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2023 Sep 22 22:07:43
Johann: If no rush turn toward reducing sensuality and make Silas the top of priority, it's to fear that an Atomic conflic will be chosen soon, in the battle of control of the "drugs".

2023 Sep 22 14:59:39
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 22 06:35:51
Johann: A blessed Uposatha Observance on this Sila-day, by conducting similar the Arahats.

2023 Sep 16 19:29:27
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 16 19:29:13
blazer: Hello everyone! I've just come back home. I had a long trip and no sleep for more than 30 hours, but currently feel quite good. I've had a good experience, i'm happy. I've found out much inspiration and many ideas about the training and the holy life. I'll recollect and write about them as soon as i've taken some rest. Hope to find you all well and in good health  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 15 05:25:24
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 14 21:09:49
Johann: A blessed rest of New moon Uposatha today (later as no connection before).

2023 Sep 10 01:55:47
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Sep 09 18:52:54
Johann: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 09 18:52:28
Johann: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 08 06:19:20
Johann: A blessed Sila day, by maintaining goodwill toward all, not only by deeds and speech, but with nine factors, incl. a mind full of metta.

2023 Sep 01 10:54:43
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 01 09:21:09
Johann:  “This verse was stated by earlier worthy ones, fully self-awakened:    Freedom from disease: the foremost good fortune. Unbinding: the foremost ease. The eightfold: the foremost of paths going to the Deathless, Secure.

2023 Sep 01 09:19:23
Johann: 'Ārogyaparamā lābhā nibbānaṃ paramaṃ sukhaṃ, Aṭṭhaṅgiko ca maggānaṃ khemaṃ amatagāmina'nti.   អារោគ្យបរមា លាភា និព្ពានំ បរមំ សុខំ អដ្ថងិកោ ច មគ្គានំ ខេមំ អមតគាមិន នតិ។  លាភទាំងឡាយ មានការមិនមានរោគ ដ៏ប្រសើរបំផុត ព្រះនិព្វាន ជាសុខដ៏ឧត្តម មគ្គប្រកបដោយអង្គ៨ ដ៏ក្សេមក្សាន្តជាងមគ្គទាំងឡាយ សម្រាប់ដំណើរ ទៅកាន់​ព្រះនិព្វាន ឈ្មោះអមតៈ។

2023 Aug 31 06:30:11
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 31 06:08:15
Johann: A blessed Fullmoon Uposatha, following the Arahats conducts.

2023 Aug 30 20:19:25
Johann: Nyom

2023 Aug 30 18:39:38
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 19:56:43
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu and mudita

2023 Aug 24 19:45:08
No Name: កូណា បាននាំគ្រួសាររក្សាសីល8ក្នុងថ្ងៃនេះ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_😌

2023 Aug 24 18:31:04
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 18:08:32
Johann: Message in the morning didn't arise... so a later: blessed rest of a good conducted Sila day.

2023 Aug 16 10:26:38
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 16 06:39:11
Johann: A blessed, peaceful, New Moon Uposatha, caused by metta-Citta.

2023 Aug 09 10:02:14
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 09 06:08:53
Johann: May all spend a blessed Sila day by observing the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Aug 02 19:15:32
Johann: May all Venerables have found a. suitable place for this Vassa, conductive for the sake of the deathless, and may all dwell conflictless, supported by admirable friends.

2023 Aug 01 13:39:35
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 01 07:03:18
Johann: A blesser Asalha-Puja, Dhamma day Full moon Uposatha. May all Venerables have found, find, a perfect place for their victorious Vassa. May all spend a blessend Uposatha and nobody get hurt on the lanes of rushing travels.

2023 Jul 26 18:11:11
Johann: May all spend a blessed rest of Sila-day today.

2023 Jul 24 18:01:06
blazer: For sure it would be! I've found good of having allayed the pain and being able to move

2023 Jul 23 17:40:26
Johann: A finally good news would be declaring of patgs and fruit attainments, with Arahataphalla as peak.

2023 Jul 23 17:39:09
Johann: Finally?  :)

2023 Jul 23 09:44:43
blazer: Thanks Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Finally i have a few good news. Will write about tomorrow

2023 Jul 22 19:41:41
Johann: A good time, and so a good morning, Nyom.

2023 Jul 22 09:12:47
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 20 20:20:43
Johann: Any further open doubts and questions?

2023 Jul 17 21:48:01
Johann: Periodicaly again the urge to do not relay on social medias and to concentrate doing the tasks very bodily on the earth, avoiding the lure of debtless consume and seek to know goodness and just take on what's personal given for good purpose, away from hidden trades and traps. People denying goodness and/or don't know how to pay back and toward whom, simple run crazy and after a while into all kinds of amok.

