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2024 Feb 25 22:10:33
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2024 Feb 24 06:42:35
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Māgha Pūjā and Full moon Uposatha with much reason for good recallings of goodness.

2024 Feb 24 01:50:55
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 23 06:39:57
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Feb 23 00:19:58
blazer: Taken flu again... at least leg pain has been better managed since many weeks and it's the greatest benefit. Hope Bhante Dhammañāṇa is fine  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 01:06:43
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 00:02:37
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 17 18:47:31
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of todays Sila-day.

2024 Feb 17 18:46:59
Dhammañāṇa: Chau Marco, chau...

2024 Feb 16 23:32:59
blazer: Just ended important burocratic and medical stuff. I will check for a flight for Cambodia soon  _/\_

2024 Feb 09 16:08:32
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 12:17:31
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 06:42:17
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed New moon Uposatha and last day of the Chinese year of the rabbit, entering the Year of the Naga wisely.

2024 Feb 02 21:17:28
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 02 19:53:28
Dhammañāṇa: May all have the possibility to spend a pleasing rest of Sila day, having given goodness and spend a faultless day.

2024 Jan 26 14:40:25
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 25 10:02:46
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Full moon Uposatha.

2024 Jan 11 06:37:21
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 07 06:31:20
Dhammañāṇa: May many, by skilful deeds,  go for real and lasting independence today

2024 Jan 06 18:00:36
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 16:57:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 12:33:08
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila-day, full of metta in thoughts, speech and deeds.

2023 Dec 30 20:21:07
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 27 23:18:38
Dhammañāṇa: May the rest of a bright full moon Uposatha serve many as a blessed day of good deeds.

2023 Dec 26 23:12:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 24 16:52:50
Dhammañāṇa: May all who celebrated the birth of their prophet, declaring them his ideas of reaching the Brahma realm, spend peaceful days with family and reflect the goodness near around them, virtuous, generously.

2023 Dec 20 21:36:37
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 20 06:54:09
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by conducting in peacefull manners.

2023 Dec 12 23:45:24
blazer:  _/\_

2023 Dec 12 20:34:26
Dhammañāṇa: choice, yes  :)

2023 Dec 12 13:23:35
blazer: If meaning freedom of choice i understand and agree

2023 Dec 12 12:48:42
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 12 06:13:23
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a great New Moon Uposatha, following the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Dec 10 12:51:16
Dhammañāṇa: The more freedom of joice, the more troubled in regard of what's right, what's wrong. My person does not say that people at large are prepared for freedom of joice even a little.

2023 Dec 10 10:59:42
blazer: Hope they eat more mindfully than how they talk. It is clear for the gross food, we had more than a talk about this topic. I have put so much effort in mindful eating at the temple, but when i was back i wanted more refined food. I was used to get a choice of more than 10 dishes every day

2023 Dec 10 06:57:44
Dhammañāṇa: A person eating on unskilled thoughts will last defiled, Nyom. Gross food does nothing for purification at all.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:58
blazer: I've had a couple of not nice experiences with monks that were not so pure in my opinion. They surely eat far better than me at temple.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:41
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 09 11:38:36
Dhammañāṇa: Spiritual prostitution, just another way of livelihood.

2023 Dec 05 20:59:38
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 27 14:47:22
អរិយវង្ស:   _/\_ _/\__/\_

2023 Nov 27 05:41:32
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Anapanasati- Fullmoon and reflect the goodness of Ven Sāriputta as well today.

2023 Nov 20 19:18:13
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 20 18:20:15
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 20 02:48:24
Moritz: Hello _/\_ Still possible to join: An-other Journey into the East 2023/24

2023 Nov 18 13:55:11
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 12 01:09:01
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2023 Nov 12 00:45:21
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 19:42:10
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 07:17:02
Dhammañāṇa: សិលា​នាំ​ទៅ​រក​ឯករាជ្យ​នៃ​ជាតិ! សូមឱ្យមនុស្សជាច្រើនប្រារព្ធទិវាឯករាជ្យ(ពី)ជាតិ។

2023 Nov 09 07:06:56
Dhammañāṇa: Sila leads to independence of Jati! May many observe a conductive Independence day.

2023 Nov 07 00:54:02
Dhammañāṇa: Nyoum

2023 Nov 07 00:39:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 15:47:51
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 12:21:27
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila observation day today.

