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2020 May 31 18:52:13
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2020 May 30 07:05:43
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2020 May 30 06:51:35
Johann: Those taking on the Uposatha today: may many follow your encouragement when leading after near and those depending on you.

2020 May 29 20:39:55
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2020 May 29 19:56:20
Johann: What ever sacrificed toward the Sublime Gems, toward liberation, such is condition for no more flowing back into the world. Mudita

2020 May 29 08:40:16
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2020 May 29 08:34:50
Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

2020 May 29 08:33:20
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2020 May 29 08:27:03
Johann: If one would know or remembering the suffering behind pleasing form, sound, smell, taste, touch, one certain would no more desire after it. But because lof lack of remembering and proper attention, beings go after it, take birth, age, get sick, seperated, die, again and again, keeping the flame of k

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2020 May 29 08:15:19
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2020 May 29 07:42:53
Johann: If ones sacrifices, generosity, isn't protected by a good closed tank, less fruits can be expected. And what is the tank made of? Saddha, Pasada, metta, Sila, intention for own and others independency.

2020 May 29 06:36:24
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2020 May 28 19:24:28
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2020 May 28 18:32:00
Moritz: Upgrade to SMF 2.0.17 has been completed. Everything running smooth for everybody?

2020 May 23 06:43:43
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2020 May 22 21:09:34
Johann: May all still continue to spend a blessed New moon Uposatha till break on of a new day (of course good to continue without break). Mudita

2020 May 21 20:16:55
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2020 May 21 19:30:50
Johann: Nothing more a blessing as to do not cling to a specific Nikaya, since one can easy take the opportunity of doing theUposatha often two days a new. May all always make the best of given possibilities.

2020 May 20 21:19:41
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 20 20:44:31
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2020 May 20 20:43:13
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2020 May 18 14:55:14
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2020 May 18 12:17:04
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 21:21:28
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2020 May 17 07:36:11
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2020 May 17 07:14:16
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 06:01:03
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2020 May 16 20:42:01
Johann: Bhante

2020 May 15 20:13:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 15 19:17:25
Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

2020 May 14 09:09:08
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2020 May 14 06:17:12
Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
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2020 May 12 19:10:56
Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

2020 May 10 15:27:11
Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

2020 May 10 15:26:00
Johann: "stand", taking, holding a stand makes it possible more understandable and fits better to it.

2020 May 10 15:24:35
Johann: Welcome Depabasadhamma, Atma will open a topic on it.

2020 May 10 15:04:51
Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

2020 May 09 21:15:38
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2020 May 09 20:48:57
Johann: Apsara in Pali: accharā, translation actually "A Whoo!"

2020 May 09 20:45:38
Johann: "...“Then take joy, Nanda. Take joy! I am your guarantor for getting 500 dove-footed nymphs.”..."

2020 May 09 20:45:17
Johann: "“What do you think, Nanda? Which is lovelier, better looking, more charming: the Sakyan girl, the envy of the countryside, or these 500 dove-footed nymphs?”..."

2020 May 09 20:43:26
Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

2020 May 09 19:24:05
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 09 19:08:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 19:00:58
Johann: When not working he is already used to where his beige light clean cloth, morning, noon, evening and already good organized.

2020 May 09 18:52:05
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 07 15:18:07
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 10:33:24
Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

2020 May 07 10:21:10
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 07 10:19:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 07 06:02:32
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 05:46:38
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
Johann: followed by another overload by huawei-search engines... fixed

2020 May 04 20:31:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

2020 May 03 21:13:46
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 20:32:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 03 12:53:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 May 03 12:07:17
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 26 20:23:57
Cheav Villa: and Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:30
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:25
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 08:18:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 07:18:02
Johann: Ādīnava , អដីនវ, As one of ten perceptions: AN 10.60

2020 Apr 26 07:09:32
Johann: May Dukkha be visible for all, so to stay on the path  that leads beyond and liberation.

2020 Apr 25 16:57:34
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 25 15:54:00
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 23 18:41:59
Johann: Sadhu for care to report and assist

2020 Apr 23 18:39:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana now not get notification.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 23 15:04:07
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 23 13:45:57
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 22 11:17:56
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Apr 22 06:38:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

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Author Topic: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing  (Read 13141 times)

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 05:41:59 PM »
Vandami, Bhante _/\_

Is it "automatical" possibel to rename the xml files according a list Atma could provide xxx.xml -> =yy3.txt, xx2.xml -> = yy4.txt...

