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Like when enter or join, a shrine, another's sphere, or back: good for greating, bye, veneration, short talks, quick help. Some infos on regards .


2023 May 19 12:53:17
Johann: May all spend a blessing Uposatha New moon based on metta.

2023 May 15 18:40:18
Johann: Once uncontrolled emotions and angry birds have entered the fake liberation disguise, it's a quaranty that they even destroy their whole kind by increasing the killing and battle fields. Long is the pain for those approving wrong for a "good".

2023 May 14 22:19:00
Johann: Put into topic: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!

2023 May 14 22:16:22
Vilā: => សត្វទាំងឡាយមានកម្ម ជារបស់ខ្លន

2023 May 14 22:12:29
Johann: And what are the joys like snares? Release on joy in Sign is a snare, ...sound is a snare..., smell, taste, bodily touch, release by joy over ideas is a snare, leading to birth, aging, sickness, death and seperation, again and again.

2023 May 14 22:07:54
Vilā: ប្រសិនបើឃើញអន្ទាក់ថា ជាអន្ទាក់ហើយចេះដើរ ដោយសុវត្ថិភាព តាមវិធីរបស់ខ្លួន មានអីមិនល្អ?

2023 May 14 22:06:42
Vilā: ការបានរូចខ្លនពីអន្ទាក់ ជាភាពរីករាយ។ ពួកគេនឹងជាប់អន្ទាក់ដោយ សារឃើញនុយ ដែលចូលចិត្ត

2023 May 14 21:40:43
Johann: Every joy leads to certain release. But it's just right joy that leads toward lasting, right release.

2023 May 14 18:00:02
Vilā: មេឃងងឹត និងកំពុងភ្លៀង នៅភ្នំពេញ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 13 22:08:08
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 12 16:58:21
Johann: ...and ពិសាខ អដ្ថមី បូជា Atthamī Pūjā: The Day of the Buddha's Cremation

2023 May 12 07:26:55
Johann: A blessed Uposatha- observing this Sila-day.

2023 May 11 22:36:00
Johann: A great lesson, reminder, to reflect on sport by Nyom Gernot, once Atma still was a child: "If they would give out 22 balls on the soccer field, they would not need to fight over one." It might help Dhammika to see the dangers of games and sports.

2023 May 11 22:30:12
Johann: Not-knowing being the cause of wrong deeds, knowing so, how could a Dhammika ever have a thought like "this is an enemy". The Brahmaviharas don't have a place for 'but' and exclusion all around.

2023 May 09 14:38:28
Johann: Nyom Gernot

2023 May 09 14:37:32
Johann: Doubt that there isn't more sublime pleasure and peace to be found when going forth, living the Brahmacaria.

2023 May 09 14:36:31
Johann: The same: fear of losing sensual pleasure and arising of doubt, Nyom.

2023 May 09 14:28:04
Moritz: Hard to understand context. I will try to understand more later. Now must go back to work stress. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 09 14:12:54
Johann: Good to encourage Nyom Vila likewise she once did when doubts on the path in Nyom Moritz arose and he seeked to go back into the war zones of the world.

2023 May 09 14:11:09
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2023 May 09 14:09:07
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 May 05 21:18:00
Johann: Some moved there

2023 May 05 18:45:49
Vilā: 😒

2023 May 05 16:44:26
Johann: A man said: "The worst peace is better then war." Actually any peace isn't war. And violence for what ever reason can never be justified. That why the one putting away weapons always wins, not to speak of those follow him right after, right here and yet. How can one, for the sake of own ignorance, encourage even others to fight and kill and lead others to wrong doings and into hell. Violence is never overcome by violence, but by non-violence. This is an eternal law. The law of not giving any flame only a little fuel. Etena saccena suvatthi hotu. Ratana Sutta

2023 May 04 21:44:40
Johann: មុទិតា (shares moved here )

2023 May 04 21:12:32
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ កូណានៅលើវេរ៉ង់ដា ស្រឡះល្អ

2023 May 04 21:08:57
Johann: May all spend a peaceful and liberating Vesakh Puja Uposatha by means of letting go of desires to control the world of senses and dwell within the Brahma-realms.