2023 Oct 30 15:17:36
Dhammañāṇa: It's common in to give up that what's given to do assist me toward release, common that seeking security in what binds.

2023 Oct 30 13:22:27
អរិយវង្ស: ព្រះអង្គ :) កូណាលុប delta chat ហើយ :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 23 18:56:09
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 22 20:36:01
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of this Sila-day.

2023 Oct 19 20:31:12
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom Sreyneang

2023 Oct 15 07:07:01
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 14 06:53:21
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a New moon Uposatha based on goodwill for all, find seclusion in the middle of family duties.

2023 Sep 29 07:35:30
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:23:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:03:11
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed full moon Uposatha and begin of the ancestor weeks by lived metta and virtue: lived gratitude toward all being, toward one self.

2023 Sep 22 22:07:43
Dhammañāṇa: If no rush turn toward reducing sensuality and make Silas the top of priority, it's to fear that an Atomic conflic will be chosen soon, in the battle of control of the "drugs".

2023 Sep 22 14:59:39
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 22 06:35:51
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Uposatha Observance on this Sila-day, by conducting similar the Arahats.

2023 Sep 16 19:29:27
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 16 19:29:13
blazer: Hello everyone! I've just come back home. I had a long trip and no sleep for more than 30 hours, but currently feel quite good. I've had a good experience, i'm happy. I've found out much inspiration and many ideas about the training and the holy life. I'll recollect and write about them as soon as i've taken some rest. Hope to find you all well and in good health  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 15 05:25:24
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 14 21:09:49
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of New moon Uposatha today (later as no connection before).

2023 Sep 10 01:55:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Sep 09 18:52:54
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 09 18:52:28
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 08 06:19:20
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by maintaining goodwill toward all, not only by deeds and speech, but with nine factors, incl. a mind full of metta.

2023 Sep 01 10:54:43
អរិយវង្ស: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 01 09:21:09
Dhammañāṇa:  “This verse was stated by earlier worthy ones, fully self-awakened:    Freedom from disease: the foremost good fortune. Unbinding: the foremost ease. The eightfold: the foremost of paths going to the Deathless, Secure.

2023 Sep 01 09:19:23
Dhammañāṇa: 'Ārogyaparamā lābhā nibbānaṃ paramaṃ sukhaṃ, Aṭṭhaṅgiko ca maggānaṃ khemaṃ amatagāmina'nti.   អារោគ្យបរមា លាភា និព្ពានំ បរមំ សុខំ អដ្ថងិកោ ច មគ្គានំ ខេមំ អមតគាមិន នតិ។  លាភទាំងឡាយ មានការមិនមានរោគ ដ៏ប្រសើរបំផុត ព្រះនិព្វាន ជាសុខដ៏ឧត្តម មគ្គប្រកបដោយអង្គ៨ ដ៏ក្សេមក្សាន្តជាងមគ្គទាំងឡាយ សម្រាប់ដំណើរ ទៅកាន់​ព្រះនិព្វាន ឈ្មោះអមតៈ។

2023 Aug 31 06:30:11
អរិយវង្ស: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 31 06:08:15
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Fullmoon Uposatha, following the Arahats conducts.

2023 Aug 30 20:19:25
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2023 Aug 30 18:39:38
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 19:56:43
Dhammañāṇa: Sadhu, Sadhu and mudita

2023 Aug 24 19:45:08
អរិយវង្ស: កូណា បាននាំគ្រួសាររក្សាសីល8ក្នុងថ្ងៃនេះ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_😌

2023 Aug 24 18:31:04
អរិយវង្ស: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 18:08:32
Dhammañāṇa: Message in the morning didn't arise... so a later: blessed rest of a good conducted Sila day.

2023 Aug 16 10:26:38
អរិយវង្ស: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 16 06:39:11
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed, peaceful, New Moon Uposatha, caused by metta-Citta.

2023 Aug 09 10:02:14
អរិយវង្ស: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 09 06:08:53
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Sila day by observing the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Aug 02 19:15:32
Dhammañāṇa: May all Venerables have found a. suitable place for this Vassa, conductive for the sake of the deathless, and may all dwell conflictless, supported by admirable friends.

2023 Aug 01 13:39:35
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 01 07:03:18
Dhammañāṇa: A blesser Asalha-Puja, Dhamma day Full moon Uposatha. May all Venerables have found, find, a perfect place for their victorious Vassa. May all spend a blessend Uposatha and nobody get hurt on the lanes of rushing travels.

