think as "free world" is the area where allowed to freely what's unskillful. Wheras in the "un-free world" peole are given to make whar ever skilful, free to do meritorious deeds. You wouldn't like the freedom of a intact world, would you? That's why caught in the "for free

2023 Apr 01 06:19:19
Johann: All done what's good. Remember the told. Duties done, no fault. Making oneself with Dhamma an island. Free to go, free to come, going on, or stay, how ever, when proper.

2023 Mar 31 23:07:49
Vilā: ព្រោះ​គ្មានអ្នកណាស្គាលខ្ននច្បាស់ ក្រៅពីខ្លនឯង។

2023 Mar 31 23:07:02
Vilā: កូណា​ធ្វើអ្វីមួយចេញពីចិត្ត មិនដែលចង់បានមុខមាត់អ្វី ទើបធ្វើ។ កូណាគិតថាមានគ្រូជាទីពឹង បើខ្លួនមិនទាន់ស្គាល់ផ្លូវច្បាស់ តែឥលូវមានតែដើរតាមផ្លូវរបស់ខ្លន

2023 Mar 31 22:59:32
Vilā: កូណាមិនអាចរកផ្លូវបដិបត្តិទៅមុខដោយវិធីដដែលនេះ នឿយហត់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Mar 31 00:47:30
Johann: 'Look at a day when you are supremely satisfied at the end. It’s not a day when you lounge around doing nothing; it’s when you’ve had everything to do and you’ve done it.' comment at Labor makes free .

2023 Mar 29 13:25:07
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Upanisa Sutta: Prerequisites

Dwelling at Savatthi... "Monks, the ending of the effluents is for one who knows & sees, I tell you, not for one who does not know & does not see. For one who knows what & sees what is there the ending of effluents? 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance. Such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance. Such is perception, such its origination, such its disappearance. Such are fabrications, such their origination, such their disappearance. Such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.' The ending of the effluents is for one who knows in this way & sees in this way.

"The knowledge of ending in the presence of ending has its prerequisite, I tell you. It is not without a prerequisite. And what is the prerequisite for the knowledge of ending? Release, it should be said. Release has its prerequisite, I tell you. It is not without a prerequisite. And what is its prerequisite? Dispassion... Disenchantment... Knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present... Concentration... Pleasure... Serenity... Rapture... Joy... Conviction... Stress... Birth... Becoming... Clinging... Craving... Feeling... Contact... The six sense media... Name-&-form... Consciousness... Fabrications... Fabrications have their prerequisite, I tell you. They are not without a prerequisite. And what is their prerequisite? Ignorance, it should be said.

"Thus fabrications have ignorance as their prerequisite, consciousness has fabrications as its prerequisite, name-&-form has consciousness as its prerequisite, the six sense media have name-&-form as their prerequisite, contact has the six sense media as its prerequisite, feeling has contact as its prerequisite, craving has feeling as its prerequisite, clinging has craving as its prerequisite, becoming has clinging as its prerequisite, birth has becoming as its prerequisite, stress & suffering have birth as their prerequisite, conviction has stress & suffering as its prerequisite, joy has conviction as its prerequisite, rapture has joy as its prerequisite, serenity has rapture as its prerequisite, pleasure has serenity as its prerequisite, concentration has pleasure as its prerequisite, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present has concentration as its prerequisite, disenchantment has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present as its prerequisite, dispassion has disenchantment as its prerequisite, release has dispassion as its prerequisite, knowledge of ending has release as its prerequisite.

"Just as when the gods pour rain in heavy drops & crash thunder on the upper mountains: The water, flowing down along the slopes, fills the mountain clefts & rifts & gullies. When the mountain clefts & rifts & gullies are full, they fill the little ponds. When the little ponds are full, they fill the big lakes. When the big lakes are full, they fill the little rivers. When the little rivers are full, they fill the big rivers. When the big rivers are full, they fill the great ocean. In the same way:

"Fabrications have ignorance as their prerequisite, consciousness has fabrications as its prerequisite, name-&-form has consciousness as their prerequisite, the six sense media have name-&-form as their prerequisite, contact has the six sense media as its prerequisite, feeling has contact as its prerequisite, craving has feeling as its prerequisite, clinging has craving as its prerequisite, becoming has clinging as its prerequisite, birth has becoming as its prerequisite, stress & suffering have birth as their prerequisite, conviction has stress & suffering as its prerequisite, joy has conviction as its prerequisite, rapture has joy as its prerequisite, serenity has rapture as its prerequisite, pleasure has serenity as its prerequisite, concentration has pleasure as its prerequisite, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present has concentration as its prerequisite, disenchantment has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present as its prerequisite, dispassion has disenchantment as its prerequisite, release has dispassion as its prerequisite, knowledge of ending has release as its prerequisite."
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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Upanisa Sutta: Grundvoraussetzungen

In Savatthi verweilend... "Bhikkhus, das Enden von Ausflüssen, ist für einen der weiß und sieht, sage ich Euch, nicht für einen der nicht weiß und nicht sieht. Für einen der was weiß und was sieht, ist da das Enden von Ausflüssen? 'So ist Form, so ihr Entstehen, so ihr Verschwinden. So ist Gefühl, so sein Entstehen, so sein Verschwinden. So ist Vorstellung, so sein Entstehen, so sein Verschwinden. So sind Gestaltungen, so ihr Entstehen, so ihr Verschwinden. So ist Bewußtsein, so sein Entstehen, so sein Verschwinden.' Das Enden von Ausflüssen, ist für einen der in dieser Weise weiß und in dieser Weise sieht.

