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Like when enter or join, a shrine, another's sphere, or back: good for greating, bye, veneration, short talks, quick help. Some infos on regards .


2023 Sep 29 07:35:30
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:23:47
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:03:11
Johann: A blessed full moon Uposatha and begin of the ancestor weeks by lived metta and virtue: lived gratitude toward all being, toward one self.

2023 Sep 22 22:07:43
Johann: If no rush turn toward reducing sensuality and make Silas the top of priority, it's to fear that an Atomic conflic will be chosen soon, in the battle of control of the "drugs".

2023 Sep 22 14:59:39
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 22 06:35:51
Johann: A blessed Uposatha Observance on this Sila-day, by conducting similar the Arahats.

2023 Sep 16 19:29:27
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 16 19:29:13
blazer: Hello everyone! I've just come back home. I had a long trip and no sleep for more than 30 hours, but currently feel quite good. I've had a good experience, i'm happy. I've found out much inspiration and many ideas about the training and the holy life. I'll recollect and write about them as soon as i've taken some rest. Hope to find you all well and in good health  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 15 05:25:24
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 14 21:09:49
Johann: A blessed rest of New moon Uposatha today (later as no connection before).

2023 Sep 10 01:55:47
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Sep 09 18:52:54
Johann: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 09 18:52:28
Johann: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 08 06:19:20
Johann: A blessed Sila day, by maintaining goodwill toward all, not only by deeds and speech, but with nine factors, incl. a mind full of metta.

2023 Sep 01 10:54:43
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 01 09:21:09
Johann:  “This verse was stated by earlier worthy ones, fully self-awakened:    Freedom from disease: the foremost good fortune. Unbinding: the foremost ease. The eightfold: the foremost of paths going to the Deathless, Secure.

2023 Sep 01 09:19:23
Johann: 'Ārogyaparamā lābhā nibbānaṃ paramaṃ sukhaṃ, Aṭṭhaṅgiko ca maggānaṃ khemaṃ amatagāmina'nti.   អារោគ្យបរមា លាភា និព្ពានំ បរមំ សុខំ អដ្ថងិកោ ច មគ្គានំ ខេមំ អមតគាមិន នតិ។  លាភទាំងឡាយ មានការមិនមានរោគ ដ៏ប្រសើរបំផុត ព្រះនិព្វាន ជាសុខដ៏ឧត្តម មគ្គប្រកបដោយអង្គ៨ ដ៏ក្សេមក្សាន្តជាងមគ្គទាំងឡាយ សម្រាប់ដំណើរ ទៅកាន់​ព្រះនិព្វាន ឈ្មោះអមតៈ។

2023 Aug 31 06:30:11
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 31 06:08:15
Johann: A blessed Fullmoon Uposatha, following the Arahats conducts.

2023 Aug 30 20:19:25
Johann: Nyom

2023 Aug 30 18:39:38
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 19:56:43
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu and mudita

2023 Aug 24 19:45:08
No Name: កូណា បាននាំគ្រួសាររក្សាសីល8ក្នុងថ្ងៃនេះ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_😌

2023 Aug 24 18:31:04
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 18:08:32
Johann: Message in the morning didn't arise... so a later: blessed rest of a good conducted Sila day.

2023 Aug 16 10:26:38
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 16 06:39:11
Johann: A blessed, peaceful, New Moon Uposatha, caused by metta-Citta.

2023 Aug 09 10:02:14
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 09 06:08:53
Johann: May all spend a blessed Sila day by observing the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Aug 02 19:15:32
Johann: May all Venerables have found a. suitable place for this Vassa, conductive for the sake of the deathless, and may all dwell conflictless, supported by admirable friends.

2023 Aug 01 13:39:35
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 01 07:03:18
Johann: A blesser Asalha-Puja, Dhamma day Full moon Uposatha. May all Venerables have found, find, a perfect place for their victorious Vassa. May all spend a blessend Uposatha and nobody get hurt on the lanes of rushing travels.