Yes.

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And another question: Would it be possible to fetch a text under a certain tag, say "chapter" and rename files according their item under this tag?

On principle, that would be possible, yes. It seems even possible to use Khmer alphabet or other different than Roman in the name and URL: ២០._ផុស្សពុទ្ធវំសោ .
(I hope there are no hidden "dangers" of certain errors occurring when using non-western UTF-8 alphabets somewhere inside the Wiki titles.)

But maybe it would be easier to find the corresponding versions for each alphabet/script and switch between them when they are all named the same for each language?
Like it is possible at the moment with the language switch:

I think that is only possible if the files are all named in the same way for each language/script.

Maybe good if the base name for each file would be left as it is, corresponding to some code, like the XML files "e1208n.nrf0.xml" etc., but one could still add additional names, corresponding to book or chapter in the .htaccess rewrite rules .
Not sure if it is possible to set so many rules and if it could drastically reduce performance when having ten thousands of rules. ^-^


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(problem the used titel is sometimes "chaper", and if not having seemingly "book" as well as multiuse, think just on mahavagga and other aspekts, but would be perfekt for wikiuse and search)

For each language, in the '/cscd' directory there are
2915 XML files
217 of them TOC/index files (ending in .toc.xml)

2651 occurrences of "chapter"
218 occurrences of "book"

So probably for each TOC there is one book.
(There is another "tipitaka.toc.xml" in the directory above "/cscd", probably corresponding to another "book" tag for the whole Tipitaka.)

Maybe this info is useful somehow. I could try to find out other numbers and structures later.

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 06:40:32 PM »
Sadhu

My person thinks that the/a sutta/vagga code as pagename is fine. Also raised a question in regard of multilingual here ()[ATI.eu] Multilingual - one "id" (namespace), diff. Names/Title languages/script . Name the "files in different languages/different does not make sense since there are directories/root-namespaces for each. The only

Chaper, book and actually title have no real consistence over all files. Might be that certain sections have and as knowing the files a little, subchaper, chaper ... are not so sure over all. Not to speak about the "chaotic", since many compilers, commentaries.

TOC-files just build the certain directory/folder, tree with its files on the last instance/level.

At the moment the new names look like this for a vagga for example:

mula: cs-rm:(path tipitaka:sut:an:)an01.v1{anchor #s001}
attha: cs-rm:(path tipitaka:sut:an:)an01.v1_att{anchor #s001}
tika: cs-rm:(path tipitaka:sut:an:)an01.v1_tik{anchor #s001}

Indexes have been modified, put together, such es Jataka 1,2,3 or reduced by one level, like for dn or mn.

if now adding title of file (most vagga), the search is quick and easie. As long english, since search engine and other features use primary pagenames.

My person came across a plugin for indexes for the sidebar which uses the first headline (h1) of each file. If all features adress in such or similar way, act on an alias from the file it self, all is fine, yet of course work.

Having the pagenames and structur as well as titel/alias well, all chategories/folders can fall aside of the lang-level and the root-levels, like tipitaka, atthakatha, library, author,ptf... (at the time it's also corresponding to each lang build, how ever, crosslinking is hard since requires to know sometimes a path of 3-4 levels). Having a flat structur makes all very easy.