"Das Wissen von Enden, in der Gegenwart von Enden, hat seine Grundvoraussetzung, sage ich Euch. Es ist nicht ohne eine Grundvoraussetzung. Und was ist die Grundvoraussetzung für das Wissen von Enden? Befreiung, sollte gesagt werden. Befreiung hat seine Grundvoraussetzung, sage ich Euch. Es ist nicht ohne eine Grundvoraussetzung. Und was ist seine Grundvoraussetzung? Nichtbegierde... Ernüchterung... Wissen und Vision, über Dinge so wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind... Konzentration... Wohl... Gestilltheit... Entzücken... Freude... Vertrauen... Streß... Geburt... Werden... Festhalten... Verlangen... Gefühl... Berührung... die sechs Sinnesträger... Name-und-Form... Bewußtsein... Gestaltungen... Gestaltungen haben deren Grundvoraussetzung. Und was ist deren Grundvoraussetzung? Unwissenheit, sollte gesagt werden.

"So haben Gestaltungen Unwissenheit als deren Grundvoraussetzung, Bewußtsein hat Gestaltungen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Name-und-Form hat Bewußtsein als seine Grundvoraussetzung, der sechs Sinnesträger hat Name-und Form als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Berührung hat den sechs Sinnesträger als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Gefühl hat Berührung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Verlangen hat Gefühl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Festhalten hat Verlangen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Werden hat Festhalten als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Geburt hat Werden als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Streß und Leiden hat Geburt als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Vertrauen hat Geburt als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Freude hat Vertrauen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Verzücken hat Freude als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Gestilltheit hat Verzücken als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Konzentration hat Wohl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, hat Ernüchterung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Nichtbegierde hat Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, als Grundvoraussetzung, Befreiung hat Nichtbegierde als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Wissen von Enden hat Befreiung als seine Grundvoraussetzung.

"Gerade so als ob Götter Regen in schweren Tropfen schütten und Donner schmettern, in den oberen Bergen: Füllt das Wasser, die Hänge hinunter fließend, der Berge Kluften und Spalten und Rinnen. Wenn der Berge Kluften und Spalten und Rinnen voll sind, füllen diese kleine Weiher. Wenn die kleinen Weiher voll sind, füllen diese die großen Seen. Wenn die großen Seen voll sind, füllen diese die kleinen Flüsse. Wenn die kleinen Flüsse voll sind, füllen diese die großen Flüsse. Wenn die großen Flüsse voll sind, füllen diese den großen Ozean. In selber Weise:

Gestaltungen haben Unwissenheit als deren Grundvoraussetzung, saṅkhārā

Bewußtsein hat Gestaltungen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, viññāṇa

Name-und-Form hat Bewußtsein seine Grundvoraussetzung, nāmarūpa

sechs Sinnesträger hat Name-und-Form als seine Grundvoraussetzung, saḷāyatana

Berührung hat sechs Sinnesträger als seine Grundvoraussetzung, phassa

Gefühl hat Berührung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, vedana

Verlangen hat Gefühl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, taṇha

Festhalten hat Verlangen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, upādāna

Werden hat Festhalten als seine Grundvoraussetzung, bhava

Geburt hat Werden als seine Grundvoraussetzung, jāti

Streß und Leiden hat Geburt als seine Grundvoraussetzung, dukkha

Vertrauen hat Streß und Leiden als seine Grundvoraussetzung, saddha

Freude hat Vertrauen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, pāmujja

Verzücken hat Freude als seine Grundvoraussetzung, pīti

Gestilltheit hat Verzücken als seine Grundvoraussetzung, passaddhi

Wohl hat Gestilltheit als seine Grundvoraussetzung, sukha

Konzentration hat Wohl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, samādhi

Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, hat Konzentration als seine Grundvoraussetzung, athābhūtañāṇadassana

Ernüchterung hat Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, als Grundvoraussetzung, nibbida

Nichtbegierde hat Ernüchterung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, virāga

Befreiung hat Nichtbegierde als seine Grundvoraussetzung, vimutti

Wissen von Enden hat Befreiung als seine Grundvoraussetzung. khaye ñāṇa"
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"Believe" is actually the most required prerequisite, not only to listen to the Dhamma but also to put an effort to get results you are not able to know for now.
It is a modern delusion that there is even any action (effort) without believing in first place and of cause such a beloved view was long time used to sell Dhamma of the Buddha to people in broad and use it as opposition to other religions.
The different is just, that you can put your believe at least to a prove which others mostly not can and they also lack of samples (people) who have reached the promised.
For some more understand of what actually believe (no need to quarrel about the certain word for it: following something what actually is not really known and seen now) you may read:
Faith In Awakening
Refuge: An Introduction to the Buddha, Dhamma, & Sangha
The Truth of Rebirth: And Why it Matters for Buddhist Practice
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A Look at the Kalama Sutta , by Bhikkhu Bodhi (1998; 4pp./12KB)
 
Some popular contemporary teachings claim that the Buddha advocates putting one's trust solely in what one can know and experience directly for oneself. In fact, when we take into careful consideration the context of this sutta, it becomes clear that this interpretation altogether misses a much more important point.
 