2023 Jul 26 18:11:11
Johann: May all spend a blessed rest of Sila-day today.

2023 Jul 24 18:01:06
blazer: For sure it would be! I've found good of having allayed the pain and being able to move

2023 Jul 23 17:40:26
Johann: A finally good news would be declaring of patgs and fruit attainments, with Arahataphalla as peak.

2023 Jul 23 17:39:09
Johann: Finally?  :)

2023 Jul 23 09:44:43
blazer: Thanks Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Finally i have a few good news. Will write about tomorrow

2023 Jul 22 19:41:41
Johann: A good time, and so a good morning, Nyom.

2023 Jul 22 09:12:47
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 20 20:20:43
Johann: Any further open doubts and questions?

2023 Jul 17 21:48:01
Johann: Periodicaly again the urge to do not relay on social medias and to concentrate doing the tasks very bodily on the earth, avoiding the lure of debtless consume and seek to know goodness and just take on what's personal given for good purpose, away from hidden trades and traps. People denying goodness and/or don't know how to pay back and toward whom, simple run crazy and after a while into all kinds of amok.

2023 Jul 17 06:10:00
Johann: A blesed New-moon Uposatha today.

2023 Jul 11 22:05:20
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila-Day today.

2023 Jul 10 23:09:42
blazer: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 10 16:32:58
Johann: Mudita

2023 Jul 10 03:32:09
blazer: I'm going to contact the forest monastery soon

2023 Jul 04 19:13:24
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 03 06:27:07
Johann: Likewise those observing the Uposatha today.

2023 Jul 02 05:55:14
Johann: A blessed full-moon Uposatha, by observing the nine-fold Uposath, starting with Metta.

2023 Jul 01 17:27:14
Jieshi Shan: Starlink has just passed over my head

2023 Jun 26 13:25:42
Johann: Nyom

2023 Jun 26 11:33:47
blazer: Good morning  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 26 06:23:22
Johann: And those conducting the observance today: may it be well done.

2023 Jun 25 11:16:30
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 25 09:03:52
Johann: A blessed Sila day, those conducting it today.

2023 Jun 23 08:50:50
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 21 14:32:05
blazer: It is hard to practice here. I'm in a place where i can get virtually anything in just a few minutes. And ads and distractions are everywhere. And people are so defiled so i have to carefully calibrate social interactions.

2023 Jun 21 13:44:56
Johann: It's not possible to gain Dhamma as long holding stand, home. Once elevating above sensuality, clearance can be gained.

2023 Jun 21 13:20:27
blazer: I'm sorry but i'm not understanding perfectly. How can i ask him for the best further way if he is not reachable directly? And what is meant by "best further way"?  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 21 13:19:05
blazer: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 20 17:42:55
Johann: Btw., if your Noble teacher might be no more in reach directly, once you make an effort toward the Brahmas, devoted to the Gems, you might get the chance to ask him about the best further way (note that an Noble Brahma, of cource, would serve lazy or not serious approaches).

2023 Jun 20 17:16:43
Johann: Some may wonder why the Sublime Buddha heavily rebuked monks when they teached the Dhamma of the Ariya, to those not prepeared yet... Once people have gained this Dhamma in wrong way or at wrong time, without favor toward renouncing and or Samvega, they are hardly ever able to gain it right, mostly closed up the door by their unwise ways and approach.

2023 Jun 18 15:32:24
blazer: Good afternoon  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 18 05:55:13
Johann: Likewise, a blessed Uposatha those who observe it today.

2023 Jun 18 00:45:56
blazer: Good to remember, greediness of results becomes a problem in these situations. Thank you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 17 21:22:34
Johann: See how close he is!

2023 Jun 17 13:04:43
blazer: How can i find such a teacher or an admirable friend right now?

2023 Jun 17 13:00:41
blazer: was not going out since a week because pain, wanted to give a try.

2023 Jun 17 13:00:01
blazer: im very in pain. Went out yesterday evening.

2023 Jun 17 12:51:01
Johann: Nyom, seek to live next a teacher, next admirable friends.

2023 Jun 17 12:27:12
blazer: obviously related to the last post

2023 Jun 17 12:14:49
blazer: I gone out in the evening after a week at home and i'm very hungry, it can be an impedment now and  later. Had to eat yogurt. Should i avoid solid food for good concentration?