Great to know that such fetching and renaming is possible. It might need another while till all is firm. Atma might ask some questions in progress of breeding handable, simple visions and might then try to transport it well for possible actions at large.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2018, 12:10:17 AM »
Anya has been finished as well now.

The four great index should now have all files matched and each got a pagename.

It might be, that, since Tika and Anya is really not an ease, that there are double pagenames, so in this regard maybe a check if wishing to use it for a large addjusting.

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2018, 04:44:54 PM »
Nyom Moritz,

Attached a list of the whole index cs-rm-namespace as my person thought it till here.

Tree structur is equal other lang-namespaces build.

It includes the names of the indexes, title, pagename, path, cscd-file name

Thought till here was to rename the xlm file into the listed pagenames, coverting them before according implementation_cscd in regard of wiki/html code (wrap) and anchors.

h1-Title might be good being the same like title

Than there have been strong considerations to make the structur total flat which would require to rename the "index" file in proper code pagenames, after of cause the same for all othe lang-namespaces, e.g. ati "index-files" would be good to get the same codes with "_ati" attached, single files as well "_{....}" (translator) attached.

No, on a dynamic page: does not makes sense and horror in maintaining indexes and name code systems. The ATI tree modified like now is fine. Maybe just looking for keeping the name index free for automatical folder indexes via a plugin. At least the sidemap is wonderful for quick finding and teaches/trains sati, flat is just by search engine good accessable.

So far the thought and state of progress. Atma thought to go on with the restyling of the tags and files from ati.

If thinking on different ways, it's just an idea of mine and there might be better, so don't feel limited by it.

(it might be that there are some double name conflicts in the indexlist for flat structur and renaming, and not checked if all files are matched. 1 or to are not listended, as the contained only the name of a group)
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2018, 01:19:36 AM »
Vandami, Bhante _/\_

Sadhu! So just to make sure about plans to proceed:

As I understand, "readable" Latin script names/codes were used for the pages and namespaces, including also names from commentaries like: "cs-rm:anya:visuddhimagga:11._samadhiniddeso" whenever there are areas in the commentaries which do not correspond 1-to-1 to certain Tipitaka books/vaggas/pages.

If this structure is now clearly defined, it seems it would be good to use the same structure and pagenames/namespaces for all other scripts (Khmer, Thai, ...) as well.

So: Roman codes/pagenames for all scripts, in order to be able to use the language switch between different scripts.

I assume this like Bhante had in mind as well?

It could take some time (a week or more) till I can get to it, but if the names and structure of tables of content are all clearly defined in this way, I think I could import the tables of content with the same structure for all remaining scripts without much trouble.

(And for later at some point maybe: As mentioned before , might be possible to convert namespaces to use other scripts with .htaccess rules or some other tricks. Maybe even possible to switch between very different looking names with the langauge switch, with help of some JavaScript.)

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2018, 08:23:22 AM »
Nyom Moritz

All namespaces in latin scripts, yes, otherwise only troubles and the whole translation tools and lang-namespaces would be of no use at all.

The naming of folders and files now might be not perfect, such as double names, but such would be clear if starting to rename.

Other, ideologic renderings of single names can/could be made later by hand, step by step, online.

For your easy rendering, its possible good to put the files in the tree folder before, since it need to be made by hand and if not done with the root files it might be of more work, but probably the same for each lang. (on this place: anya filenames have no _any at the end and other files than the tipitaka-codes do not include the path in there name when it comes to tika and anya and simply new names. Maybe something that my person should change since it is difficuld to put them into the right folders without such a sort/search possibility in an explorer)
But if that things would not trouble to much, let it be like that for now. As Morits feels inspired to organice.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2018, 09:52:09 AM »
Sadhu. Thanks for the hints and explanations.

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(on this place: anya filenames have no _any at the end and other files than the tipitaka-codes do not include the path in there name when it comes to tika and anya and simply new names. Maybe something that my person should change since it is difficuld to put them into the right folders without such a sort/search possibility in an explorer)

It seems some deeper nesting of indexes would be good. Some things are confusing.