2023 May 03 23:24:59
Johann: Global holocaust... not 'just' WW, initiated by "tech revolution" as means... May all strive consciously for what's beyond struggles and gains in this world, how ever ease it might still be perceived by most. May all, by their right choices, find and develop firm Refuge into the Gems, gain a footing toward the deathless timely.

2023 Apr 29 11:14:02
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 28 18:15:14
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila-day today, for those observing it today.

2023 Apr 28 09:45:18
blazer: good morning everyone

2023 Apr 27 11:32:09
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 27 11:15:08
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 27 06:10:57
Johann: A Blessed Sila-day by observing the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Apr 26 00:45:37
blazer: Very good reading, thank you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 25 15:25:49
Johann: To have the Khmer below also in English: Mangala Sutta , and mudita.

2023 Apr 25 11:55:49
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 25 11:51:13
Johann: As for Atma... enough (or say: die spinnen, die Römer)

2023 Apr 25 11:48:26
Johann: Yes, maybe some like to read about it...

2023 Apr 25 11:45:25
blazer: This is fantastic and more! It was great to see someone training in austerity, solitude, aiming for liberation, someone having some urgency to leave for a simple life. This encounter have left me a bit sleepless, many sensations and toughts have arisen. Will write a few lines soon.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 25 10:07:42
Johann: Fantastic of what one could perceive, could meet, isn't it...

2023 Apr 25 07:28:04
Johann: Mudita

2023 Apr 25 06:00:48
blazer: Just met a person, who is practicing renunciations, meditation, planning to depart for a solitary life, in contemplation, far from society, looking for liberation as final goal. Much good talk. Gave good inspiration.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 24 23:36:27
Johann: That's why they bow down to stones... those stones and images, or books aren't so 'violent' toward defilements.

2023 Apr 24 21:16:58
Vilā: សេចក្តីគោរពចំពោះបុគ្គលដែលគួរគោរព ១ ការប្រព្រឹត្តិបន្ទាបខ្លួន ១ សេចក្តីត្រេកអរចំពោះរបស់ដែលមាន ១ ភាពនៃបុគ្គលអ្នកដឹងឧបការគុណដែលអ្នកដទៃធ្វើដល់ខ្លួន ១ ការស្តាប់ធម៌តាមកាល ១ (ទាំង ៥) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។  សេចក្តីអត់ធន់ ១ ភាពនៃបុគ្គលដែលប្រដៅងាយ ១ ការបានឃើញ បានចួបសមណៈទាំងឡាយ ១ ធម្មសាកច្ឆាតាមកាល ១ (ទាំង ៤) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។  សេចក្តីព្យាយាមដុតបាបធម៌ ១ ការប្រព្រឹត្តិនូវធម៌ដ៏ប្រសើរ ១ ការឃើញនូវអរិយសច្ចទាំងឡាយ ១ ការធ្វើឲ្យជាក់ច្បាស់នូវព្រះនិព្វាន ១ (ទាំង ៤) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។

2023 Apr 24 21:13:56
Vilā: ចិត្តនៃបុគ្គលណា ដែលលោកធម៌ពាល់ត្រូវហើយ មិនរំភើបញាប់ញ័រ ១ មិនមានសេចក្តីសោក ១ មានធូលី គឺរាគៈ ទៅប្រាសហើយ ១ ចិត្តក្សេមក្សាន្ត ១ (ទាំង ៤) នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។

2023 Apr 24 21:13:50
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 24 20:49:31
Johann: If it's not dead, or without any life, people are incapable to take as refuge. For how could they hold control over something not dead?

2023 Apr 23 10:52:23
blazer: Hello  _/\_

2023 Apr 20 19:43:00
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 20 18:52:30
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 20 06:13:14
Johann: And, as well today, for those conducting it today.

2023 Apr 19 13:17:12
Johann: A blessed New Moon Uposatha and ending of New Year fests.

2023 Apr 19 09:49:26
blazer:  _/\_ good morning everyone  _/\_

2023 Apr 13 11:10:07
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_

2023 Apr 13 10:16:55
Johann: Nyom. Good time for a good morning. Mudita

2023 Apr 13 10:13:00
blazer:  _/\_ Good morning  _/\_

2023 Apr 13 07:15:05
Johann: A blessed Sila-day by observing conducts in line with metta.

2023 Apr 09 19:52:37
Johann: There is a huge different between refuge in common creativity, open source, GNU, and the Community of Noble once, a huge: right or wrong view.