2023 Jun 17 12:10:26
blazer: Please may Ven. Johann, if there, answer soon my new post  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 17 12:08:02
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ good news today

2023 Jun 17 06:21:43
Johann: A blessed New-moon Uposatha, based on metta, all who observe it today.

2023 Jun 11 21:47:12
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 11 20:42:00
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila day, by observing metta toward all beings, by thoughts and deeds.

2023 Jun 11 20:00:38
Johann: Nyom

2023 Jun 11 17:02:02
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 11 16:12:49
Johann: There isn't anyone who wouldn't be invited "to come and see" once willing to leave stand, home. For non it wouldn't be of much benefit to give even just a little toward the Gems. Yet less would take on occasion, preferring collecting for a stand, house, when ever access and feeling 'worthy' of it.

2023 Jun 10 20:22:50
Moritz: Best wishes to everyone _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 09 11:29:00
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 08 20:13:52
{removed name}1: Johann,why not invite your wife and children to join the forum?

2023 Jun 08 14:23:34
blazer: Hello  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 08 14:19:07
Moritz: Hello _/\_

2023 Jun 07 16:39:04
blazer: Bhante Johann, very happy to read you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 07 16:35:51
{removed name}1: Whoever is defiled And devoid of self-control and truth, Yet wears the saffron robe, Is unworthy of the saffron robe.

2023 Jun 07 16:30:42
{removed name}1: Rain in Vienna... Any plans to go back to homecountry?

2023 Jun 07 16:29:17
{removed name}1: Hello Atma how are you doing today? Enjoying your holiday in Cambodia?

2023 Jun 07 16:20:57
{removed name}1: Not by shaven head does a man who is indisciplined and untruthful become a monk

2023 Jun 07 16:17:56
{removed name}1: One is not a monk just because one begs from others. Nor does one become a monk by taking on domestic ways.

2023 Jun 07 16:13:41
{removed name}1: Happy 6th industrial revolution everyone🙏

2023 Jun 07 15:27:16
Johann: Else: Atma can only encourage to move the domain back into khema areas of as well as one self, for there in is no future for this people of grave wrong view and wouldn't like anybody to have burdens with lost fools. One can just leave them up to their fixed destination.

2023 Jun 07 15:14:45
Johann: ញោម "Nyom", ñoma - Ursprung bzw. Bedeutung , maybe of help, Nyom, Nyom.

2023 Jun 05 12:44:17
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_

2023 Jun 03 16:27:58
blazer: Checked time ago, i've seen somewhere translated as a person which is kind of equanimous, or something similar, as far as i can remember. Not finding the webpage right now

2023 Jun 03 15:28:13
Moritz: I think it's related to k'nyom (speaking out the "k" here), which means "I" and is used in normal colloquial language to speak of oneself. So not really sure how this relates to "former relative" etymologically.

2023 Jun 03 15:25:56
Moritz: I think "nyom" means something like "former relative", generally used by monks to address laypeople. Not really sure about the meaning in detail and where it could else be used. :)

2023 Jun 03 15:15:41
blazer: Good day to you Nyom Moritz  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 03 14:57:17
Moritz: Good day, Mr. blazer _/\_

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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2018, 08:10:55 AM »
Connection is not sure and the island you take as yours, drifts apart from the lands where the Buddhas teachings florish, have yiu not seen birth, oldage, death and the sickness of dependency!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2018, 08:14:38 AM »
"The is no evil one would not do, for one who speaks a deliberated lie", be quick, many are those follow and have firm faith in what the Buddha taught to avoid! You illusional island trifts away!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2018, 08:17:29 AM »
The family of the Noble Ones is beyond doing anyone a favor, beyond of trade, beyond of corruption for short lasting enjoyment and spinning around in the wheel of brith. aging sickness and death!