2023 Jul 26 18:11:11
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed rest of Sila-day today.

2023 Jul 24 18:01:06
blazer: For sure it would be! I've found good of having allayed the pain and being able to move

2023 Jul 23 17:40:26
Dhammañāṇa: A finally good news would be declaring of patgs and fruit attainments, with Arahataphalla as peak.

2023 Jul 23 17:39:09
Dhammañāṇa: Finally?  :)

2023 Jul 23 09:44:43
blazer: Thanks Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Finally i have a few good news. Will write about tomorrow

2023 Jul 22 19:41:41
Dhammañāṇa: A good time, and so a good morning, Nyom.

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Uppalavanna von Galla, Schwester
(??-??) [uppa]

    Die Ehrwürdige Schwester Uppalavanna (von Galla) ist eine singhalesische Nonne, die zahlreiche Abschnitte des Anguttara Nikaya ins Englische übersetzt hat. Der Name "von Galla" wurde ihr hier deshalb gegeben, daß man sie nicht mit der deutschen Nonne Uppalavanna verwechseln mag und sie ihrer Praxis zumeist in der Provinz Galla in Sri Lanka nachgeht. Eine ausgedehnte Sammlung ihrer Übersetzungen sind auf www.metta.lk zu finden. [Quelle: persönliche Kommunikation mit Bhikkhu Mettavihari, welcher die Webseite metta.lk betreut]


Uppalavanna from Galla, Sister
(??-??) [uppa]

    Ven. sister Uppalavanna (from Galla) is a Sinhalese nun, who translated serval books of the Anguttara Nikaya into English. The name "from Galla" has been given to prevent a possible confusion with the German nun Uppalavanna and on the infomation that she uses to maintain her practice mainly in the province Galla in Sri Lanka. An extensive collection of here translations can befound on www.metta.lk . [Source: personal communication with Bhikkhu Mettavihari, the editor of metta.lk]





Usprüngliches Post:
[abgetrennt vom ursprünglichen Thema: [ U ] Schwester Uppalavana ]

Die Anfrage hierzu betreffend zur Information:

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Betreff:    Sister Uppalavannā - Anumodana
Datum:    2013-08-12 15:27
Absender:    Johann ...
Empfänger:    metta@metta.lk , metta@mail.metta.lk

 

Venerable gentleman,

Venerable ladies,

Dear supporter and maintainer of metta.lk,

first of all I like to express may gratitude for contributing the possibilities and access to so many great work on metta.lk.

Today while searching for the author of a sutta translation, I came again across Ven. Sister Uppalavannā and this time also across there inspiring life story. After seeing the face and reading two sentences I felt the urgency to forward this inheritance and started to translate it into German without reading it further.

Of course I am not much "gifted" by the talent of language I nevertheless don't like to miss the possibility to offer you this simple translation. (I have attached it, as a pdf-file). May you accept this small gift, not as a repayment, but as a further forward and maybe multiplication of your previous meritorious deeds. Simply sharing merits. I will also try to supply a revised version of the English Original, since it has some "errors", as far as I could see, and seems to be "just" scanned.

Independent of this, I would like to ask if I would be able to give some assistance in maintaining your works such as formatting, converting and maybe even adding internal links. Of course also in this aspect I am not perfect and not professional, but maybe it would be nevertheless use- and helpful.


Furthermore, also independent of the previous questions and the translation, I would like to ask, if it would be possible and acceptable for you, to use some selected translations of Ven. Sister Uppalavannā to integrate them on zugangzureinsicht.org, a German-English independent "mirror" site of accesstoinsight.org in english and with a German translation of it as well.

Please do not feel disturbed by all I have mentioned and asked for here and please do also feel not distressed if my kind of approach is not usual for you, as well, please don't feel the necessity and obligation to consist anything out of my approach.

Thank you very much for your time and interest.

 


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Feel welcome!

Es gab nie eine Rückmeldung und ich konnte auch bis heute nicht herausfinden, wer diese Webseite betreibt und wer sich um das Vermächtnis von Schwester Uppalavannā kümmert, ein Paar Links führen zu einer Australischen Organisation, aber gewisse Dinge haben mich bisher abgehalten dort nachzuhaken.

Diese und ähnliche Verweise befinden sich in diversen Arbeiten, die als Word-Files auf der Seite ohne Quell- und Betreiberinformation vorhanden sind.