2023 Apr 09 01:07:08
Johann: Like a former leader of an large Asian country shortly encouraged his folk: if they withdraw from us, just copysteal all, organize a downloader and simply download it and share it for free.... Well than: may you find the way to happiness with ease by yourself. No slightest hope for any having fallen into the range of people with grave wrong view and deluded after pseudo-liberality (free plunder). Atma would say all for good here. No more need for it, because Sangha has gone.

2023 Apr 05 07:05:37
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 05 06:05:41
Johann: A harmless chinese ancestor day, really care of all.

2023 Apr 05 06:04:30
Johann: A blessed full-moon Uposatha by good conducts, remembering also former relatives.

2023 Apr 04 17:43:37
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Apr 04 13:34:41
Johann: Enough...

2023 Apr 03 11:36:05
blazer: Good morning  _/\_

2023 Apr 02 16:32:05
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ទឹកចិត្តឪពុក 😌

2023 Apr 02 07:28:20
Johann: Destroyed, cast off, killed that what nurished them, eaten off parents, no prosperity upwardly can be gained, path cut off.

2023 Apr 01 19:14:21
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 01 17:21:40
Johann: Nyom

2023 Apr 01 17:07:40
blazer: Good afternoon everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Apr 01 12:05:40
Johann: "Rest in peace" where there isn't, is as harmful as running on the wrong path. Slowly, slowly, knowing steady oneself, step by step.

2023 Apr 01 12:02:58
Johann: Neither stopping (skilful) nor cramping (to do skilful), a long journey can be brought to it's end.

2023 Apr 01 10:14:01
Johann: ... "for free" ,for no benefit world, with no way out from open source, common creativity and public domain. Relay on real goodness seems to much liberating and consequently.

2023 Apr 01 10:10:32
Johann: That what people at large think as "free world" is the area where allowed to freely what's unskillful. Wheras in the "un-free world" peole are given to make whar ever skilful, free to do meritorious deeds. You wouldn't like the freedom of a intact world, would you? That's why caught in the "for free

2023 Apr 01 06:19:19
Johann: All done what's good. Remember the told. Duties done, no fault. Making oneself with Dhamma an island. Free to go, free to come, going on, or stay, how ever, when proper.

2023 Mar 31 23:07:49
Vilā: ព្រោះ​គ្មានអ្នកណាស្គាលខ្ននច្បាស់ ក្រៅពីខ្លនឯង។

2023 Mar 31 23:07:02
Vilā: កូណា​ធ្វើអ្វីមួយចេញពីចិត្ត មិនដែលចង់បានមុខមាត់អ្វី ទើបធ្វើ។ កូណាគិតថាមានគ្រូជាទីពឹង បើខ្លួនមិនទាន់ស្គាល់ផ្លូវច្បាស់ តែឥលូវមានតែដើរតាមផ្លូវរបស់ខ្លន

2023 Mar 31 22:59:32
Vilā: កូណាមិនអាចរកផ្លូវបដិបត្តិទៅមុខដោយវិធីដដែលនេះ នឿយហត់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Mar 31 00:47:30
Johann: 'Look at a day when you are supremely satisfied at the end. It’s not a day when you lounge around doing nothing; it’s when you’ve had everything to do and you’ve done it.' comment at Labor makes free .

2023 Mar 29 13:25:07
Vilā: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Mar 29 12:27:38
Johann: A blessed Sila Day today.

2023 Mar 29 11:13:31
Johann: Nyom Blazer

2023 Mar 29 11:08:57
blazer: Good morning  _/\_

2023 Mar 28 10:02:34
Johann: Sadhu Sadhu

2023 Mar 28 09:44:47
Vilā:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Mar 27 21:00:18
Vilā: ព្រះពុទ្ធ*

2023 Mar 27 20:59:49
Vilā: កូណាជឿ ជាសំណាងចុងក្រោយ នៃសាសនាព្រះពុទ្អសមណគោត្តម។

2023 Mar 27 20:52:15
Johann: AI's teaching Patimokkha, after donation, and faithful deliver 4 paccaya via zipline into forests... and nobody believes when telling "last generation", but expext even increase of awakening.