Come here and sit down in a human state!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2018, 08:19:38 AM »
Being avoided by those in borderland, it's hard to ever join again in helping to errect a Buddhafield!

Be quick, your island trifts away!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2018, 08:39:06 AM »
It's out of compassion, not a duty, that those who do not come back, give you a chance and stop for a short time to let others join a taste of joy that is beyond any tade, corruption, becoming, aging, sick ness and death.

When the last are gone, when you old illusional island, build on pride falls apart, where could you find firm refuge, where could you even find a places where Buddhafields are errected remembering the use of it right?

Be quick, your merits fade. It's not sure and hard to gain, a relation with the Noble Ones. Don't you see it, drunken in health, youth on life, foolish man. What you thought for real, where has it gone? Where is your fabricated Island now gone in this states of confusion, inbetween.

Don't be neglect, don't play with the Noble Ones!
You may be avoided by those living in borderland, who possible still have certain access.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2018, 08:42:02 AM »
May you have made merits toward the Noble Ones in the past, that this food can be of nurishment now direct in front of yours.

When ever you remember a place you stored some rest of merits, take it, and sit diwn in a human state!
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2018, 08:51:22 AM »

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa


Maha-mangala Sutta: Schutz


Ich habe gehört, dass zu einer Zeit der Erhabene sich in Savatthi aufhielt, im Jeta-Hain, Anathapindikas Kloster. Dann näherte sich eine gewisse Devi in der spätesten Stunde der Nacht dem Erhabenen, deren außerordentliches Strahlen die Gesamtheit des Jeta-Hains überstrahlte. Bei der Ankunft, nachdem sie sich vor dem Erhabenen verbeugt hatte, stand sie an einer Seite. Als sie an einer Seite stand, wandte sie sich an ihn mit dem Vers:


Viele Devas und Menschen
machen sich Gedanken über Schutz,
Wohlergehen wünschend.
Sagt also, was ist der höchste Schutz?

[Der Buddha:]
Nicht mit Toren umgehen,
sondern mit den Weisen,
Ehre erweisen jenen, die würdig der Verehrung sind:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Das Leben in einem zivilisierten Land,
Verdienste in der Vergangenheit erwirkt zu haben,
sich in der richtigen Richtung zu bemühen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Breites Wissen, Geschick,
wohlgemeisterte Disziplin,
wohlgesprochene Worte:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Unterstützung seiner Eltern,
Hilfestellung für die Frau und Kinder,
Gewissenhaftigkeit in der Arbeit:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Geben, Leben in Rechtschaffenheit,
Hilfestellung für die Verwandten,
Taten, die schuldlos sind:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Vermeiden, abstehen vom Bösen;
sich Fernhalten von Rauschmitteln,
wachsam über die Qualitäten des Geistes zu sein:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Respekt, Demut,
Bescheidenheit, Dankbarkeit,
das Dhamma zu passenden Gelegenheiten hören:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Geduld, Offenheit,
Besuch von Weisen,
Diskussion des Dhamma zu passenden Gelegenheiten:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Entsagung, Keuschheit,
die Edlen Wahrheiten sehen,
die Loslösung verwirklichen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Ein Geist, der, wenn berührt
von den Wegen der Welt,
bleibt unerschüttert, sorgenlos, staublos, sicher:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Überall unbesiegt,
wenn in dieser Weise handelnd,
wandeln die Leute überall in Wohlergehen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.



Maha-mangala Sutta: Protection

I have heard that at one time the Blessed One was staying in Savatthi at Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. Then a certain deva, in the far extreme of the night, her extreme radiance lighting up the entirety of Jeta's Grove, approached the Blessed One. On approaching, having bowed down to the Blessed One, she stood to one side. As she stood to one side, she addressed him with a verse.

Many devas and human beings
give thought to protection,
desiring well-being.
Tell, then, the highest protection.

The Buddha:
Not consorting with fools,
consorting with the wise,
paying homage to those worthy of homage:
   This is the highest protection.

Living in a civilized land,
having made merit in the past,
directing oneself rightly:
   This is the highest protection.

