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2020 May 30 07:05:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 30 06:51:35
Johann: Those taking on the Uposatha today: may many follow your encouragement when leading after near and those depending on you.

2020 May 29 20:39:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 19:56:20
Johann: What ever sacrificed toward the Sublime Gems, toward liberation, such is condition for no more flowing back into the world. Mudita

2020 May 29 08:40:16
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:34:50
Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

2020 May 29 08:33:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:27:03
Johann: If one would know or remembering the suffering behind pleasing form, sound, smell, taste, touch, one certain would no more desire after it. But because lof lack of remembering and proper attention, beings go after it, take birth, age, get sick, seperated, die, again and again, keeping the flame of k

2020 May 29 08:15:29
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:15:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 07:42:53
Johann: If ones sacrifices, generosity, isn't protected by a good closed tank, less fruits can be expected. And what is the tank made of? Saddha, Pasada, metta, Sila, intention for own and others independency.

2020 May 29 06:36:24
Johann: A blessed Siladay all who are doing it today

2020 May 28 19:24:28
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 28 18:32:00
Moritz: Upgrade to SMF 2.0.17 has been completed. Everything running smooth for everybody?

2020 May 23 06:43:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 22 21:09:34
Johann: May all still continue to spend a blessed New moon Uposatha till break on of a new day (of course good to continue without break). Mudita

2020 May 21 20:16:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 21 19:30:50
Johann: Nothing more a blessing as to do not cling to a specific Nikaya, since one can easy take the opportunity of doing theUposatha often two days a new. May all always make the best of given possibilities.

2020 May 20 21:19:41
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 20 20:44:31
Cheav Villa: May Bhante get well soon.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 20 20:43:13
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 14:55:14
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 12:17:04
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 21:21:28
Johann: Nyom Sophorn

2020 May 17 07:36:11
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 17 07:14:16
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 06:01:03
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 May 16 20:42:01
Johann: Bhante

2020 May 15 20:13:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 15 19:17:25
Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

2020 May 14 09:09:08
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 14 06:17:12
Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 12 19:10:56
Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

2020 May 10 15:27:11
Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

2020 May 10 15:26:00
Johann: "stand", taking, holding a stand makes it possible more understandable and fits better to it.

2020 May 10 15:24:35
Johann: Welcome Depabasadhamma, Atma will open a topic on it.

2020 May 10 15:04:51
Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

2020 May 09 21:15:38
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:48:57
Johann: Apsara in Pali: accharā, translation actually "A Whoo!"

2020 May 09 20:45:38
Johann: "...“Then take joy, Nanda. Take joy! I am your guarantor for getting 500 dove-footed nymphs.”..."

2020 May 09 20:45:17
Johann: "“What do you think, Nanda? Which is lovelier, better looking, more charming: the Sakyan girl, the envy of the countryside, or these 500 dove-footed nymphs?”..."

2020 May 09 20:43:26
Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

2020 May 09 19:24:05
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 09 19:08:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 19:00:58
Johann: When not working he is already used to where his beige light clean cloth, morning, noon, evening and already good organized.

2020 May 09 18:52:05
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 07 15:18:07
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 10:33:24
Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

2020 May 07 10:21:10
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 07 10:19:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 07 06:02:32
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 05:46:38
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
Johann: followed by another overload by huawei-search engines... fixed

2020 May 04 20:31:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

2020 May 03 21:13:46
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 20:32:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 03 12:53:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 May 03 12:07:17
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 26 20:23:57
Cheav Villa: and Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:30
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:25
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 08:18:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 07:18:02
Johann: Ādīnava , អដីនវ, As one of ten perceptions: AN 10.60

2020 Apr 26 07:09:32
Johann: May Dukkha be visible for all, so to stay on the path  that leads beyond and liberation.

2020 Apr 25 16:57:34
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 25 15:54:00
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 23 18:41:59
Johann: Sadhu for care to report and assist

2020 Apr 23 18:39:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana now not get notification.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 23 15:04:07
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 23 13:45:57
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 22 11:17:56
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Apr 22 06:38:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 Apr 22 05:45:37
Khemakumara: karuṇā, corona? which one prefers?   may it a fruit- and pathful Uposatha!