For example, the index/TOC:
cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:index
contains this, which is also an index/TOC:
cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani
within the same directory/namespace (cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho ).
And from there there are links to actual texts, like cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:kayapaccavekkhana , also in the same diretory.
I think it would be good if for each TOC there would be another level/directory.

If including the path in the final page name as well then of course the final name could be very long with deep directories, like

cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho.caturarakkhadipani.kayapaccavekkhana_any , or even only the filename without namespace niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho.caturarakkhadipani.kayapaccavekkhana_any could look very strange on the sitemap as well.

Or maybe just leave out such indermediary TOCs/indexes like cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani which is already completely included in another bigger index file in the same directory.

So that there would be no "caturarakkhadipani" appearing in the final path, "caturarakkhadipani" being simply part of the one big "index".

Not sure if I understand this correctly:
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Maybe something that my person should change since it is difficuld to put them into the right folders without such a sort/search possibility in an explorer
Why is it helpful to have the complete pathname also in the filename (separated with '.')? From my perspective it just produces very unnecessarily long filenames. But this is a problem with the tablet explorer software? (Don't really know what Bhante is using now.)

I could rename all files to not path-including filenames and simply put them in their "right" deeper directories if this seems helpful, (making a deep hieararchy everywhere, but with short filename in the end), but no time before next week.


(Not necessary to answer all in detail now. May Bhante find enough rest in between. I have no time to come back to this before next week.)

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2018, 01:43:38 PM »
Useally my person does things 2, 3, 4 times from the begining again. Vision in mind, then still lacking this or that, yet not perfect.

The second question is particulary reflected in the first. And if having later 2100 file and wishing to put them on their places, morits would see why.

And thats also for the brain. Some might know mn001 , that it is in the Suttapitaka, in the first vagga. But if having a file called bhu001 one would have problems.

Now one could give them a real name only. karanayametta sutta So, knowing the name, would you know which pitaka, nikaya, vagga and subvagga it belongs?

Therefor both useful systems, that of "modern" codes from ATI (western focus is on suttas and ends there) and the tree from the edlers by names.

that is why there came {pitaka}.{nikaya}.{vagga}.({subvagga}).{sutta no.} as for the filename into being.

If searching for an01.001, by the surfix _{att/tik/any} on matches them well in the preview putting the letters into the search box. On the other side, if searching via sidemap it's fine as well.

This works all fine till atthakatha Abhidhamma and parts of tika. When coming to anya it's no more that clear executeable and Anya it self contains already double and tripple naming. A certain collection has the first book and the first chaper with same name containing things not clear a counterpart of the tipitaka.

Till today, and actually having spend 100's of hour on trying to sort in fine, may person came till abouf jataka to be sure that the system would not run ugly of build on a not suitable structur.

Now this here, my person guesses, since not even abhidhamma (horrible structur) has been sorted well in the west, is the first time after tipitaka.org (which used a simple but not asumesable code and indexssystem for a stabil not dynamic storing, yet hard to find anything if not a little familar) that the whole heritage of the Sanghayana get's sorted.

It's all looked simple for my person as well. Then after you developed structure for the fist and second level, after the 10 file you match a new vagga/subvagga structur... Since from jakata on there is since longer no much broad interest, Anya is like the book shelf in a studend room and not like a chemist register.

Practical Anya:

Caturārakkhadīpanī is a book under the collection Nīti-gantha-saṅgaho in Anya-Commentaty and contains serial book. Within the is the Caper Kāyapaccavekkhaṇā which is the actual file (pagename)

To come to it one follows the indexes (pagenames under the namespace tree calked index) one after another or more direct, since the fist index contains already the whole structur. Thats right, sub indexes are not really necessary if the fist already contains the whole.