2023 Mar 27 20:48:50
Johann: Atma thought about futher Nissaya of Monks, and right then that came along...

2023 Mar 27 20:41:16
Vilā: អ្នកដំបូងគេ សម្រាប់សេវាកម្មនេះនៅអាស្រម គឺព្រះអង្គ :)

2023 Mar 27 20:40:09
Vilā: កូណា គ្រាន់តែឆ្ងល់ និងចង់សើច ហេតុអី ព្រះអង្គដឹង? មើលរាល់ថ្ងៃកាសែតរាល់ថ្ងៃ?

2023 Mar 27 20:24:06
Johann: Because we strong believed that the senses are real, now we can even fly without Iddhi...

2023 Mar 27 20:22:37
Johann: Time to think about landing-place for sky taxis on mountain Ashrams....

2023 Mar 27 20:20:09
Johann: Nyom would be the first to use if soon here avaliable, right?

2023 Mar 27 18:44:26
Vilā: 🙏🙏🙏https://www.flyzipline.com/ 🤭

2023 Mar 27 17:00:33
Johann: May one tell me a different, but no more act able Sangha found in this world, or may one tell Atma 'foolish blind'. Some individuals might be left, some Pabbajitos, but no further lineage.

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Author Topic: Khmer Chhankitek Calendar - ប្រតិទិន​ចន្ទគតិ​ខ្មែរ - Upo  (Read 13757 times)

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Not only for Cambodians, but generally interessting and used in the Dhamma - Vinaya Tradition which is common nearly forgotten or simply unknown. Very needed in regard of counting the Uposatha days.
Simple methods known by the elders till today.





Cambodians use two types of calendars: the international calendar for civil purposes and the traditional calendar for religious purposes. Although called Chhankitek, which means lunar calendar, Khmer traditional calendar is a lunisolar calendar similar to some of the Hindu calendars and the Chinese calendar.

The goal of this research is to create a create a computer program that can display the Khmer calendar for different years. With the recently published Khmer books on Khmer calendar by Mr. Kim Soeun Roath (ksroath@yahoo.com) (ប្រតិទិនសុរិយគតិ-ចន្ទគតិ ពីគ.ស១៩០០ ដល់ គ.ស១៩៩៩ និង គ.ស២០០០ ដល់ គ.ស២០៩៩ ដោយ លោក រាត់ គឹមសឿន), the mechanics of the Khmer calendar system can be unveiled. The book "អត្តាឡើងស័កនិងមហាសង្ក្រាន្ត" by the same author also shows the calculation of the Khmer new year songkran.



Khmer Date Utility: Acient Way of Counting Age
Find animal year from your age:

The 12 orange dots are the different positions used in this method. The animal years are positioned for the year of Roka (2005). This varies from year to year. The current animal year starts at brown arrow (second knuckle of your pointing finger) and counts clockwise to the successive years. The green flower star is where you start if the age is at least 10 years old or else start at the blue star marked as 1 going counter clockwise.

    Start counting from the tip of the pointing finger (green flower star) clockwise every second position. You count just the multiple of ten such as 10, 20, 30, and 40 until it reaches the ten digit of a specific age. As an example, for 35, I would count 10, 20, and then 30.
    If the age is a multiple of ten, that was your final position. Or else continue from the current position by counting backward (counter clockwise) one position at a time until it reaches a specific age. So for the 35, from my early position, I count counter clockwise 31, 32, 33, 34, and then 35 arriving at the dot marked 11 Jor.
    The last step is to determine what animal belongs to that final position. Start counting the current year animal at the brown arrow *. Count clockwise until it reaches your final position. That is the birth animal year for that age.

*Notes: This method has been modified. The original method is to start positioning the year at the blue star (lowest point of your pointing finger). But this missed by one year; so to make it works I move the start position up to the brown arrow.



Find your age from the animal year:

Age  Count

10   10
20   8
30   6
40   4
50   2
60   12
70   10
80   8
90   6
100  4

This assumes that you have some idea of how old you are in a range of 10 years. Use the table on the right to determine how many count to use for a specific age.