2023 Jul 17 06:10:00
Johann: A blesed New-moon Uposatha today.

2023 Jul 11 22:05:20
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila-Day today.

2023 Jul 10 23:09:42
blazer: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 10 16:32:58
Johann: Mudita

2023 Jul 10 03:32:09
blazer: I'm going to contact the forest monastery soon

2023 Jul 04 19:13:24
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 03 06:27:07
Johann: Likewise those observing the Uposatha today.

2023 Jul 02 05:55:14
Johann: A blessed full-moon Uposatha, by observing the nine-fold Uposath, starting with Metta.

2023 Jul 01 17:27:14
Jieshi Shan: Starlink has just passed over my head

2023 Jun 26 13:25:42
Johann: Nyom

2023 Jun 26 11:33:47
blazer: Good morning  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 26 06:23:22
Johann: And those conducting the observance today: may it be well done.

2023 Jun 25 11:16:30
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 25 09:03:52
Johann: A blessed Sila day, those conducting it today.

2023 Jun 23 08:50:50
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 21 14:32:05
blazer: It is hard to practice here. I'm in a place where i can get virtually anything in just a few minutes. And ads and distractions are everywhere. And people are so defiled so i have to carefully calibrate social interactions.

2023 Jun 21 13:44:56
Johann: It's not possible to gain Dhamma as long holding stand, home. Once elevating above sensuality, clearance can be gained.

2023 Jun 21 13:20:27
blazer: I'm sorry but i'm not understanding perfectly. How can i ask him for the best further way if he is not reachable directly? And what is meant by "best further way"?  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 21 13:19:05
blazer: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 20 17:42:55
Johann: Btw., if your Noble teacher might be no more in reach directly, once you make an effort toward the Brahmas, devoted to the Gems, you might get the chance to ask him about the best further way (note that an Noble Brahma, of cource, would serve lazy or not serious approaches).

2023 Jun 20 17:16:43
Johann: Some may wonder why the Sublime Buddha heavily rebuked monks when they teached the Dhamma of the Ariya, to those not prepeared yet... Once people have gained this Dhamma in wrong way or at wrong time, without favor toward renouncing and or Samvega, they are hardly ever able to gain it right, mostly closed up the door by their unwise ways and approach.

2023 Jun 18 15:32:24
blazer: Good afternoon  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 18 05:55:13
Johann: Likewise, a blessed Uposatha those who observe it today.

2023 Jun 18 00:45:56
blazer: Good to remember, greediness of results becomes a problem in these situations. Thank you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 17 21:22:34
Johann: See how close he is!

2023 Jun 17 13:04:43
blazer: How can i find such a teacher or an admirable friend right now?

2023 Jun 17 13:00:41
blazer: was not going out since a week because pain, wanted to give a try.

2023 Jun 17 13:00:01
blazer: im very in pain. Went out yesterday evening.

2023 Jun 17 12:51:01
Johann: Nyom, seek to live next a teacher, next admirable friends.

2023 Jun 17 12:27:12
blazer: obviously related to the last post

2023 Jun 17 12:14:49
blazer: I gone out in the evening after a week at home and i'm very hungry, it can be an impedment now and  later. Had to eat yogurt. Should i avoid solid food for good concentration?

2023 Jun 17 12:10:26
blazer: Please may Ven. Johann, if there, answer soon my new post  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 17 12:08:02
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ good news today

2023 Jun 17 06:21:43
Johann: A blessed New-moon Uposatha, based on metta, all who observe it today.

2023 Jun 11 21:47:12
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 11 20:42:00
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila day, by observing metta toward all beings, by thoughts and deeds.

2023 Jun 11 20:00:38
Johann: Nyom

2023 Jun 11 17:02:02
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 11 16:12:49
Johann: There isn't anyone who wouldn't be invited "to come and see" once willing to leave stand, home. For non it wouldn't be of much benefit to give even just a little toward the Gems. Yet less would take on occasion, preferring collecting for a stand, house, when ever access and feeling 'worthy' of it.

2023 Jun 10 20:22:50
Moritz: Best wishes to everyone _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 09 11:29:00
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 08 20:13:52
{removed name}1: Johann,why not invite your wife and children to join the forum?

2023 Jun 08 14:23:34
blazer: Hello  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 08 14:19:07
Moritz: Hello _/\_

2023 Jun 07 16:39:04
blazer: Bhante Johann, very happy to read you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 07 16:35:51
{removed name}1: Whoever is defiled And devoid of self-control and truth, Yet wears the saffron robe, Is unworthy of the saffron robe.