So it has more practical reasons. For example think on an, mn, iti. If knowing the system of the Sanghayana one knows that iti is a subvagga of kn. Same counts danger counts for mn. there is no mn123 in the sanghayana edition. It came from many people focusing on a certain levels "gemeinsames vielfaches).

Now, for example, if on works out Visudhimagga the first book, he might expand the capters index and if finished, might copy it into the index of visudhimagga, even to the anya index. Another might work from another level...

It means it has been the result of practical work in the worst situation of knowing the whole of particalar parts. Since it will stay dynamic, the further levels indexes have been not deleted (like cscd) but serve 2 purposes easy to acces in both directions, on which level ever one might enter, and to focus on a scale suitable to ones concentration and reminding and then put it together upwardly, downwardy.

Thats why this system from of pitaka, nikaya, vagga has been keep here as well and the structure is either by name flat (aside anya for all files) but also physical in levels, not only presented by a digital tree like the xml in cscd. If looking on the flat system of cscd one will fine att file codes in the tipitaka and so on. Meaning that even this simple system runned out ugly after finding out detail from the elders.

Further, the middle placed indexes are thought to get enriched by single chapers within one file (anchor content #v1...v5) and the deepes would contain later also the single suttas links (anchor #s001...s057) of the files. Meaning getting a zoom level by level. For one index that becomes to large.

But as told, open to others as well. Just knowing that it can serve for "headage" for weeks and month, yet next day finding out... "ok, again from the beginning". It's like doing/training Jhana, mastering the worlds.  :) That is why doing = sacrify has it's benefit = having learned a skill.

So know that Nyom has to structer something that probably nobody knows as a whole in it's various details and structur. It needs to be open in that far and "nachvollziehbar" for others, as well as accessable for people coming from differen learnsystems. West does not know the way of the elders and elders do not know the code-thinking of western.

For example look at ATI where it ends and beginns to go astray of suttacentral, having trouble with vinaya and abhidhamma and possible no logical way to ever add the commentaries, yet references to brahmic text from nepal.

But as told, while knowing that even some parts of the suttapitaka in the tipitaka have to be chanced, it can not be expected to be perfect or to work out to be perfect before putting it into the shelf.

If particular names have to chanced late on, if the is no double naming on the pagename level, such can be made by steps online if the whole structur has certain consistence as a whole.5z

Things open to do at this point if wishing to do it in a larfe scale:

- proof and eventually correcting indexes and names of files
- renaming of files
- converting into wiki/wrap standard
- implementing anchors to the single suttas, chapters
- incl. Data table to each file (titel, url, date, origin...)
- upload into the folders (or incl folders) in the single lang-namespaces

So it's really open how one like to do it, but its not really a quick job to develop such, at least for my persons limits.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2018, 09:28:32 PM »
a Haa... that solves much (one each page has its heading for friendly displa Configuration Setting: useheading and IndexMenu Plugin for not needing to edit the indexes (possible, just would not give corresponding accesslink to the public tipitaka.org pages). Atma installs it for testing, assuming its welcome and given.

A sample of this index is now put on http://accesstoinsight.eu/doku.php?id=cs-rm:index#index

The use heading opinion nicely displays the title names now, will filenames (in code) are matched as fine selection as when typed into the search box.

Still a combination of both to display would be fine.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2018, 10:10:02 PM »
  • Atma hat in cs-rm index "ṃ" auf "ṁ" geändert.
  • Dateinamen sollten gleiches erfahren, und auch die Texte in den Files.
  • Ebenfalls: alle "pali"-Nachspannen in den Ordnern.
  • Auch wird er die Option der Settings des Umwandelns von Buchstaben "teilweise romanisiert" auf "nicht romanisieren« einstellen, was da natürlich heißt, 1500 Wörterbuch-filenamen vielleicht ebenfalls nochmals zu tun...  .  ohh Achtung