Altogether it's the root factor in the depending co-arising that leads to the end of suffering: Upanisa Sutta: Prerequisites   "...stress & suffering have birth as their prerequisite, conviction (saddha) has stress & suffering as its prerequisite, joy has conviction as its prerequisite...release has dispassion as its prerequisite, knowledge of ending has release as its prerequisite."
The condition that one has unshakable faith into Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha incl. virtue describes a person who has entered the stream and is already no more able to miss the finally aim. (DN 16 )
How ever, it also runs sometimes this way: "When this was said, Upaka said, 'May it be so, my friend,' and — shaking his head, taking a side-road — he left." (Ariyapariyesana Sutta: The Noble Search ) Circle of Life and suffering and the way out of it
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For a person facing Stress and suffering and meeting the Tripple Gems, there is no act of will, 'May I gain conviction'. It is the nature of things that in a person, facing Stress and suffering and facing the Tripple Gems, conviction is gained.

For a person with conviction, there is no act of will, 'May I be generous, may I have possibility to give, my I let go of stingyness'. It is in the nature of things that, in a person of conviction, generosity and giving is established.

For a person of generosity and freedom of stinginess, there is no act of will, 'May I become virtuous'. It is the nature of things that, in a person of generosity and freedom of stinginess, virtue increases.


Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Cetana Sutta: An Act of Will

"For a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue, there is no need for an act of will, 'May freedom from remorse arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that freedom from remorse arises in a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue.

"For a person free from remorse, there is no need for an act of will, 'May joy arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that joy arises in a person free from remorse.

"For a joyful person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May rapture arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that rapture arises in a joyful person.

"For a rapturous person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May my body be serene.' It is in the nature of things that a rapturous person grows serene in body.

"For a person serene in body, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I experience pleasure.' It is in the nature of things that a person serene in body experiences pleasure.

"For a person experiencing pleasure, there is no need for an act of will, 'May my mind grow concentrated.' It is in the nature of things that the mind of a person experiencing pleasure grows concentrated.

"For a person whose mind is concentrated, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I know & see things as they actually are.' It is in the nature of things that a person whose mind is concentrated knows & sees things as they actually are.

"For a person who knows & sees things as they actually are, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I feel disenchantment.' It is in the nature of things that a person who knows & sees things as they actually are feels disenchantment.

"For a person who feels disenchantment, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I grow dispassionate.' It is in the nature of things that a person who feels disenchantment grows dispassionate.

"For a dispassionate person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I realize the knowledge & vision of release.' It is in the nature of things that a dispassionate person realizes the knowledge & vision of release.

"In this way, dispassion has knowledge & vision of release as its purpose, knowledge & vision of release as its reward. Disenchantment has dispassion as its purpose, dispassion as its reward. Knowledge & vision of things as they actually are has disenchantment as its purpose, disenchantment as its reward. Concentration has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its purpose, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its reward. Pleasure has concentration as its purpose, concentration as its reward. Serenity has pleasure as its purpose, pleasure as its reward. Rapture has serenity as its purpose, serenity as its reward. Joy has rapture as its purpose, rapture as its reward. Freedom from remorse has joy as its purpose, joy as its reward. Skillful virtues have freedom from remorse as their purpose, freedom from remorse as their reward.

"In this way, mental qualities lead on to mental qualities, mental qualities bring mental qualities to their consummation, for the sake of going from the near to the Further Shore."

For a person with blessed birth, auspicious reappearing, is there no act of will, 'May I realize stress and suffering, may I meet the Tripple Gems.' It is tha nature of things, that a person with blessed birth, auspicious reappearing, sees suffering and stress, meets the Tripple Gems.

So is it, that Guest s birth, your reapearing, has the realization of stress and suffering and the meeting of the Tripple Gems as purpose, has realization of stress and suffering and the meeting of the Tripple Gems as its reward.

Who would - if seeing - waist a gifted (re)birth away? Would not train in conviction - gained by be-visioned - by it's fundations, at any time, on any place, and to recollect the Juwels to clean him/herself.
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Nyom Cheav Villa . As talked today about the conditioned Co-disappearing, while together with Nyom Sophoeun visiting. Here the Khmer translation (Book 31)