    Use your multiple of ten of your age to determine the count. Example, for the age around 30, the count is 6.
    Start from your animal year and count to the successive animal year for the number of time found in step 1. Example, assume I was born on the year of Dog (Jor) and I am around 30. So I would count 6 times as Kaor, Jute, Chlov, Karl, Thos, and Rorng. Notice I didn't count Jor as 1 but count Koar, the next year instead.
    Now use your finger to keep track of the count, and continue until you reach the current year. The final count is added to your multiple of ten of your age. Example: Continue from step 2, I would count, Masagn as 1, Momee as 2, Momay as 3, Voke as 4, and Roka as 5. If the current year is Roka, then I stop here. There so I am 30 + 5 or 35 years old.

The following is a list of Khmer lunar months and the number of days:



 Since a lunar month is about 29.5 days, one lunar year is 354 days, which is shorter than the solar year by 11 days. Adjusting for this discrepancy, an extra month is added every two to three years. An extra day is also added to a particular year to maintain the synchronization.

A leap year can have an extra month or an extra day.

    A year with an extra day is called Chhantrea Thimeas (ចន្ទ្រាធិមាស) or Adhikavereak (អធិកវារៈ). This year has 355 days.
    A year with an extra month is called Adhikameas (អធិកមាស). This year has 384 days.

The extra leap-day occurs in the month of Jays (ជេស្ឋ) which has 30 days instead of the normal 29 days.

Unlike the Indian and Chinese calendar where any month can become leap months, Khmer leap month is always in the month of Ashad. Adhikameas has two months of Ashad (អាសាធ). The first month of Ashad is called Badhamasad (បឋមាសាធ) and the second month is called Thutiyasad (ទុតិយាសាធ). In the year of Adhikameas both Badhamasad and Thutiyasad months have 30 days making the number of days in that year totaling 384 days. Only one type of leap year can occur at a time. There is no year with both an extra day and an extra month as in the case for the Chinese calendar.

Day

Khmer lunisolar calendar counts the day by using Keit (កើត) and Roaj (រោច). Keit signifies that the moon is in its waxing phase. Keit is counted from a new moon to a full moon. The number is counted from one to fifteen incrementally. So the new moon is one Keit and the full moon is fifteen Keit. Then it continues with one Roaj. Roaj indicates that the moon is in its waning phase going from full moon to new moon. Depending on the number of days in that month, Roaj can go from one to fourteen for a 29-day month or one to fifteen for a 30-day month.

This counting system occurs consistently throughout each month and differs from the Indian lunisolar calendar where the date or tithi can skip a day depending on the moon phase. In both the Indian and Chinese calendar, the number of days per month varies from year to year.
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As the site is done and not longer maintained, yet very useful, Atma started to reconstruct the previous gift here:

https://sangham.net/en/calender/khmer_chhankitek

Not sure if the calender tool can be integrated as well, as it was long time source for the Uposathas. Maybe Nyom Moritz has an eye on it.

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Not sure if the calender tool can be integrated as well, as it was long time source for the Uposathas. Maybe Nyom Moritz has an eye on it.

I will take a look at it. Should be not too difficult to fill the forum calendar with the Uposatha days by this method automatically.  :)

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* Moritz currently in Romania on vacation, with the goal of finding enough seclusion here to read a meditation manual written by Upasaka Dmytro, and planning to continue for a short visit to Kyiv in three days.

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Atma saw that Nyom Moritz generously edited a little and on it, Atma came to mind "maybe the generous share" by Bhante Ariyadhammika , especialy the mathematics by Bhante Gambhiro , might help, even surely a if different pattern (methods) of determination of Uposathas, at least for ideas of astro-datas, in case of undertakings here.

https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=971.msg20656#msg20656
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Thanks for the hint, Bhante.
I am still reading the text and trying to follow it.

I do not know which shares of explanations about Uposatha days by Bhante Ariyadhammika and Bhante Gambhiro Bhante is referring to.
But it would be surely interesting for me to look at it as well.

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Bhante had shared some works, also by Bhante Hasapanno here (maybe more scientific that traditional) here attached (not brought into library yet): https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=971.msg20781#msg20781 , Nyom Moritz , remembering that Bhante Gambhiro used many algorithms.
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Thanks Bhante. That is a lot to look at.
May take some time until I am clear about everything.

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Thanks Bhante. That is a lot to look at.
May take some time until I am clear about everything.
As much as investigations make joy and release from lower one, Nyom.
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As nearly another year, Atma thought to go on to prepare it manually again.
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I am sorry that I forgot about this.
My mind is too crowded with other stuff and I don't know how to clean it up anymore.

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