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Publisher's Note

The Anguttara Nikaya is one of the five sections of the Sutta Pitaka which in turns is one of the three "baskets" of the Pali Canon of Theravada Buddhism. The Pali Canon records the discourses of the Buddha and his principal disciples. It was systematised shortly after the passing away of the Buddha and was committed to writing about four centuries later.
The Anguttara Nikaya is divided into 11 sections, each called a nipta. These sections are arranged in numerical order, each section dealing with a number of related things according to the order of the Nipata. The passages included in the present collection have been made from the first four nipatas, as follows:

Ekaka Nipata        1 3
Duka Nipata4
Tika Nipata5   30
Catukka Nipata31   35

Sister Uppalawanna has made further selections from the remaining nipatas, and these may be published later in the BSQ Tracts on Buddhism series.
Buddhist Society of Queensland



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Re: Unangebrachte und Mühsehlig ist nicht das selbe
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 10:17:04 PM »
Hier dazu vielleicht auch die Übersetzung von der ehrenwerten Schwester Uppalavanna

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

7. Dukkathàsuttaü Ý Unpleasant talk
...

Im übrigen ein sehr wichtiges Sutta, das sicher auf ZzE fehlt. Wenn jemand um eine angebrachte (wenn auch vielleicht unangenehme) Übersetzung bitten möchte: Sadhu!!



translation:

Here, relating to that, the translation by the Ven. Sister Uppalavanna

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

7. Dukkathàsuttaü Ý Unpleasant talk
...

Furthermore, a very important Sutta, that is certainly missing on ZzE. If someone would like to ask for a proper (if even unpleasent) translation: Sadhu!


Habe mir erlaubt, diesem Vorschlag nachzukommen und bei dem Betreiber von metta.lk, dem Ehrw. Bhante Mettavihari, nachgefragt.

Hier die Antwort:


I have a allowed myself to follow this suggestion and asked the maintainer of metta.lk, the Ven. Bhante Mettavihari.

Here the reply:

Quote from: Bhante Mettavihari
Greetings Moritz ..,

The pali cannon and Sister Upalavanna's Translations and the Sinhala Translations are free for you to use as is.

If you change anything in Sister Upalavanna's translation in your site then please remove the reference to her Translation. This is a request by Sister Upalavanna.

I would like to introduce you to Ven Sujato who is doing much more than I on textual matter and please do have a look at his website as well as corporate with him.

He is looking for both German and French versions of Translations.
Sujato Bhikkhu <[---e-mail address---]>
http://suttacentral.net

I have more or less frozen the work on http://metta.lk
since I am more involved in Television Work at the moment http://learntv.lk

with metta
Mettavihari



Und die Klärung einiger Fragen im weiteren Verlauf:

And clarification of some important questions in the further course of conversation:

Quote from: Moritz
Dear Venerable Bhante Mettavihari,


thank you very much for your helpful response.

I am very happy that we are allowed to share the texts given on metta.lk further. Anumodana!

Regarding your remark: No, we would not change anything in the texts. And thank you very much for the hint. Of course, it is important to know about and respect the author's intentions. And it was certainly a sign of conscientious care and foresight by the venerable Sister Uppalavanna to assert such conditions.

We would, however, apart from republishing them as they are, certainly like to use the texts as a basis for further translations (to German), to be shared as a gift of Dhamma. In doing that, we would always refer to the original work and make it clear that this is a (lay) translation of the given English translation. I trust that this is a good and proper way. If you have any concerns, please don't hesitate to express them. I am very grateful for your help. And any advice is welcome.

Regarding the texts by Sister Uppalavanna I have another question: As you are certainly aware, Sister Uppalavanna was originally from Germany (formerly Else Buchholtz). This is one reason why I would be more than happy for her works to be more accessible in the German speaking sphere. I think to come upon such things could be very inspiring for many, as people can relate in some way they would not otherwise have thought of. Recently a friend had translated this memorial text by some devoted Sinhalese laypeople, which he also found on metta.lk: metta.lk/english/sister-uppalavanna.html. I had not formerly heard of Sister Uppalavanna. It was a very uplifting read.

So I think, in this regard, it can be especially of great help and inspiration to make her textual work also accessible in German. Of course, at this, the immediate question comes to mind, if she might not possibly already have translated sutta texts or written other Dhamma related texts in German as well? If you know anything about that, this would be really great.