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

ឧបនិសសូត្រ ទី៣

[៦៨] ទ្រង់គង់នៅជិតក្រុងសាវត្ថី … ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា កិរិយា​អស់ទៅនៃអាសវៈ ចំពោះតែបុគ្គល ដែលដឹងច្បាស់ ឃើញច្បាស់ មិនពោលចំពោះ​បុគ្គល ដែល​មិនដឹងច្បាស់ មិនឃើញច្បាស់ទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះបុគ្គលកាលដឹងអ្វី កាលឃើញអ្វី ទើបមានការអស់ទៅនៃអាសវៈ។ បុគ្គលដឹង ឃើញថា រូប ដូច្នេះ ហេតុជាទី​កើតឡើងនៃរូបដូច្នេះ សេចក្តីរលត់នៃរូបដូច្នេះ។បេ។ វេទនាដូច្នេះ។បេ។ សញ្ញាដូច្នេះ។បេ។ សង្ខារទាំងឡាយដូច្នេះ។បេ។ វិញ្ញាណដូច្នេះ ហេតុជាទី​កើតឡើងនៃវិញ្ញាណដូច្នេះ សេចក្តីរលត់នៃវិញ្ញាណដូច្នេះ។បេ។  ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលកាលដឹងយ៉ាងនេះ កាលឃើញយ៉ាងនេះឯង ទើបមានការអស់ទៅនៃ​អាសវៈ។

[៦៩] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ កាលធម៌ [បានដល់អរហត្តផល។] ជាគ្រឿងអស់ទៅនៃអាសវៈ កើតឡើងហើយ ខយញ្ញាណ [សេចក្តីដឹងក្នុងធម៌ ជាគ្រឿង​អស់ទៅនៃអាសវៈ បានដល់បដិវេកញ្ញាណ។] ណា កើតឡើងដែរ តថាគតពោលថា ខយញ្ញាណ​នោះ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមានហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃ​ខយញ្ញាណ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា វិមុត្តិ គឺអរហត្តផល ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា វិមុត្តិ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃវិមុត្តិ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា វិរាគៈ គឺមគ្គ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា វិរាគៈ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមានហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃវិរាគៈ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា និព្វិទាញាណ គឺពលវវិបស្សនា [បានដល់ញាណទាំង៤ គឺភយតូបដ្ឋានញ្ញាណ១ អាទីនវានុបស្សនាញាណ១ មុញ្ចិតុកាម្យតាញាណ១ សង្ខារូបេក្ខាញាណ១។] ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា និព្វិទាញាណ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមានហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះ​ហេតុនៃនិព្វិទាញាណ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា យថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ គឺតរុណវិបស្សនា [បានដល់ញាណទាំង៤ គឺសង្ខារបរិច្ឆេទញ្ញាណ១ កង្ខាវិតរណញ្ញាណ១ សម្មសនញ្ញាណ១ មគ្គាមគ្គញ្ញាណ១ (អដ្ឋកថា)។] ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា យថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមានហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា សមាធិ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា សមាធិប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃសមាធិ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា សុខៈ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា សុខៈ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃសុខៈ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា បស្សទ្ធិ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា បស្សទ្ធិ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃបស្សទ្ធិ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា បីតិ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា បីតិ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃបីតិ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា បាមុជ្ជៈ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា បាមុជ្ជៈ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃបាមុជ្ជៈ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា សទ្ធា ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា សទ្ធា ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃសទ្ធា តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា ទុក្ខ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា ទុក្ខ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃទុក្ខ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា ជាតិ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា ជាតិ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃជាតិ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា ភព ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា ភព ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃភព តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា ឧបាទាន ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា ឧបាទាន ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃឧបាទាន តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា តណ្ហា ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា តណ្ហា ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃតណ្ហា តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា វេទនា ជាហេតុ។បេ។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា ផស្សៈ ជាហេតុ… គប្បីឆ្លើយថា សឡាយតនៈ ជាហេតុ… គប្បីឆ្លើយថា នាមរូប ជាហេតុ… គប្បីឆ្លើយថា វិញ្ញាណ ជាហេតុ… គប្បីឆ្លើយថា សង្ខារទាំងឡាយ ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ តថាគតពោលថា សង្ខារទាំងឡាយ ប្រកបដោយហេតុ មិនពោលថា មិនមាន​ហេតុទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះហេតុនៃសង្ខារទាំងឡាយ តើដូចម្តេច។ គប្បីឆ្លើយថា អវិជ្ជា ជាហេតុ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ សេចក្តីរួបរួមដូច្នេះ សង្ខារទាំងឡាយ មាន​អវិជ្ជាជាហេតុ វិញ្ញាណ មានសង្ខារជាហេតុ នាមរូប មានវិញ្ញាណជាហេតុ សឡាយតនៈ មាននាមរូបជាហេតុ ផស្សៈ មានសឡាយតនៈជាហេតុ វេទនា មានផស្សៈជាហេតុ តណ្ហា មាន​វេទនាជាហេតុ ឧបាទាន មានតណ្ហាជាហេតុ ភព មាន​ឧបាទានជាហេតុ ជាតិ មានភពជាហេតុ ទុក្ខ មានជាតិជាហេតុ សទ្ធា មានទុក្ខជាហេតុ បាមុជ្ជៈ មានសទ្ធាជាហេតុ បីតិ មានបាមុជ្ជៈជាហេតុ បស្សទ្ធិ មានបីតិជាហេតុ សុខៈ មានបស្សទ្ធិជាហេតុ សមាធិ មានសុខៈជាហេតុ យថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ មានសមាធិជាហេតុ និព្វិទាញាណ មានយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈជាហេតុ វិរាគៈ មាននិព្វិទាញាណជាហេតុ វិមុត្តិ មានវិរាគៈជាហេតុ ខយញ្ញាណ មានវិមុត្តិជាហេតុ។

