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2020 May 29 20:39:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 19:56:20
Johann: What ever sacrificed toward the Sublime Gems, toward liberation, such is condition for no more flowing back into the world. Mudita

2020 May 29 08:40:16
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:34:50
Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

2020 May 29 08:33:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:27:03
Johann: If one would know or remembering the suffering behind pleasing form, sound, smell, taste, touch, one certain would no more desire after it. But because lof lack of remembering and proper attention, beings go after it, take birth, age, get sick, seperated, die, again and again, keeping the flame of k

2020 May 29 08:15:29
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:15:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 07:42:53
Johann: If ones sacrifices, generosity, isn't protected by a good closed tank, less fruits can be expected. And what is the tank made of? Saddha, Pasada, metta, Sila, intention for own and others independency.

2020 May 29 06:36:24
Johann: A blessed Siladay all who are doing it today

2020 May 28 19:24:28
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 28 18:32:00
Moritz: Upgrade to SMF 2.0.17 has been completed. Everything running smooth for everybody?

2020 May 23 06:43:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 22 21:09:34
Johann: May all still continue to spend a blessed New moon Uposatha till break on of a new day (of course good to continue without break). Mudita

2020 May 21 20:16:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 21 19:30:50
Johann: Nothing more a blessing as to do not cling to a specific Nikaya, since one can easy take the opportunity of doing theUposatha often two days a new. May all always make the best of given possibilities.

2020 May 20 21:19:41
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 20 20:44:31
Cheav Villa: May Bhante get well soon.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 20 20:43:13
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 14:55:14
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 12:17:04
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 21:21:28
Johann: Nyom Sophorn

2020 May 17 07:36:11
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 17 07:14:16
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 06:01:03
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 May 16 20:42:01
Johann: Bhante

2020 May 15 20:13:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 15 19:17:25
Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

2020 May 14 09:09:08
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 14 06:17:12
Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 12 19:10:56
Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

2020 May 10 15:27:11
Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

2020 May 10 15:26:00
Johann: "stand", taking, holding a stand makes it possible more understandable and fits better to it.

2020 May 10 15:24:35
Johann: Welcome Depabasadhamma, Atma will open a topic on it.

2020 May 10 15:04:51
Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

2020 May 09 21:15:38
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:48:57
Johann: Apsara in Pali: accharā, translation actually "A Whoo!"

2020 May 09 20:45:38
Johann: "...“Then take joy, Nanda. Take joy! I am your guarantor for getting 500 dove-footed nymphs.”..."

2020 May 09 20:45:17
Johann: "“What do you think, Nanda? Which is lovelier, better looking, more charming: the Sakyan girl, the envy of the countryside, or these 500 dove-footed nymphs?”..."

2020 May 09 20:43:26
Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

2020 May 09 19:24:05
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 09 19:08:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 19:00:58
Johann: When not working he is already used to where his beige light clean cloth, morning, noon, evening and already good organized.

2020 May 09 18:52:05
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 07 15:18:07
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 10:33:24
Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

2020 May 07 10:21:10
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 07 10:19:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 07 06:02:32
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 05:46:38
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
Johann: followed by another overload by huawei-search engines... fixed

2020 May 04 20:31:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

2020 May 03 21:13:46
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 20:32:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 03 12:53:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 May 03 12:07:17
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 26 20:23:57
Cheav Villa: and Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:30
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:25
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 08:18:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 07:18:02
Johann: Ādīnava , អដីនវ, As one of ten perceptions: AN 10.60

2020 Apr 26 07:09:32
Johann: May Dukkha be visible for all, so to stay on the path  that leads beyond and liberation.

2020 Apr 25 16:57:34
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 25 15:54:00
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 23 18:41:59
Johann: Sadhu for care to report and assist

2020 Apr 23 18:39:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana now not get notification.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 23 15:04:07
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 23 13:45:57
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 22 11:17:56
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Apr 22 06:38:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 Apr 22 05:45:37
Khemakumara: karuṇā, corona? which one prefers?   may it a fruit- and pathful Uposatha!

2020 Apr 21 19:53:51
Johann: If Nyom likes to use Atmas tablet and Sim, just pick it up at any time.

2020 Apr 21 19:49:09
Moritz: Smart connection works well.

2020 Apr 21 19:48:53
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante, mobile hotspot from the cave does not really reach well here. So can be turned off. Thank you. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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And as Nyom Moritz came up, wishing to give water, as the required detail on the tank have been fixed, huge warm rain felt down, filling all tanks, althought not letting them filled full, 1/3 in minutes.