And thank you for referring me further to Bhante Sujato. Yes, I am aware of SuttaCentral, although I did not have a very deep look into it.
I am sure it will be a helpful resource for many. I will try to get in touch with Ajahn Sujato.

And sorry for the quite long delay. My internet connection was cut off for a couple of days. And then I was involved in several other things. So it took a while to reply.

Thank you for your patience, and, once more, for your kind assistance.

All the best and kind regards

_/\_

Moritz



Quote from: Bhante Mettavihari
Greetings

Just an important small correction.

Sister Upalavanna is not the German Sister Upalavanna referred to on my website.
The Translator of the texts is a Sinhala Nun living mostly in Galle district.

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Mettavihari

Übersetzung:
Quote from: Bhante Mettavihari (translated to German)
Grüße

Bloß eine wichtige kleine Korrektur.

Schwester Upalavanna ist nicht die deutsche Schwester Upalavanna, auf die auf meiner Webseite verwiesen wird.
Die Übersetzerin der Texte ist eine singhalesische Nonne, die hauptsächlich im Galle-Distrikt lebt.

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Mettavihari

Quote from: Moritz
Oh, okay. Thank you very much, Bhante, for that information. That is important to know to not spread misattributions.


Kind regards
and Anumodana!

Moritz



Wir sollten also die falschen Angaben im Autorenverzeichnis korrigieren.

Vielen Dank an dieser Stelle an den ehrw. Mettavihari für die Richtigstellung und für die wohlwollende Zustimmung, die Sutta-Übersetzungen von Schwester Upalavanna (aus Sri Lanka) als Dhamma-Dana weiter zu geben.

Anumodana!


So we should correct the wrong attributions in the list of authors .

Many thanks at this point to the Ven. Mettavihari for the correction and for the well-wishing consent to share the sutta translations by sister Upalavanna (from Sri Lanka) further as Dhamma-Dana.

Anumodana!

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Re: Re: Unangebrachte und Mühsehlig ist nicht das selbe
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 10:32:30 PM »
Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

Nicht nur Gratulation, Mitfreude und Respekt, sondern auch einen Riesen Dank für die Mühen und vor allem das Nachfragen, beiden: dem Ehrwürdigen Bhante Mettavihari und Dir Moritz.

Da wird einiges lichter und erfreulich.

Würde mich auch mehr als freuen, wenn es Dir gelingt den Ehrw. Ajahn Sujato einzuladen und zu gewinnen. Ich hatte da kein Händchen und hab sicherlich auch scharfe Kritik an ihm geübt. Bin aber wie überall und gegenüber allen wohl gestimmt und zuversichtlich.

Ich vertrauen darauf, daß es passt, wenn ich diesen Beitrag zu den Anfragen verschiebe.

Anumdodana!

much mudita

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Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

Not only congratulation, sympathetic joy and respect, but also big thanks for your care and work and especially for questioning deeper, in direction of both of you: the Ven. Bhante Mettavihari and to you Moritz.

Now there are many things lighter and cause of joy.

Ich would be very glad, if you are able to invite Ven. Ajahn Sujato and get him involved. I had not much skill in doing so and for sure, I used to do some sharp critics on some of his deeds. But I am like always and in regard of everybody good minded and confident.

I trust that it is ok, that I cut of this posts and put it together with the corresponding topic.

Anumadana!

much mudita

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Re: Anfrage Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2014, 10:58:25 AM »
Hab gesehen, daß du schon etwas ergänzt und ausgebessert hast. Danke.

Hab die werte Schwester als "Schwester Uppalavana von Galle" eingeführt (siehe auch OP) und auch auf der engl. Seite ergänzt. Ihr Übersetzercode/html-präfix ist [uppa]

Hoffe wir haben uns hier nicht überschnitten.

Hab sie auch in der tech/file - Liste und im verzeichnis der Beisteuernden Übersetzer aufgenommen (die übrigens gerade eine nette Beschäftigung ist  :) )

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2014, 05:53:11 PM »
Um den umfangreicheren Geschenk als der übliche Standard gerecht zu werden, habe ich mir erlaubt einer einerseits eine eigne Klasse für das <fieldset id="F_publisherColophonzze"> einzuführen und einen Text entsprechend des Geschenkes beigefügt.

Bei Veröffenlichungen und Übersetzungen aus diesem Geschenk einfach nach <div id="F_colophon"> einfügen.