Broad knowledge, skill,
well-mastered discipline,
well-spoken words:
   This is the highest protection.

Support for one's parents,
assistance to one's wife and children,
consistency in one's work:
   This is the highest protection.

Giving, living in rectitude,
assistance to one's relatives,
deeds that are blameless:
   This is the highest protection.

Avoiding, abstaining from evil;
refraining from intoxicants,
being heedful of the qualities of the mind:
   This is the highest protection.

Respect, humility,
contentment, gratitude,
hearing the Dhamma on timely occasions:
   This is the highest protection.

Patience, compliance,
seeing contemplatives,
discussing the Dhamma on timely occasions:
   This is the highest protection.

Austerity, celibacy,
seeing the Noble Truths,
realizing Unbinding:
   This is the highest protection.

A mind that, when touched
by the ways of the world,
is unshaken, sorrowless, dustless, at rest:
   This is the highest protection.

Everywhere undefeated
when acting in this way,
people go everywhere in well-being:
   This is their highest protection.




Maṃgalasuttaṃ

Evaṃ me sutaṃ: ekaṃ samayaṃ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṃ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme. Atha kho aññatarā devatā abhikkantāya rattiyā abhikkantavaṇṇā kevalakappaṃ jetavanaṃ obhāsetvā yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami, upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṃ abhivādetvā ekamantaṃ aṭṭhāsi, ekamantaṃ ṭhitā kho sā devatā bhagavantaṃ gāthāya ajjhabhāsi.
 
260. Bahu devā manussā ca maṅgalāni acintayuṃ,
Ākaṅkhamānā sotthānaṃ brūhi maṅgala muttamaṃ.
 
261. Asevanā ca bālānaṃ paṇḍitānañca sevanā,
Pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
262. Patirūpadesavāso ca pubbe ca katapuññatā,
Attasammāpaṇidhi ca etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
263. Bāhusaccañca sippañca vinayo ca susikkhito,
Subhāsitā ca yā vācā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
264. Mātāpitū upaṭṭhānaṃ puttadārassa saṅgaho,
Anākulā ca kammantā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
265. Dānañca dhammacariyā ca ñātakānañca saṅgaho,
Anavajjāni kammāni etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
266. Ārati virati pāpā majjapānā ca saññamo,
Appamādo ca dhammesu etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
267. Gāravo ca nivāto ca santuṭṭhi ca kataññutā,
Kālena dhammasavaṇaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
268. Khantī ca sovacassatā samaṇānañca dassanaṃ,
Kālena dhammasākacchā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
269. Tapo ca brahmacariyañca ariyasaccānadassanaṃ,
Nibbānasacchikiriyā ca etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
270. Phuṭṭhassa lokadhammehi cittaṃ yassa na kampati,
Asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
271. Etādisāni katvāna sabbattha maparājitā,
Sabbattha sotthiṃ gacchanti taṃ tesaṃ maṅgalamuttamanti.




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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2018, 09:03:46 AM »
Okasa vandami bhante,

What do you mean by 'human state' and 'be quick'?
Is it about renouncing ?

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Neither ONLY just for the sake of all others nor ONLY for the sake of one self, that one should tend to assist in errecting a Buddhafield!

Only if having left home, have left trade, seeing the danger in all compounded things one is capable to participate in errecting a Buddhafied and also this not for a lasting time.

May there merits left, may they be tracesd, may the love and devotion toward the Noble Ones, the drive gained in the past, the fear to fail and seeing the pain of beings, you are part of it, lead you to take this momant, the chance you have, be enough for reaching a firm stand in the domain of the Buddhas and Arahat beyond world.

"Dhammo have rakkhati dammacāriṁ"

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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2018, 09:10:27 AM »
Leave your house behind, Deva gus , take on face, show and express you human state, you name, you body yiu have been given by you parents, sit down and bow to the Gems, the family you so long seeked.

And if ready let it be known, so that you can listen to the teachings of the Buddha and take them firm in your heart.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2018, 09:14:31 AM »
For the sake of yours and all those equal not secure, be quick, the connection is not lasting, your island drifts away!