    Komplex, wenn man's komplex machen möchte... das ist noch Arbeit und Gelegenheit (gut PTS-dic. dazwischen, auch so eine Sañña-Abgleichsherausforderung, mit massig anderen Sprachen und Zeichen...). Wenn man denkt wie die Herrschaften noch vor 100 Jahren das gemeistert haben. Was für eine (De-)Generation nun schon erreicht. "Alles ist ein", mit 10.000+ google-programierern, die all die Arbeit für die anderen tun: free!  :)

    Die Doku von all den Dingen wird auch noch gute Arbeit.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2018, 10:58:21 PM »
Configuration Setting: fnencode + Configuration Setting: deaccent + 5 Pali-aufwartungen + ati-alt + Wörterbuchautoren + 100 IT-Überraschungen + Wetter/Körper + 2 Jahre alt: Battery u. kl. Tablet... + keinerlei Bildung in sprachen incl. IT + Riesen "Vogel" ... + :-\ = total Verrückt

so und nun weiter, da wo gerade, und nach 30x nochmal machen wird's passen, so neben sañña, nicht auch noch saṅkhāra nicht sicher ist, neben den anderen Aggregaten involviert.

... oder mal wieder eine Nacht darüberschlafen... und auf Hilfsmaschinen und Wissenschaft(ler) hoffen. Aber etwas schlafen ist gut. Nur nicht zu lange (sati verfällt dann vollkommen und man hat alles vergessen und wundert sich nur warum)  :)

theoretisch hat ati.eu schon etwa 500.000 - 1Mio Seiten in den nächsten Monaten... und spider-, suchmaschinen off, damit etwas Wald und Wildnis überbleibt.



kamma-vipaka? das paßt gut im Anschluß:

"einfach nur Gänsehaut"



kataññū + saṁvega + pāsāda = Ver-rückt
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2019, 06:31:42 PM »
Atma could now find a way, having now the possibility to use a laptop, to rename the files. By Commander with the "ren {file} {file new} & ren ...

Here the list of the renaming: renaming_files.

Only the main directory index, is up to date. The sub-directories have to be rebuild.

Atma thought it is good to make a flat structure for the source-files, only divided in Mula, Atthak., Tika and Anya and the other structure similar like for Khmer Tipitaka started, with the "include" tags.

If a trick of how to bring the file-name into the text of each page is known, that would make the modification into the ati-standard easier and faster, with 2698 files per script (4 at this time).
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2019, 03:25:08 PM »
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Atma thought it is good to make a flat structure for the source-files, only divided in Mula, Atthak., Tika and Anya and the other structure similar like for Khmer Tipitaka started, with the "include" tags.

If a trick of how to bring the file-name into the text of each page is known, that would make the modification into the ati-standard easier and faster, with 2698 files per script (4 at this time).

Not sure exactly what is required. Bring which file name into which text?

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2019, 04:11:16 PM »
The name of each file in it's content as part of the text, Nyom. File XY may get it filename as text content at the fist line.

With notepat++"s replacements this can then be used to render certain links and anchors now not existing in the files.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2019, 05:20:09 PM »
Bisher getane Replacements, Schritt fuer Schritt (1 Kommando dauert etwa eine Stunde), spaeter dann in eine ati-Seite fuer folgende Schriften und gleichen Standard:

Code: [Select]
<p rend=[^\w]centre[^\w]>(.*?)<\/p>	<div centeralign>$1</div>

<p rend=[^\w]bodytext[^\w] n=[^\w]([^<>]*?)[^\w]><hi rend=[^\w]paranum[^\w]>([^<>]*?)<\/hi><hi rend=[^\w]dot[^\w]>\.<\/hi>([^\n]*?)<\/p>[\s]* <span para #para_$1>[$2]</span>$3\n\n

<pb ed=[^\w]([^<>]*?)[^\w] n=[^\w]([^<>]*?)[^\w] \/> <span anchor #$1_$2></span>
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