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Anmerkung des Herausgebers:

Diese Übersetzung ist ein großzügiges Geschenk des Autors, der Ehrw. Schwester Uppalavanna als Dhamma-Dana. Es steht Ihnen frei diese Übersetzung für Ihre heilsamen Vorhaben, wie immer Sie möchten, zu nutzen. In dem Fall, daß Sie den Inhalt verändern wollen, bittet die Authorin darum, ihren Namen als Übersetzer auf dem veränderten Werk zu entfernen, sodaß keinerlei Verwirrung gestiftet werden mag. Anumodana!

Bhikkhu Mettavihari
Bearbeiter von metta.lk
(Im Namen der Ehrw. Schwester Uppalavannas Absicht)

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<fieldset id="F_publisherColophonzze"><legend>Anmerkung des Herausgebers:</legend><p>Diese Übersetzung ist ein großzügiges Geschenk des Autors, der Ehrw. Schwester Uppalavanna als Dhamma-Dana. Es steht Ihnen frei diese Übersetzung für Ihre heilsamen Vorhaben, wie immer Sie möchten, zu nutzen. In dem Fall, daß Sie den Inhalt verändern wollen, bittet die Authorin darum, ihren Namen als Übersetzer auf dem veränderten Werk zu entfernen, sodaß keinerlei Verwirrung gestiftet werden mag. Anumodana!
<p>Bhikkhu Mettavihari<br />
Bearbeiter von <a href="http://www.metta.lk/" class="offsite" target="offsite">metta.lk</a><br />
(Im Namen der Ehrw. Schwester Uppalavannas Absicht)<br />
</p></fieldset>

To be able to forward the special size of the gift, which is a little above the usual standard, I created a special class <fieldset id="F_publisherColophonzze">  to forward the gift in a proper way.

In cases of publications and Translations out of this gift, just put the attaches lines after <div id="F_colophon">.

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Publisher's note

This translation is generously given by the author, Ven. Sister Uppalavanna, as a Dhamma-Dana gift. You are free to use this translation for skillful purposes as you wish. In the case you like to change the content, the author kindly ask you to remove her name from the alteration so that nobody could get confused. Anumodana!

Bhikkhu Mettavihari
Editor of metta.lk
(On behalf of Ven. Sister Uppalavanna intention)

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	<fieldset id="F_publisherColophonzze"><legend>Publisher's note</legend><p>This translation is generously given by the author, Ven. Sister Uppalavanna, as a Dhamma-Dana gift. You are free to use this translation for skillful purposes as you wish. In the case you like to change the content, the author kindly ask you to remove her name from the alteration so that nobody could get confused. Anumodana!
<p>Bhikkhu Mettavihari<br />
Editor of <a href="http://www.metta.lk/" class="offsite" target="offsite">metta.lk</a><br />
(On behalf of Ven. Sister Uppalavanna intention)<br />
</p></fieldset>

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2014, 09:09:35 PM »
Sadhu!

Danke für das Abnehmen dieser Arbeit, und aufmerksam machen. Ich hätte nicht dran gedacht.

Vielleicht ist es gut, wenn ich den ehrw. Bhikkhu Mettavihari deswegen noch einmal anschreibe und ihn frage, ob ihm das so recht ist, oder er eventuell etwas anders formulieren will.

Ich denke, dazu wäre es nicht verkehrt, schon einmal das Dukkhata Sutta als Beispiel einzuarbeiten, um das Ergebnis einsehen zu können.
Ich würde das gleich machen, falls du nicht schon dabei bist.

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Sadhu!

Thank you for taking on that work, and arousing attention. I would not have thought of this.

Perhaps it is good if I write to the Ven. Bhikkhu Mettavihari once more about this, and ask whether it is alright for him in this way, or if he might perhaps want to choose a different formulation.

I think, for this, it would not be wrong to already integrate the Dukkhata Sutta as an example, so that the result would be visible.
I will start doing this now, if you are not already at it.

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2014, 10:33:32 PM »
Schon gemacht, Moritz, schon gemacht.

Sicher ist es immer gut, Bescheid zu geben, wenn etwas angekommen ist.


Already made, Moritz, already made.

Of cause it is always good to tell if things find their place.


http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.157.uppa_en.html
http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.157.uppa.html

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2014, 10:46:11 PM »
Sadhu! Danke.