[៧០] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ដូចទឹកភ្លៀងមានគ្រាប់ដ៏ថ្លោស បង្អុរចុះលើភ្នំ កាលទឹក​នោះ ហូរទៅកាន់ទីទាប រមែងញុំាងជ្រោះភ្នំ ក្រហែង និងប្រឡាយទឹកឲ្យពេញ កាលបើជ្រោះភ្នំ ក្រហែង និងប្រឡាយទឹកពេញហើយ រមែងញុំាងត្រពាំងតូចឲ្យពេញ កាលបើត្រពាំងតូចពេញហើយ រមែងញុំាងបឹងឲ្យពេញ កាលបើបឹងពេញហើយ រមែងញុំាងស្ទឹងឲ្យពេញ កាលបើស្ទឹងពេញហើយ រមែងញុំាងទន្លេឲ្យពេញ កាលបើទន្លេពេញហើយ រមែងញុំាងមហាសមុទ្រឲ្យពេញ យ៉ាងណាមិញ  ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ សង្ខារទាំងឡាយ មានអវិជ្ជាជាហេតុ វិញ្ញាណ មានសង្ខារជាហេតុ នាមរូប មានវិញ្ញាណជាហេតុ សឡាយតនៈ មាននាមរូបជាហេតុ ផស្សៈ មានសឡាយតនៈ​ជាហេតុ វេទនា មានផស្សៈជាហេតុ តណ្ហាមានវេទនាជាហេតុ ឧបាទាន មានតណ្ហាជាហេតុ ភព មានឧបាទានជាហេតុ ជាតិមានភពជាហេតុ ទុក្ខ មានជាតិជាហេតុ សទ្ធាមានទុក្ខជាហេតុ បាមុជ្ជៈ មានសទ្ធាជាហេតុ បីតិ មានបាមុជ្ជៈ​ជាហេតុ បស្សទ្ធិ មានបីតិជាហេតុ សុខៈ មានបស្សទ្ធិជាហេតុ សមាធិ មានសុខៈជាហេតុ យថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ មានសមាធិជាហេតុ និព្វិទាញាណ មានយថាភូតញ្ញាទស្សនៈ​ជាហេតុ វិរាគៈ មាននិព្វិទាញាណជាហេតុ វិមុត្តិ មានវិរាគៈជាហេតុ ខយញ្ញាណ មាន​វិមុត្តិជាហេតុ។ ចប់សូត្រទី៣។
Quote from: book 31

The supporting Cetana Sutta is found in Book 51.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

