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2020 May 30 06:51:35
Johann: Those taking on the Uposatha today: may many follow your encouragement when leading after near and those depending on you.

2020 May 29 20:39:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 19:56:20
Johann: What ever sacrificed toward the Sublime Gems, toward liberation, such is condition for no more flowing back into the world. Mudita

2020 May 29 08:40:16
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:34:50
Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

2020 May 29 08:33:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:27:03
Johann: If one would know or remembering the suffering behind pleasing form, sound, smell, taste, touch, one certain would no more desire after it. But because lof lack of remembering and proper attention, beings go after it, take birth, age, get sick, seperated, die, again and again, keeping the flame of k

2020 May 29 08:15:29
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:15:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 07:42:53
Johann: If ones sacrifices, generosity, isn't protected by a good closed tank, less fruits can be expected. And what is the tank made of? Saddha, Pasada, metta, Sila, intention for own and others independency.

2020 May 29 06:36:24
Johann: A blessed Siladay all who are doing it today

2020 May 28 19:24:28
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 28 18:32:00
Moritz: Upgrade to SMF 2.0.17 has been completed. Everything running smooth for everybody?

2020 May 23 06:43:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 22 21:09:34
Johann: May all still continue to spend a blessed New moon Uposatha till break on of a new day (of course good to continue without break). Mudita

2020 May 21 20:16:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 21 19:30:50
Johann: Nothing more a blessing as to do not cling to a specific Nikaya, since one can easy take the opportunity of doing theUposatha often two days a new. May all always make the best of given possibilities.

2020 May 20 21:19:41
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 20 20:44:31
Cheav Villa: May Bhante get well soon.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 20 20:43:13
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 14:55:14
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 12:17:04
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 21:21:28
Johann: Nyom Sophorn

2020 May 17 07:36:11
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 17 07:14:16
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 06:01:03
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 May 16 20:42:01
Johann: Bhante

2020 May 15 20:13:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 15 19:17:25
Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

2020 May 14 09:09:08
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 14 06:17:12
Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 12 19:10:56
Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

2020 May 10 15:27:11
Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

2020 May 10 15:26:00
Johann: "stand", taking, holding a stand makes it possible more understandable and fits better to it.

2020 May 10 15:24:35
Johann: Welcome Depabasadhamma, Atma will open a topic on it.

2020 May 10 15:04:51
Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

2020 May 09 21:15:38
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:48:57
Johann: Apsara in Pali: accharā, translation actually "A Whoo!"

2020 May 09 20:45:38
Johann: "...“Then take joy, Nanda. Take joy! I am your guarantor for getting 500 dove-footed nymphs.”..."

2020 May 09 20:45:17
Johann: "“What do you think, Nanda? Which is lovelier, better looking, more charming: the Sakyan girl, the envy of the countryside, or these 500 dove-footed nymphs?”..."

2020 May 09 20:43:26
Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

2020 May 09 19:24:05
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 09 19:08:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 19:00:58
Johann: When not working he is already used to where his beige light clean cloth, morning, noon, evening and already good organized.

2020 May 09 18:52:05
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 07 15:18:07
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 10:33:24
Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

2020 May 07 10:21:10
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 07 10:19:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 07 06:02:32
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 05:46:38
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
Johann: followed by another overload by huawei-search engines... fixed

2020 May 04 20:31:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

2020 May 03 21:13:46
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 20:32:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 03 12:53:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 May 03 12:07:17
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 26 20:23:57
Cheav Villa: and Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:30
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:25
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 08:18:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 07:18:02
Johann: Ādīnava , អដីនវ, As one of ten perceptions: AN 10.60

2020 Apr 26 07:09:32
Johann: May Dukkha be visible for all, so to stay on the path  that leads beyond and liberation.

2020 Apr 25 16:57:34
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 25 15:54:00
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 23 18:41:59
Johann: Sadhu for care to report and assist

2020 Apr 23 18:39:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana now not get notification.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 23 15:04:07
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 23 13:45:57
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 22 11:17:56
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Apr 22 06:38:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 Apr 22 05:45:37
Khemakumara: karuṇā, corona? which one prefers?   may it a fruit- and pathful Uposatha!