And yes, there are other reasons why Atma hurries to finsh the needed buildings with all what is given and avaliable, can be made by tiny power of bodily strength.

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The quick made inlet building was of course swept away quickly. First large shower and wash, at the same time, after a good while dust and dirt.

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Upasika Cheav Villa wrote in Telegram:

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Villa, [28.05.20 14:46]
Hello

Villa, [28.05.20 14:54]
Any thing like brick, concret,..

Villa, [28.05.20 14:55]
Do you know the exact amount need to use now?

Villa, [28.05.20 14:59]
As Pou Chanroth reported about 1000bricks needed to buy now and Vithou asked me to confirm from you.

Villa, [28.05.20 15:15]
🙏

Villa, [28.05.20 15:58]
And why Bhante break the concret inside and recycle used?

Not sure where to better put this. But maybe here is a good start.

As I don't know about the exact plans for materials and generally don't understand much about building, and what is possible to do with leftovers, maybe Bhante Johann can provide some answers?

* Moritz and why not just simply directly ask here? :)

I will try to answer as far as I understand.

As to the question why using broken concrete as recycling material: because that is available, and Bhante seems to always have ideas how to use what is there. Broken concrete can be used well to mix into fresh concrete in some cases, apparently (like roof of the water tank). At the moment, all delivered sand is (more or less) used up. But as Bhante said, now after rain, new sand from the path will be washed down to collect. I don't know how much in total would be needed for this and that. I also don't know how many red bricks for the new cave wall. A small load is still left at the foot.

(The floor in the cave is being broken as planned, to be put a bit lower in the middle, to make it all on one level up until the Buddha statue which will remain at its higher place.)

I hope Bhante can provide some clearer answers when seeing this message, or I will ask him next morning.

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Good if avaliable: Just much sand (up the hill as far as possible) (8m3 - 1,5m3 used = ~ 6,5m3 rest), and cement soon (2 bags left of ten, total 50 = 42 left), of course per day only 1/2 to 1 bag is used. Sure some wood for model (thought of no bricks at all).

No idea why 1000 bricks (even possible red) since in total, like thought at the beginning, 450 selfmade concrete bricks had been thought of.

Red bricks are generally useless stuff, need lot of work, worse quality and useless for construction building parts, and infect the health, life, forest, enviroment of many badly (70% forest is gone for that useless material!, and goes)! Appart of that, sure 1000+ of the old wall can be re-used in combination with constructive concrete-work.

Generally: some sand is fine, some cement the next days is fine. The rest: all can be used, having such, doing so, having such, doing differently.

So again: Sila first and use of own effort.

Nyom Chanroth is currently very busy, expanding and also focus, understandable, in building his own house further, has current possible less place to think much on higher and easy, as often before, fall further into debt, like last year and the upper Kuties history.

So really good not to put to much into. Till now, and a huge amout has been done, plane material of maybe 60-100$ (without door and glas stones) was used. 200 red bricks, construction iron, outher stuff, still lies on the street.

Please don't forget that the whole village builded/builds large houses currently and sure not many of them without of much credits, struggles, ceating back and for... debts, debts debts and no work, income, aside of some last trees.

(There are also 6+ old bags of concret, partly brocken, dying off, at Nyoms mothers house). The main work had been done with old material, left behind after Kuti-building stop last year.
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Just as info and overview: The old list, updated with till now given (till foot or at the cave) and used. Square breaks [...] additional/sepperate listing.

[Note! This is just a "such could be used-list" and actually all can made/organized alternatively aside of cement.]