ចេតនាករណីយសូត្រ ទី២

[១០៩] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នកមានសីល​ បរិបូណ៌​ដោយសីល មិនគប្បី​ធ្វើដោយ​ចេតនា​ថា អវិប្បដិសារៈ ចូរកើត​ដល់​អាត្មាអញ ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ អវិប្បដិសារៈ តែង​កើតឡើង​ដល់បុគ្គល​អ្នក​មានសីល បរិបូណ៌​ដោយសីល នេះជា​ធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​អ្នកមិន​មាន​វិប្បដិសារៈ មិនគប្បី​ធ្វើដោយ​ចេតនា​ថា បាមុជ្ជៈ ចូរកើតឡើង​ដល់​អាត្មាអញ​ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាល​ភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បាមុជ្ជៈ តែងកើត​ឡើងដល់​បុគ្គល​អ្នកមិន​មាន​វិប្បដិសារៈ នេះ​ជាធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​អ្នកមាន​បាមុជ្ជៈ មិនគប្បី​ធ្វើដោយ​ចេតនាថា បីតិ ចូរ​កើតឡើង​ដល់អាត្មាអញ​ដូច្នេះ​ទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បីតិ តែងកើត​ឡើងដល់​បុគ្គល​មាន​បាមុជ្ជៈ នេះជា​ធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​មានបីតិ​ចិត្ត មិនគប្បី​ធ្វើដោយ​ចេតនាថា កាយ​របស់​អាត្មាអញ ចូរស្ងប់រម្ងាប់ ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ កាយ​របស់បុគ្គល​មាន​បីតិចិត្ត តែង​ស្ងប់រម្ងាប់ នេះ​ជាធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នក​មាន​កាយប្បស្សទ្ធិ មិនគប្បី​ធ្វើដោយ​ចេតនាថា អាត្មាអញ​ទទួល​សេចក្តីសុខ​ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​មាន​កាយប្បស្សទ្ធិ តែង​ទទួល​សេចក្តីសុខ នេះជាធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នក​មានសេចក្តី​សុខ មិនគប្បី​ធ្វើ​ដោយ​ចេតនាថា ចិត្តរបស់​អាត្មាអញ ចូរតាំង​មាំដូច្នេះ​ទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ ចិត្តរបស់​បុគ្គល​អ្នកមាន​សេចក្តី​សុខ តែង​តាំងមាំ នេះជា​ធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​អ្នកមាន​សមាធិចិត្ត មិនគប្បី​ធ្វើ​ដោយចេតនា​ថា អាត្មាអញ​ដឹង អាត្មាអញ​ឃើញតាមពិត​ ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​មាន​សមាធិចិត្ត តែងដឹង តែងឃើញ​តាមពិត នេះជា​ធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​កាលដឹង កាលឃើញ​តាមពិត មិន​គប្បីធ្វើ​ដោយ​ចេតនាថា អាត្មាអញ​នឿយណាយ​ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​កាលដឹង កាលឃើញ​តាមពិត តែង​នឿយណាយ នេះជា​ធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​នឿយណាយ មិន​គប្បីធ្វើ​ដោយ​ចេតនាថា អាត្មាអញ ប្រាសចាក​តម្រេក​ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​នឿយណាយ ប្រាសចាក​តម្រេក នេះជាធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​អ្នកមាន​ចិត្តប្រាសចាក​តម្រេក មិនគប្បីធ្វើ​ដោយ​ចេតនាថា អាត្មាអញ ធ្វើឲ្យជាក់​ច្បាស់ នូវ​វិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ដូច្នេះទេ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល​អ្នក​ប្រាសចាក​តម្រេក តែង​ធ្វើឲ្យ​ជាក់ច្បាស់​នូវ​វិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ នេះ​ជាធម្មតា។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ វិរាគៈ មាន​វិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មាន​វិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ជា​អានិសង្ស និព្វិទា មាន​វិរាគៈ​ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មានវិរាគៈ​ជា​អានិសង្ស យថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ មាន​និព្វិទា ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មាន​និព្វិទា ជា​អានិសង្ស សមាធិ មាន​យថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មាន​យថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ជា​អានិសង្ស សុខៈ មាន​សមាធិ ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មាន​សមាធិ ជា​អានិសង្ស បស្សទ្ធិ មានសុខៈ ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មានសុខៈ​ជាអានិសង្ស បីតិ មាន​បស្សទ្ធិ ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មាន​បស្សទ្ធិ​ជា​អានិសង្ស បាមុជ្ជៈ មាន​បីតិ​ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មានបីតិ ជា​អានិសង្ស អវិប្បដិសារៈ មាន​បាមុជ្ជៈ ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មានបាមុជ្ជៈ ជា​អានិសង្ស សីល​ទាំង​ឡាយ​ជាកុសល មាន​អវិប្បដិសារៈ ជា​ប្រយោជន៍ មាន​អវិប្បដិសារៈ ជា​អានិសង្ស ដោយ​ប្រការ​ដូច្នេះ​ឯង។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ ធម៌​ទាំងឡាយ តែងញុំាង​ធម៌ទាំងឡាយ ឲ្យប្រព្រឹត្ត​ទៅ ធម៌​ទាំងឡាយ តែងញុំាង​ធម៌ទាំងឡាយ ឲ្យ​បរិបូណ៌ ដើម្បី​ចេញ​អំពីទី​មិនមែន​ជាត្រើយ ទៅកាន់​ត្រើយ គឺ​ព្រះនិញ្វន ដោយ​ប្រការដូច្នេះ។
Quote from: book51

May it be for Nyom's and Nyom's release and maybe Nyom find ways how Nyom Sopheoun could access here.
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Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Kana Bhante, Kana will try and Now sent her already.

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Calmness
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2022, 10:53:14 AM »
Maybe i got insights about calmness, could you please provide appropriate readings?
Informative, motivational?
Thank you


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Atma merged it into a topic that will explain the reason why right clamness, passaddhi, arises, the causes and conditions, as it's already element of the path beyond, Nyom blazer .

Saddha (fullfilment of Sila, surrender, stopping to take control of all on the senses, in the world) is reason for the paths devolopment, it's cause is seeing Dukkha. Letting off that of which isn't own, joy arises, satisfied arise, calm arises.... well-being, concentration...
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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa


sut.an.11.003 | book_051

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[១១០] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នកទ្រុស្តសីល វិបត្តិចាកសីល តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈ មិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបាមុជ្ជៈ កាលបើបាមុជ្ជៈមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកបាមុជ្ជៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបីតិ កាលបើបីតិមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកបីតិ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបស្សទ្ធិ កាលបើបស្សទ្ធិមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកបស្សទ្ធិ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសុខៈ កាលបើសុខៈមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកសុខៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសម្មាសមាធិ កាលបើសម្មាសមាធិមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកសម្មាសមាធិ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ កាលបើយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ មិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃនិព្វិទា កាលបើនិព្វិទាមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកនិព្វិទា តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃវិរាគៈ កាលបើវិរាគៈមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកវិរាគៈ តែងសាបសូន្យ ចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ដូចជាដើមឈើ ដែលប្រាសចាកមែក និងស្លឹកហើយ ក្រមររបស់ឈើនោះក្តី ក៏មិនដល់នូវការពេញលេញ សម្បកក្តី ស្រាយក្តី ខ្លឹមក្តី ក៏មិនដល់នូវការពេញលេញ យ៉ាងណាមិញ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលទ្រុស្តសីល វិបត្តិចាកសីល តែងសាបសូន្យ ចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈ មិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងសាបសូន្យ ចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ។ បេ។ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ក៏យ៉ាងនោះដែរ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នកមានសីល បរិបូណ៌ដោយសីល តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃបាមុជ្ជៈ កាលបើបាមុជ្ជៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយបាមុជ្ជៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបីតិ កាលបើបីតិមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយបីតិ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបស្សទ្ធិ កាលបើបស្សទ្ធិ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយបស្សទ្ធិ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសុខៈ កាលបើសុខៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយសុខៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសម្មាសមាធិ កាលបើសម្មាសមាធិ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយសម្មាសមាធិ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ កាលបើយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃនិព្វិទា កាលបើនិព្វិទា មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយនិព្វិទា តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃវិរាគៈ កាលបើវិរាគៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយវិរាគៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ប្រៀបដូចដើមឈើ ដែលបរិបូណ៌ដោយមែក និងស្លឹកហើយ ក្រមររបស់ឈើនោះក្តី ដល់នូវការពេញលេញ សម្បកក្តី ស្រាយក្តី ខ្លឹមក្តី ក៏ដល់នូវការពេញលេញ យ៉ាងណាមិញ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នកមានសីល បរិបូណ៌ដោយសីល តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ។បេ។ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ក៏យ៉ាងនោះដែរ។

Paṭhama - upanisasuttaṁ

First that rests on (strong) causes (Upanissaya, strong ground/foundation)

[3] Bhikkhus, to the unvirtuous, gone wrong in virtues, the cause for non-remorse is destroyed. When there is remorse, gone wrong in non-remorse the cause for delight is destroyed. When there is no delight, gone wrong in delight, the cause for joy is destroyed. When there is no joy, gone wrong in joy, the cause for tranquillity is destroyed. When there is no tranquillity, gone wrong in tranquillity, the cause for pleasantness is destroyed. When there is no pleasantness, gone wrong in pleasantness, the cause for right concentration is destroyed. When there is no right concentration, gone wrong in right concentration, the cause for knowledge and vision of seeing things as they really are, is destroyed. When there is no knowledge and vision of seeing things as they really are, gone wrong in the knowledge and vision of seeing things as they really are, the cause for turning away is destroyed. When there is no turning away, gone wrong in turning away the cause for disenchantment is destroyed. When there is no disenchantment, gone wrong in disenchantment, the cause for knowledge and vision of release is destroyed.

Bhikkhus, like the shoots, bark, accessory wood and heart wood, of a tree that has lost its branches and leaves, would not grow completely, in the same manner to the unvirtuous gone wrong in virtues, the cause for non-remorse is destroyed. When there is remorse, gone wrong in non-remorse the cause for delight is destroyed … re … knowledge and vision of release is destroyed.

Bhikkhus, to the virtuous, when complete in virtues, there is no remorse. When there is no remorse, it is the cause for delight. When there is delight, to the delighted there is joy. When there is joy, to the joyful there is tranquillity. When there is tranquillity, to the tranquilled there is pleasantness. When there is pleasantness, to the pleasant one, there is right concentration. When there is right concentration, to the concentrated there is knowledge and vision of things as they really are. To someone with knowledge and vision of things as they really are, there is turning away. To one who has turned away there is disenchantment. To one disenchanted there is knowledge and vision of release. Bhikkhus, like shoots, bark, accessory wood and heart wood, of a tree with branches and leaves, would grow completely in the same manner to the virtuous, when complete in virtues, there is non-remorse … re … there is knowledge and vision of release.

(virtue can be replaced by Refuge, Saddha [surrender] or Satipathana as well)

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Byasanasuttaṁ Ruinous

[6] Bhikkhus, it is not possible for the bhikkhu who scolds, rebukes and finds fault with the noble co-associates in the holy life not to come to one or the other of these eleven ruinous situations. What eleven?

Not attain the not yet attained, degrade from the already attained, not get the purification in the training, or become conceited in the Teaching, or live the holy life with dislike, or become defiled on account of some fault, or fall from the training and come to lay life, or to be assailed by some serious illness, or his mind to be deranged or die deluded. Or after death be born in loss, in decrease, in hell.

Bhikkhus, these are the eleven ruinous situations of which are not possible for the bhikkhu who scolds, rebukes and finds fault with the noble co-associates in the holy life not to come to one or the other.