2020 Apr 21 19:53:51
Johann: If Nyom likes to use Atmas tablet and Sim, just pick it up at any time.

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[ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« on: February 16, 2019, 09:04:10 PM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [ATI.eu] various errors , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Again full... it might have to do with the big amount of edits, possible storing all changes.

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sangham.net   5596.05 MB   7000 MB   7001 MB   5596.05 MB 7000 MB
zugangzureinsicht.org   687.72 MB   800 MB   801 MB   687.72 MB 800 MB
accesstoinsight.eu   12198.93 MB   12200 MB   12201 MB

Now reduced to 90 days from 366 store might possible help for now. Wondered why a possible 1,5 GB volume needs 12 GB. Lets see.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2019, 06:23:02 PM by Johann »
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2019, 07:54:07 AM »
Reducing the time as made possible does not help. Atma asked also in DW-forum . Does Nyom Moritz have a not to much of his time using idea?
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2019, 10:46:20 AM »
It seems as if found the reason: Older Versiins

With every change the whole page is stored. Given 6300 pages+ and hundreds of changes each, explains why 1GB content grows fast to 12 GB.

The question is now how to solve it, given that there would be possible hundred-thousands of files manual to delete. Build up totally anew and delete them in attic all?

In the case it works that way and gives no errors, how to handle it in the future not to happen or give settings like "the oldest and the last month" of old versions.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2019, 05:25:08 PM »
A "cronjob", like found in giving into by Mr. Michael would be a solution , possible, but Atma fears to have to less knowledge to do not damage things by maintenance .

A programmer could possible add not to delete the oldest as well.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2019, 06:02:28 PM »
Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2019, 06:33:32 PM »
Vandami Bhante _/\_

Sorry, I was very busy lately. But it looks like the reason was found. Good to know what is happening to all this disk space and how to keep more of it available for use.
I am now making a backup of ATI.eu and will try to make a script for the cleanup cronjob later in the evening.

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Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.

I have already completed the backup with the Greensta backup function and am downloading it now. So the current state of the Wiki should be safe.

Deleting attic files with a cronjob script directly on the server later should run fast.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2019, 06:42:21 PM »
Sadhu!
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2019, 06:37:31 AM »
Cleanup cronjob is now running every hour.
It is set up to delete nothing which is newer than 30 days, and also to always keep at least the first three and the last three versions.
At the moment only cleaning up in "data/attic", but there are other places like "data/media_attic" (not much there at the moment), the cache (some gigabytes) and maybe more. Just not quite sure yet about how everything else works, not wanting to delete too much. So there is still room for improvement.
Disk space usage for accesstoinsight.eu is now shown as 8.02 Gigabyte. Not sure how much it was before.

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*  Now leaving for tonight. May all the deleted files find a fortunate rebirth, if not release into nibbana. ^-^
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 07:04:35 AM »
Sadhu. Sounds great.

It was at 11.2GB and is still high because made a lot of edits this days. Once general edits are done, it will be down to 2 or 4 GB.

In reagard of media, Atma tries o ask.

-> Attic-media Daten und cache gleich behandelbar wie für pages?

Possible good if making a page maintenance so that adjustments could be easier made by others later and storage is understood.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2019, 07:26:36 AM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2019, 06:28:03 PM »
Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2019, 06:42:22 PM »
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2019, 07:27:36 PM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
Oops. The reason was that I had assumed without checking that files would be sorted by filename when reading directories in PHP. So the first and last 3 of a randomized list of revisions were kept for each file.

Now that is fixed. If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.

A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance

Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.

Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2019, 08:01:40 PM »
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If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.
My person does not think it is necessary to restore, still huge general modifications. How ever, if there is a backup available for some times, in cases, that's sure fine.
A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance
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...Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
Sadhu!
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2019, 11:11:33 AM »
Maybe a function that deletes older Versions made with in a timeframe of say 24h, or 48h as well, would be good, since the versions-producing replacment sessions are surely nevertheless able to fill the webspace within one or to days again.
It then might even not require to delete all older after the busy times at the beginning.
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