2020 Apr 21 19:53:51
Johann: If Nyom likes to use Atmas tablet and Sim, just pick it up at any time.

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Posted by: Johann
« on: November 13, 2019, 12:17:11 PM »

Mudita with Nyoms trust into metta.

May he enjoy the fruits of giving freedom of fear by a mind of goodwill toward all being, and outer actions based on this aspect of right view.
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 09, 2019, 07:03:36 AM »

So closing might have effects. Atma opens up another time to have a look on it.
Posted by: Moritz
« on: November 09, 2019, 04:09:49 AM »

No bots (of the kind which came in large amounts) so far today, I think. (No blocking measures taken yet.)

Posted by: Johann
« on: November 08, 2019, 09:48:02 AM »

Tempory banner which wouldn't deprive from existence or close up doors for birth might be possible with proper mind attitude. Mind: metta based on right view, Sila without any intention to take existance or harm and hurt.

Maybe not to long.

There is an mod by the young programmer of smf which makes such when a ceratin IP makes to much touches is certain time. Similar could be maybe made but with a range and a remove of banner, say 1 or 2 days again.

Currently Asian developers might try to learn what is possible of what western made over longer time more carefully. As shown, the first try was from China using manpower, now from open kept Hong kong. They now try and surely success in much shorter time, to build up an empire like God Google.

Anyway, one should be clear:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

009.04. Bhikkhus, the highwaymen endowed with eight things does not do it long, ends up quickly. What eight?

Attacks those who should not be attacked, takes away without leaving anything, kills women, defiles maidens, plunders the gone forth, plunders the royal treasury, steals in the vicinity and does not have a saving Bhikkhus, the highwaymen endowed with these eight things does not do it long, ends up quickly.

Bhikkhus, the highwaymen endowed with eight things does it long, does not end up quickly. What eight?

Does not attack those who should not be attacked, does not take away without leaving anything, does not kill women, does not defile maidens, does not plunder the gone forth, does not plunder the royal treasury, does not steal in the vicinity and has a saving Bhikkhus, the highwaymen endowed with these eight things does it long, does not end up quickly.
Quote from: translation of AN 8.84 by Sister Uppalavanna

Foolish thieves, skilled thieves, unskilled, Robin Hoods, a mother fighting for the family surviving... they are all still thieves.

Nobody understands how importand a Dhamma search engine, with given access to search, would be and prefer to use the means of thieves...

Banner, kill, depriving... for whom ever, is still akusala.

May Nyom act what is regarded as puñña kiriya vatthu and not a little outside even if feeling it might be rightouse. So in that mood, mudita
Posted by: Moritz
« on: November 08, 2019, 07:10:49 AM »

Some common characteristics of apparent blind data-collecting robots:

IP address starting with 159.138
HTTP headers:
HTTP_ORIGIN:  (none)
HTTP_USER_AGENT: many different possibilities (probably all "faked"), but apparently always containing "AppleWebKit"

not using cookies

It seems to me that blocking by IP would be actually most reasonable. Maybe for some days or weeks at least, hoping that the robots would then not return for a while.
Searching around on the internet, others have reported the same problem since a few months about similar IP ranges.

It seems to me that requiring log-in for the whole forum does not have much lasting effect. They could probably not read and understand that login is required, and that every URL they try simply shows this same message and information.
As long as there is anything to see, and even small changes maybe (like content of the recent topics and shoutbox), it is probably "interesting" enough to try and collect data.

The bots are visiting many URLs which could not be accessed through any links for non-logged in people at the moment. So they rely on some memory of pages they visited before, or links they collected before.
There are thousands of possible URLs in the forum. So they could keep themselves busy with that for a very long time.

I think maybe only a "404 - not found" or "405 - gone" answer, if repeated long enough to them, could make them "forget" and let go of this site for maybe a longer while.
It looks like they are keeping a "slow" pace, in order to be not completely disruptive. Probably they would want to check every URL at least a few times over some longer period, until they would accept that it is useless to come back to.

So my approach would be now to just collect IP addresses (so far, all starting with 159.138) for a while and check if they all match the pattern of "probable bot". And then block all those IPs that seem to be confirmed as bots, for at least a week or two. Maybe better even a month.