Now, even it seems to be your last and needed refuge.
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Vandami. _/\_

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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2018, 07:58:05 PM »

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Samacitta Sutta: Minds in Tune

I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. And on that occasion Ven. Sāriputta was staying near Sāvatthī in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother. There Ven. Sāriputta said to the monks, “Friend monks!”

“Yes, friend,” the monks responded to him.

Ven. Sāriputta said, “Friends, I will teach you about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. Listen & pay close attention. I will speak.”

“As you say, friend,” the monks responded to him.

Ven. Sāriputta said, “And which, friends, is the individual interiorly fettered? There is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a returner, one who returns to this state.[1] This is called an individual interiorly fettered, a returner, one who returns to this state.

“And which, friends, is the individual exteriorly fettered? There is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. He enters & remains in a certain awareness-release.[2] On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.[3] This is called an individual exteriorly fettered, a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.

“Further, there is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. He is one who practices for disenchantment toward, dispassion for, and the cessation of sensuality. He is one who practices for disenchantment toward, dispassion for, and the cessation of becomings. He is one who practices for the ending of craving. He is one who practices for the ending of greed. On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a non-returner, one who does not return to this state. This is called an individual exteriorly fettered, a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.”

Then many devas with their minds in tune [samacitta] went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, bowed down to him and stood to one side. As they were standing there, they said to the Blessed One, “Lord, Ven. Sāriputta is teaching the monks in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. The assembly is overjoyed. It would be good, lord, if the Blessed One went to Ven. Sāriputta out of kindness.”[4]

The Blessed One acquiesced through silence. Then—just as a strong man might extend his flexed arm or flex his extended arm—he disappeared from Jeta’s Grove and re-appeared in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, right in front of Ven. Sāriputta. He sat down on a seat laid out. Ven. Sāriputta, bowing down to the Blessed One, sat to one side. As he was sitting there, the Blessed One said to him, “Just now, Sāriputta, many devas with their minds in tune went to me and, on arrival, bowed down to me and stood to one side. As they were standing there, they said to me, ‘Lord, Ven. Sāriputta is teaching the monks in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. The assembly is overjoyed. It would be good, lord, if the Blessed One went to Ven. Sāriputta out of kindness.’
“Those devas—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another. If the thought should occur to you that ‘Those devas must have developed their minds there (in their heaven) so that—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—they can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another,’ it shouldn’t be seen in that way. It was right here[5] that those devas developed their minds so that—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—they can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another.

“Thus, Sāriputta, you should train yourselves: ‘We will be peaceful in our (sense) faculties, peaceful in our minds.’ That’s how you should train yourselves. When you are peaceful in your faculties, peaceful in your minds, [think,] ‘Bodily action will be peaceful, verbal action will be peaceful, mental action will be peaceful, & we will render peaceful service to our fellows in the holy life’: That’s how you should train yourselves.

“Sāriputta, those members of other sects who don’t get to hear this Dhamma discourse are lost.”
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Now, as  Nyom gus has actually taken birth in far outer-lands, living among those with grave wrong view and disregard toward the Gems, is the OP proverb true or not?

Who could have you keep away form it? Nobody could do good for you as long as not bond to liberation and clear of binds otherwise. Even if one would tell "be careful, your island is drifting away", one blinded by Mara, how could he listen and look, see?
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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

When one is born in outer regions
where the Buddha's teachings are unknown,
and where people are always doing evil deeds
with no idea of merits,
one can never do any worth while skilful deed
even if one is born in to wealthy circumstances.
Quote from: Lo-wada Sangarava
A Sinhalese poem of
the 15th century
by
Venerable Vidagama Maitreya Mahathera

It's not possible to make merits, conductive for the path, even merits toward higher realms, if one dwells, is related, to moder/western, the marxist/scientific world, and what ever Dhamma hearing, what ever basic good teachings, if inspired, goes not behind mental fiction, unless one leaves his stand behind.
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