Sadhu! Thank you.

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2014, 11:25:49 PM »
Ich würde langsam daran arbeiten, die übrigen Übersetzungen von Schwester Uppalavanna von metta.lk einzuarbeiten.

Ich denke, es wird einige Zeit dauern.

Bevor man sie in den Seiten-Index aufnimmt, ist es denke ich gut, auf Antwort auf diese E-Mail zu warten:



I would start slowly working on integrating the rest of the translations by Sister Upalavanna from metta.lk.

I think it will take some time.

Before integrating them into the site's index, I think it is good to wait for a reply to this e-mail:

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Venerable Bhante Mettavihari,

my friend Johann has already done some preparatory work for integrating the Ven. Sister Upalavanna's sutta translations on the website zugangzureinsicht.org.

In order to conform with the wishes and intentions of Sister Upalavanna, as you mentioned, he has already sketched a "publisher's note" that should be displayed at the bottom of each of the offered sutta translations' pages, as follows:

    Publisher's note

    This translation is generously given by the author, Ven. Sister Uppalavanna, as a Dhamma-Dana gift. You are free to use this translation for skillful purposes as you wish. In the case you like to change the content, the author kindly asks you to remove her name from the alteration so that nobody could get confused. Anumodana!

    Bhikkhu Mettavihari
    Editor of metta.lk
    (On behalf of Ven. Sister Uppalavanna's intention)


You can see how it looks on the web page along with the rest of the copyright/dana information here, at the example of the Dukkhata Sutta (AN 5.157): http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.157.upal_en.html, when you click on "more" at the bottom of the page.


It would be good if you could tell us whether you agree with this suggested display and the wording of this publisher's note, or if you would like to change it and use your own words.

Thank you very much for your help.

Kind regards

_/\_

Moritz

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2014, 12:08:15 AM »
Note: I had already integrated the sutta with the suffix "upal", without seeing that it was already done with "uppa". I think "uppa" is better, as I think "Uppalavanna" is the correct spelling.

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2014, 01:41:03 AM »
[color=#gray]Ich würde langsam daran arbeiten, die übrigen Übersetzungen von Schwester Uppalavanna von metta.lk einzuarbeiten.

Ich denke, es wird einige Zeit dauern.

Bevor man sie in den Seiten-Index aufnimmt, ist es denke ich gut, auf Antwort auf diese E-Mail zu warten:[/color]


I would start slowly working on integrating the rest of the translations by Sister Upalavanna from metta.lk.

I think it will take some time.

Before integrating them into the site's index, I think it is good to wait for a reply to this e-mail:

Eine große Herausforderung mit vielen Freiheiten und viel Verantwortung, ein Geschenk an dem man nur wachsen kann. Ich denke langsam, bedacht, mit wachsendem Wissen und Fingerspitzengefühl, ist es mehr als würdig der Aufgabe des besten Nutzens dessen nach zu gehen um nicht nur ein Museum und/oder großes Lager zu erstehen. Doch immer sind eben die Tücken ja eigentlich das Größte, die es zu überwinden gilt.

Freu mich. Mudita.


A great challenge with a lot of freedom and much responsibility, a gift which is headed for groth. I guess slowliy, with concern, with increasing knowledge and necessary flair, it is more then worthy to take on the duty and make the best use of it so that it does not lead just to a museum of storage place. As always are the hazard the measures, which are needed to be overcome.

'm very pleasant. Mudita.

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2014, 11:40:58 AM »
 :-* :-* :-*

Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2014, 03:08:53 AM »

A great challenge with a lot of freedom and much responsibility, a gift which is headed for groth. I guess slowliy, with concern, with increasing knowledge and necessary flair, it is more then worthy to take on the duty and make the best use of it so that it does not lead just to a museum of storage place. As always are the hazard the measures, which are needed to be overcome.

'm very pleasant. Mudita.

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Danke fürs Aufmerksam machen.

Ich bin nicht interessiert an großen Herausforderungen und viel Verantwortung und Aufgaben. Ich glaube, da habe ich schon zu viel aufgenommen. Das war nur wieder voreilig gesagt: Ich mach das. Tut mir leid. Könnte es doch bestenfalls treiben wie ein Kuhhirte und wüsste auch wirklich nichts besseres.



Thanks for making aware.

I am not interested in great challenges and much responsibility and duties. I think I have already taken up far too much. That was once more said prematurely: I'll do that. Sorry. In best case I could do it like a cowherd , and would not know any better.