2023 Jun 07 16:30:42
{removed name}1: Rain in Vienna... Any plans to go back to homecountry?

2023 Jun 07 16:29:17
{removed name}1: Hello Atma how are you doing today? Enjoying your holiday in Cambodia?

2023 Jun 07 16:20:57
{removed name}1: Not by shaven head does a man who is indisciplined and untruthful become a monk

2023 Jun 07 16:17:56
{removed name}1: One is not a monk just because one begs from others. Nor does one become a monk by taking on domestic ways.

2023 Jun 07 16:13:41
{removed name}1: Happy 6th industrial revolution everyone🙏

2023 Jun 07 15:27:16
Johann: Else: Atma can only encourage to move the domain back into khema areas of as well as one self, for there in is no future for this people of grave wrong view and wouldn't like anybody to have burdens with lost fools. One can just leave them up to their fixed destination.

2023 Jun 07 15:14:45
Johann: ញោម "Nyom", ñoma - Ursprung bzw. Bedeutung , maybe of help, Nyom, Nyom.

2023 Jun 05 12:44:17
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_

2023 Jun 03 16:27:58
blazer: Checked time ago, i've seen somewhere translated as a person which is kind of equanimous, or something similar, as far as i can remember. Not finding the webpage right now

2023 Jun 03 15:28:13
Moritz: I think it's related to k'nyom (speaking out the "k" here), which means "I" and is used in normal colloquial language to speak of oneself. So not really sure how this relates to "former relative" etymologically.

2023 Jun 03 15:25:56
Moritz: I think "nyom" means something like "former relative", generally used by monks to address laypeople. Not really sure about the meaning in detail and where it could else be used. :)

2023 Jun 03 15:15:41
blazer: Good day to you Nyom Moritz  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 03 14:57:17
Moritz: Good day, Mr. blazer _/\_

2023 Jun 01 19:44:38
blazer: Sure

2023 Jun 01 19:33:23
{removed name}1: I'll make a post in your thread if you don't mind. Can do in a couple hours.

2023 Jun 01 19:25:50
blazer: It would be interesting to have a longer answer, maybe open a topic if needed

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Not only for Cambodians, but generally interessting and used in the Dhamma - Vinaya Tradition which is common nearly forgotten or simply unknown. Very needed in regard of counting the Uposatha days.
Simple methods known by the elders till today.





Cambodians use two types of calendars: the international calendar for civil purposes and the traditional calendar for religious purposes. Although called Chhankitek, which means lunar calendar, Khmer traditional calendar is a lunisolar calendar similar to some of the Hindu calendars and the Chinese calendar.

The goal of this research is to create a create a computer program that can display the Khmer calendar for different years. With the recently published Khmer books on Khmer calendar by Mr. Kim Soeun Roath (ksroath@yahoo.com) (ប្រតិទិនសុរិយគតិ-ចន្ទគតិ ពីគ.ស១៩០០ ដល់ គ.ស១៩៩៩ និង គ.ស២០០០ ដល់ គ.ស២០៩៩ ដោយ លោក រាត់ គឹមសឿន), the mechanics of the Khmer calendar system can be unveiled. The book "អត្តាឡើងស័កនិងមហាសង្ក្រាន្ត" by the same author also shows the calculation of the Khmer new year songkran.



Khmer Date Utility: Acient Way of Counting Age
Find animal year from your age:

The 12 orange dots are the different positions used in this method. The animal years are positioned for the year of Roka (2005). This varies from year to year. The current animal year starts at brown arrow (second knuckle of your pointing finger) and counts clockwise to the successive years. The green flower star is where you start if the age is at least 10 years old or else start at the blue star marked as 1 going counter clockwise.

    Start counting from the tip of the pointing finger (green flower star) clockwise every second position. You count just the multiple of ten such as 10, 20, 30, and 40 until it reaches the ten digit of a specific age. As an example, for 35, I would count 10, 20, and then 30.
    If the age is a multiple of ten, that was your final position. Or else continue from the current position by counting backward (counter clockwise) one position at a time until it reaches a specific age. So for the 35, from my early position, I count counter clockwise 31, 32, 33, 34, and then 35 arriving at the dot marked 11 Jor.
    The last step is to determine what animal belongs to that final position. Start counting the current year animal at the brown arrow *. Count clockwise until it reaches your final position. That is the birth animal year for that age.

*Notes: This method has been modified. The original method is to start positioning the year at the blue star (lowest point of your pointing finger). But this missed by one year; so to make it works I move the start position up to the brown arrow.