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(៦. ព្យសនសុត្តំ)

[១១៣] ព្រះអង្គទ្រង់ត្រាស់ថា ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ភិក្ខុដែលតិះដៀលព្រះអរិយៈ ជេរប្រទេចពួកភិក្ខុជាសព្រហ្មចារី ហើយមិនគប្បីដល់នូវសេចក្តីវិនាសទាំង ១១ យ៉ាង ណាមួយ នុ៎ះមិនមែនជាហេតុ មិនមែនជាបច្ច័យឡើយ។ សេចក្តីវិនាសទាំង ១១ យ៉ាង តើអ្វីខ្លះ។ គឺមិនបាននូវគុណវិសេស ដែលខ្លួនមិនទាន់បាន ១ សាបសូន្យចាកគុណវិសេសដែលខ្លួនបានហើយ ១ ព្រះសទ្ធម្មរបស់ភិក្ខុនោះ មិនផូរផង់ ១ ប្រកបដោយសេចក្តីស្មានថា បានក្នុងព្រះសទ្ធម្ម ១ មិនត្រេកអរនឹងប្រព្រឹត្តព្រហ្មចរិយៈ ១ ត្រូវអាបត្តិណាមួយដ៏សៅហ្មង ១ លះបង់សិក្ខា ហើយត្រឡប់មកដើម្បីភេទថោកទាប ១ ប៉ះនឹងរោគធ្ងន់ខ្លាំង ១ ដល់នូវការឆ្កួត រវើរវាយចិត្ត ១ ធ្វើកាលកិរិយាទាំងវង្វេង ១ លុះបែកធ្លាយរាងកាយស្លាប់ទៅ ទៅកើតក្នុងអបាយ ទុគ្គតិ វិនិបាត នរក ១។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ភិក្ខុដែលតិះដៀលព្រះអរិយៈ ជេរប្រទេចពួកភិក្ខុជាសព្រហ្មចារី ហើយមិនគប្បីដល់នូវសេចក្តីវិនាសទាំង ១១ យ៉ាងណាមួយ នុ៎ះមិនមែនជាហេតុ មិនមែនជាបច្ច័យឡើយ។

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And off course, of cause, there is also the common depending-co-decay, the path of getting lost and caught:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa



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(៣. បឋមឧបនិសាសុត្តំ)


Oh Bhikkhus! A person acting against Sila, abounds Sila (right conduct, custom), for him freedom from remorse is lost, Upanissaya (strong foundation, relation) toward freedom from remorse is lost.When freedom from remorse disappears, for a person who's freedom from remose is lost, Upanissaya toward pāmojja (joy, beyond sense) is lost...release is lost.

[១១០] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នកទ្រុស្តសីល វិបត្តិចាកសីល តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈ មិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបាមុជ្ជៈ កាលបើបាមុជ្ជៈមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកបាមុជ្ជៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបីតិ កាលបើបីតិមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកបីតិ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបស្សទ្ធិ កាលបើបស្សទ្ធិមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកបស្សទ្ធិ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសុខៈ កាលបើសុខៈមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកសុខៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសម្មាសមាធិ កាលបើសម្មាសមាធិមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកសម្មាសមាធិ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ កាលបើយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ មិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃនិព្វិទា កាលបើនិព្វិទាមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកនិព្វិទា តែងសាបសូន្យចាកឧបនិស្ស័យនៃវិរាគៈ កាលបើវិរាគៈមិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកវិរាគៈ តែងសាបសូន្យ ចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ដូចជាដើមឈើ ដែលប្រាសចាកមែក និងស្លឹកហើយ ក្រមររបស់ឈើនោះក្តី ក៏មិនដល់នូវការពេញលេញ សម្បកក្តី ស្រាយក្តី ខ្លឹមក្តី ក៏មិនដល់នូវការពេញលេញ យ៉ាងណាមិញ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលទ្រុស្តសីល វិបត្តិចាកសីល តែងសាបសូន្យ ចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈ មិនមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកវិបត្តិចាកអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងសាបសូន្យ ចាកឧបនិស្ស័យ។ បេ។ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ក៏យ៉ាងនោះដែរ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នកមានសីល បរិបូណ៌ដោយសីល តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃបាមុជ្ជៈ កាលបើបាមុជ្ជៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយបាមុជ្ជៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបីតិ កាលបើបីតិមាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយបីតិ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃបស្សទ្ធិ កាលបើបស្សទ្ធិ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយបស្សទ្ធិ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសុខៈ កាលបើសុខៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយសុខៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃសម្មាសមាធិ កាលបើសម្មាសមាធិ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយសម្មាសមាធិ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ កាលបើយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយយថាភូតញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃនិព្វិទា កាលបើនិព្វិទា មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយនិព្វិទា តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃវិរាគៈ កាលបើវិរាគៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយវិរាគៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ប្រៀបដូចដើមឈើ ដែលបរិបូណ៌ដោយមែក និងស្លឹកហើយ ក្រមររបស់ឈើនោះក្តី ដល់នូវការពេញលេញ សម្បកក្តី ស្រាយក្តី ខ្លឹមក្តី ក៏ដល់នូវការពេញលេញ យ៉ាងណាមិញ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលអ្នកមានសីល បរិបូណ៌ដោយសីល តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យនៃអវិប្បដិសារៈ កាលបើអវិប្បដិសារៈ មាន បុគ្គលអ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយអវិប្បដិសារៈ តែងបរិបូណ៌ដោយឧបនិស្ស័យ។បេ។ នៃវិមុត្តិញ្ញាណទស្សនៈ ក៏យ៉ាងនោះដែរ។
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