Here (a "quick" and safe, secure) Material calculation "expanding Shrine" incl. beton floor old part, Nyom Chanroth asked for to forward to Nyom Vithou , who asked him. )

5,6 m3 concrete (incl material for 450 cement bricks):
  • [Cement bricks (local made) 450] | 0 | 50 (cast off from last year)]
  • Cement 2to | 0.5 to | 0.4 to
  • Sand 8 m3  | 1.5 m3 | 2 m3 (partly collected on forest paths)

  • [Red bricks] 0 pieces | ~120 | ~60 (+~100 old/cast off)

  • Iron 5mm 500m1| ~150 m | ~ 60 m
  • Iron 8mm 360 m1 | 0 m (some in the Village) | 0 m
  • Iron 10mm 120m m1 | 0 m (some in the Village) | 0 m
    (all maybe 300kg, =0.3 to)

  • ribble roof sheets (as "lost" formwork of roof) = 25 m2 | 0 | 3 m (from old left over material)

  • door (200x80) = 2 pieces | 1 | 1
  • window (150x80) = 3 pieces 0 | 0
  • window (80x100) = 2 pieces | 0 | 2 (made from cast off wood)
    (doors and windows can be made by oneself with old cast of wood, if avaliable)
    (Iron could be reduced to all in 8mm instead of the some 10mm)

  • formwork wood (cheap, 1cm): 5 m2 (= 5 boards 5x0.2m) | 0.5 m2 | 1.5 m2 (from cast off material

  • (floor plattes/tales, gray or dirty white or brick red (no design, mono color) = 18 (new area) = 25m2 (old) = about 45 m2  | 0 | 0

  • scaffold wood (wood from death yound trees, 3-4cm, death bamboo) from the woods around): 25 pieces about 3m  | 0 | 0

  • Wall painting color white (only inside): 30m2 | 0 | 0

  • PVC-Pipe (rain water): 80mm:  5m; | 0 | 0
  • PVC-pipe 50mm: 10m | 0 | 0
  • [PCV-pipe 30mm: | 0 | 3 m (cast off)]

    others:
  • - nails (4cm, 8cm) | 0 | using cast off
  • - wire to bind iron | 0 | using cast off
  • - what ever old, cast off wood board, scantling | (some cast off from North monastery | all in use
  • - padlock [lock 2] | 1 | 1

    [Small stuff:]
  • Outlet ventil [tanks] 2 | 0 | 1 (old one)
  • Simple tools (most very old, own made, cast off, or already broken)


This material should be enough for the whole expandig part incl. restore of old part complete this useable.

(painting of samvega art and the four noble truth (gray, black) by dhammic artist. Color (black), and brushs.

Old wall and floor will be cut in squares and reused).


Progress (%):

Works:
  • - water protection in on north side outside 0%
  • - covering of no-stone parts in the old area (water, animal and falling down of dirt and stones - protection) 98%
  • - remove of old wall by steps when a roof section is finisched 8%
  • - even floor in old part (refilling ground of new part) 10%
  • - construction works for new roof part 0%
  • - small walls and roof at the east entrance and nord 75 %

  • - [main stairway 95%]
  • - [north stairway and path 50%]
  • - [watertank 80%]

    Bildingparts:
    restor old part of shrine, higher room high and no more walking bend over, to gain no head hit, necessary  (~25 m2)
    new tract (~ 20 m2)
    entrance restored and closed
    stairways (east entrance, south-west secondary door)
    water collection of about 60 m2 rain surface (30 m3 water with one strong rain)
[Material that was declated (in Atmas presents) to be given, either not delivered, later maybe not given , lost or borrowed:
~ 0.5to cement (from 2to donated last year - group Akyum for upper Kuti and Uposatha hall)
1to cement + 1 load sand (group Chea Mongl, for general use)
2, 3 bags cement (visitor last weeks, for cave expanding)]

* Johann : Gun shoots, 300m away, at the stream, possible wild hunting on south plantage area... (actually 'daily' normality around in Aural-district here, but usually more far and remote).
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Still merely exhausted, little cold, Atma decided not to go for alms. Just as Nyom Moritz thought to go down to the village, Nyom Chanroth, thoughtful, brought up meal enough for two. As Anumodana he got an intensive talk on debts and that only "not cramping and not stopping" would be the only way. Cramping, holding on strong, one just turns arround, ever the same again, year for year, life for life. Stopping, althought often thought as easy escape, not free yet, is a garanted lane downwardly.

The rains may fill the forest-path with sand again... what ever brought up will flow down.

The tank isn't water-proof for now, will need another layer plaster and Nyom Moritz decided to look after using the avaliable pipe to lay it out for filling the plastic tank from here, so that not all water runs away and later other might worry again.

At large "rain-pause" and just small steps, one by one, with what is avaliable and can be done by oneself.
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