Find your age from the animal year:

Age  Count

10   10
20   8
30   6
40   4
50   2
60   12
70   10
80   8
90   6
100  4

This assumes that you have some idea of how old you are in a range of 10 years. Use the table on the right to determine how many count to use for a specific age.

    Use your multiple of ten of your age to determine the count. Example, for the age around 30, the count is 6.
    Start from your animal year and count to the successive animal year for the number of time found in step 1. Example, assume I was born on the year of Dog (Jor) and I am around 30. So I would count 6 times as Kaor, Jute, Chlov, Karl, Thos, and Rorng. Notice I didn't count Jor as 1 but count Koar, the next year instead.
    Now use your finger to keep track of the count, and continue until you reach the current year. The final count is added to your multiple of ten of your age. Example: Continue from step 2, I would count, Masagn as 1, Momee as 2, Momay as 3, Voke as 4, and Roka as 5. If the current year is Roka, then I stop here. There so I am 30 + 5 or 35 years old.

The following is a list of Khmer lunar months and the number of days:



 Since a lunar month is about 29.5 days, one lunar year is 354 days, which is shorter than the solar year by 11 days. Adjusting for this discrepancy, an extra month is added every two to three years. An extra day is also added to a particular year to maintain the synchronization.

A leap year can have an extra month or an extra day.

    A year with an extra day is called Chhantrea Thimeas (ចន្ទ្រាធិមាស) or Adhikavereak (អធិកវារៈ). This year has 355 days.
    A year with an extra month is called Adhikameas (អធិកមាស). This year has 384 days.

The extra leap-day occurs in the month of Jays (ជេស្ឋ) which has 30 days instead of the normal 29 days.

Unlike the Indian and Chinese calendar where any month can become leap months, Khmer leap month is always in the month of Ashad. Adhikameas has two months of Ashad (អាសាធ). The first month of Ashad is called Badhamasad (បឋមាសាធ) and the second month is called Thutiyasad (ទុតិយាសាធ). In the year of Adhikameas both Badhamasad and Thutiyasad months have 30 days making the number of days in that year totaling 384 days. Only one type of leap year can occur at a time. There is no year with both an extra day and an extra month as in the case for the Chinese calendar.

Day

Khmer lunisolar calendar counts the day by using Keit (កើត) and Roaj (រោច). Keit signifies that the moon is in its waxing phase. Keit is counted from a new moon to a full moon. The number is counted from one to fifteen incrementally. So the new moon is one Keit and the full moon is fifteen Keit. Then it continues with one Roaj. Roaj indicates that the moon is in its waning phase going from full moon to new moon. Depending on the number of days in that month, Roaj can go from one to fourteen for a 29-day month or one to fifteen for a 30-day month.

This counting system occurs consistently throughout each month and differs from the Indian lunisolar calendar where the date or tithi can skip a day depending on the moon phase. In both the Indian and Chinese calendar, the number of days per month varies from year to year.
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As the site is done and not longer maintained, yet very useful, Atma started to reconstruct the previous gift here:

https://sangham.net/en/calender/khmer_chhankitek

Not sure if the calender tool can be integrated as well, as it was long time source for the Uposathas. Maybe Nyom Moritz has an eye on it.

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Not sure if the calender tool can be integrated as well, as it was long time source for the Uposathas. Maybe Nyom Moritz has an eye on it.

I will take a look at it. Should be not too difficult to fill the forum calendar with the Uposatha days by this method automatically.  :)

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Atma saw that Nyom Moritz generously edited a little and on it, Atma came to mind "maybe the generous share" by Bhante Ariyadhammika , especialy the mathematics by Bhante Gambhiro , might help, even surely a if different pattern (methods) of determination of Uposathas, at least for ideas of astro-datas, in case of undertakings here.

https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=971.msg20656#msg20656
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Thanks for the hint, Bhante.
I am still reading the text and trying to follow it.

I do not know which shares of explanations about Uposatha days by Bhante Ariyadhammika and Bhante Gambhiro Bhante is referring to.
But it would be surely interesting for me to look at it as well.

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Bhante had shared some works, also by Bhante Hasapanno here (maybe more scientific that traditional) here attached (not brought into library yet): https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=971.msg20781#msg20781 , Nyom Moritz , remembering that Bhante Gambhiro used many algorithms.
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Thanks Bhante. That is a lot to look at.
May take some time until I am clear about everything.

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Thanks Bhante. That is a lot to look at.
May take some time until I am clear about everything.
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As nearly another year, Atma thought to go on to prepare it manually again.
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I am sorry that I forgot about this.
My mind is too crowded with other stuff and I don't know how to clean it up anymore.

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