Hier zur Information noch die Antwort des ehrw. Mettavihari auf die letzte E-Mail:

Here, for information relevant to the topic, the last reply from Ven. Mettavihari to the last e-mail:

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Greetings

This is fine.
but you need not go to that extent if you just like it simple.
If anyone asks then tell them.

with metta
Mettavihari

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Venerable Bhante Mettavihari,

my friend Johann has already done some preparatory work for integrating the Ven. Sister Upalavanna's sutta translations on the website zugangzureinsicht.org.

In order to conform with the wishes and intentions of Sister Upalavanna, as you mentioned, he has already sketched a "publisher's note" that should be displayed at the bottom of each of the offered sutta translations' pages, as follows:

    Publisher's note

    This translation is generously given by the author, Ven. Sister Uppalavanna, as a Dhamma-Dana gift. You are free to use this translation for skillful purposes as you wish. In the case you like to change the content, the author kindly asks you to remove her name from the alteration so that nobody could get confused. Anumodana!

    Bhikkhu Mettavihari
    Editor of metta.lk
    (On behalf of Ven. Sister Uppalavanna's intention)


You can see how it looks on the web page along with the rest of the copyright/dana information here, at the example of the Dukkhata Sutta (AN 5.157): http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.157.upal_en.html, when you click on "more" at the bottom of the page.


It would be good if you could tell us whether you agree with this suggested display and the wording of this publisher's note, or if you would like to change it and use your own words.

Thank you very much for your help.

Kind regards

_/\_

Moritz


So, it is alright. Thanks once more to Bhante Mettavihari.

Of course I think it is good to include the information about the request by Sister Uppalavanna.



Yes, collecting for a museum. Nothing else what I'm doing here, losing all sense of direction for the rest of my worldly life.


May all have some peace of mind and remember there's life outside the internet.

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 09:26:10 AM »
"zsss..." vom Sein-Wollen, dann gradewegs zum Nicht-sein Wollen...

Freut mich aber, das du die Gefahr des "Uposatha der Kuhhirten" darin erkennst. Aber nicht ist es so, das diese Arbeit etwas dem höchsten Uposatha widerspricht, ganz im Gegenteil.

Dazwischen ist die Herausforderung. "Ich bin nicht interessiert an großen Herausforderungen und viel Verantwortung und Aufgaben.", ist sehr nobel, wenn's auch wirklich nobel ist.

Ich hatte mehr daran gedacht, daß die Übersetzungen von der werten Schwester manchmal gut sind so zu übernehmen, manche vielleicht gut sind als Grundlage zu verwenden eine gute Übersetzung daraus vielleicht entstehen zu lassen und manche vielleicht nicht so wichtig und gut sind.
Freu mich auch sehr, daß sie nicht mehr, wegen weltlicher Beschäftigung einfach "eingefroren" sind. Und man wartet auch nicht, daß jemand fragt, wenn man etwas geben kann.
Dinge die leider viel zu oft falsch vermittelt werden auch wenn gut gemeint.

Buddhas Worte nicht vergessen:

"Diese zwei sind Dummköpfe. Welche zwei? Der jener, der eine Last (Aufgabe) auf sich nimmt, die nicht auf ihn gefallen ist und jener, der eine Last (Aufgabe) nicht auf sich nimmt, die es ist. Diese zwei sind Dummköpfe."

Also die Aussage für einen Praktizierenden: keine Aufgaben anzunehmen, ist eher die Entwicklung der Jains. Für einen der das Ziel erreicht hat sicher, "Nichts weiter für diese Welt zu tun".

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Re: [U1] Übersetzungen der Schwester Uppalavana von Galle (inkl. Anfage)
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2014, 03:55:48 AM »
Aber es ist dumm, eine Aufgabe anzunehmen, die man nicht erfüllen kann. Und dann nicht zu sagen: Tut mir leid, das ist mehr, als ich kann.

Ich habe sicher noch jede Menge "für diese Welt zu tun", und kann nicht dauernd in abgehobenen Sphären schwelgen. Denn nichts anderes ist das, was dabei rauskäme, würde ich da versuchen, die Spreu vom Weizen zu trennen.

Ich danke dir ja, dass du schon einige der Übersetzungen gut eingebracht hast. Ich könnte das nicht. Wirklich nicht.

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