Of course not totally sure how far exactly the IP range of bots goes. And such IP ranges could be re-assigned one day. But for now, it seems, they all come from some IP range currently (and probably for a longer time) belonging to "Huawei Cloud Services", i.e. some cluster of servers that anyone could rent, not belonging to any normal "consumer" internet connection of some smart phone, or laptop or desktop computer etc.

Posted by: Johann
« on: November 06, 2019, 06:26:10 PM »

Sadhu (robots of offical search engines are given access to login in an admin setting, just for info, but guessing that this kind doesn't fall into that category).
Posted by: Moritz
« on: November 06, 2019, 06:10:47 PM »

My person guesses that cloud-robots try to uphold a most actual mirror
My person guesses that cloud-robots try to uphold a most actual mirror

Yes, that is also what I would guess.

Just archiving information. For whatever purpose.

There are of course the "benign" and generally accepted robots of web search engines like Google and Bing. But they would usually not come in such large numbers, eating so much traffic. People would complain and give such search engines a bad reputation.

There is also some kind of protocol which such "official" robots would follow, telling them where they are allowed to look and where not (robots.txt , currently nothing like that configured for, and something I had never really learnt about, so am reading about it now). Not sure if these kinds of robots here would do that. But probably useful to know about anyway.

For now, I have been logging requests for about 10 minutes, to see if I can find any patterns useful for guessing what might be a bot and who not.

May Nyom Moritz not fall into to much worry with it.
Not much worry here. But having a free day today, I have some time to investigate. It surely seems like a problem that one should know how to deal with on the long run.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 06, 2019, 05:47:28 PM »

My person guesses that cloud-robots try to uphold a most actual mirror in cases the original server isn't reachable, or simply to increase traffic...

May Nyom Moritz not fall into to much worry with it.
Posted by: Moritz
« on: November 06, 2019, 05:41:37 PM »

At the moment I am trying to understand the robots' behaviour, thinking about what can then be done about it.

Posted by: Moritz
« on: November 05, 2019, 10:47:55 PM »

Did Nyom Moritz conducted anything, that may have caused the wave to stop, beside of Atmas close up?

No Bhante, I did not. _/\_
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 05, 2019, 05:42:08 PM »

Oh back... 950. So better closing up again.  :)
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 05, 2019, 10:36:55 AM »

The "wave" looks like as having stopped and so my petson opened up the forum for guests like before.

Did Nyom Moritz conducted anything, that may have caused the wave to stop, beside of Atmas close up?
Posted by: Moritz
« on: November 02, 2019, 10:09:11 PM »

Vandami Bhante _/\_

Where did Bhante look to see Huawei Cloud as origin of the many visitors? Is it through the Who is logged in page? At the moment, besides some guests, there is one "Google" listed. Is it the same place, where there would be "Huawei Cloud" in the list?

At this moment there are only 14 guests. So maybe it did help to restrict the forum access, but took some time.

Fifteen minutes later: Okay, now there are 160 guests.
Five more minutes later: now 210

Most from IP range 159.138.*, which seems to belong to Huawei Cloud, as confirmed here as well .

No idea what this "Huawei Cloud service" really all is. But as far as I know Huawei is a great producer of many "internet of things" devices ("intelligent" toasters or whatever kind of silly ideas; household items with a small computer built in, which have an internet connection that they need for some of their functions).
There are many cases where such devices are overtaken by hackers, which can sometimes amount to a huge "army" of toasters and coffee machines doing stuff on the internet, unknown to their owners.

No idea at the moment how to stop the flood without IP-blocking.

Posted by: Johann
« on: November 01, 2019, 04:17:29 PM »

The undertaking seems not to work, so far. The cloud robots reach a number up to 1000 at same time.

Just wondering if possible that the provider uses this cloud now for his hosts he takes care of. At least such would possible have some pleasing side effects as well.


Nyom Moritz , Nyom Sophorn

No idea for now. Banner isn't a valid solution (having seen that there are also mods dedecting such robots) and against precepts. Maybe it's possible to reach out to those in charge, either the cloud-company or the host provider who might may use of it.
The amount of visits will surely eat of the month avaliable traffic if looking at the last (which was only attracted by the haft time and half amount of visitors).

To prevent that Nyom, Nyom, might be charged with additional cost, is the reason for another "disturbing" on this matter.
Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 01, 2019, 01:04:42 PM »

 :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_