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2020 Jun 06 20:23:49
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jun 06 20:08:46
Johann: It's usual that female more often tend to the father, while male often tend more toward the mother, Nyom. How ever, blessed and living with Brahma, children who honor their parants.

2020 Jun 06 11:18:36
Cheav Villa: In fact, I kana love my Father then Mother And it was a gift I kana received from him, always with a smile Matta and sharing.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jun 06 11:08:38
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jun 06 11:03:01
Johann: A topic good to use: Fathers goodness reminding day - Vaters Güte Erinnerungstag

2020 Jun 06 11:00:54
Johann: Atma thinks it's always the first sunday in June with is used to remind people at large to reflect on the goodness of ones father(s) and to use the day for honor and veneration. May all take this opputunity well and if still alive, of which is not for sure, still possible to personal approach, such is a blessing and not good if not used. Mudita

2020 Jun 05 10:11:59
Johann: Good Sudhammacari

2020 Jun 05 08:25:42
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jun 05 07:22:29
Johann: A blessed Uposatha all today, and may there all ways to make peace with all being, nature, life around in the world.

2020 Jun 01 10:53:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 31 18:59:38
Cheav Villa: Ligthning and Thunder…

2020 May 31 18:52:13
Cheav Villa: The Rain is falling down in PhnomPenh :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 30 07:05:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 30 06:51:35
Johann: Those taking on the Uposatha today: may many follow your encouragement when leading after near and those depending on you.

2020 May 29 20:39:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 19:56:20
Johann: What ever sacrificed toward the Sublime Gems, toward liberation, such is condition for no more flowing back into the world. Mudita

2020 May 29 08:40:16
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:34:50
Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

2020 May 29 08:33:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:27:03
Johann: If one would know or remembering the suffering behind pleasing form, sound, smell, taste, touch, one certain would no more desire after it. But because lof lack of remembering and proper attention, beings go after it, take birth, age, get sick, seperated, die, again and again, keeping the flame of k

2020 May 29 08:15:29
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 08:15:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 29 07:42:53
Johann: If ones sacrifices, generosity, isn't protected by a good closed tank, less fruits can be expected. And what is the tank made of? Saddha, Pasada, metta, Sila, intention for own and others independency.

2020 May 29 06:36:24
Johann: A blessed Siladay all who are doing it today

2020 May 28 19:24:28
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 28 18:32:00
Moritz: Upgrade to SMF 2.0.17 has been completed. Everything running smooth for everybody?

2020 May 23 06:43:43
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 22 21:09:34
Johann: May all still continue to spend a blessed New moon Uposatha till break on of a new day (of course good to continue without break). Mudita

2020 May 21 20:16:55
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 21 19:30:50
Johann: Nothing more a blessing as to do not cling to a specific Nikaya, since one can easy take the opportunity of doing theUposatha often two days a new. May all always make the best of given possibilities.

2020 May 20 21:19:41
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 20 20:44:31
Cheav Villa: May Bhante get well soon.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 20 20:43:13
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 14:55:14
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 18 12:17:04
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 21:21:28
Johann: Nyom Sophorn

2020 May 17 07:36:11
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 17 07:14:16
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 06:01:03
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 May 16 20:42:01
Johann: Bhante

2020 May 15 20:13:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 15 19:17:25
Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

2020 May 14 09:09:08
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 14 06:17:12
Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 12 19:10:56
Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

2020 May 10 15:27:11
Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

2020 May 10 15:26:00
Johann: "stand", taking, holding a stand makes it possible more understandable and fits better to it.

2020 May 10 15:24:35
Johann: Welcome Depabasadhamma, Atma will open a topic on it.

2020 May 10 15:04:51
Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

2020 May 09 21:15:38
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:48:57
Johann: Apsara in Pali: accharā, translation actually "A Whoo!"

2020 May 09 20:45:38
Johann: "...“Then take joy, Nanda. Take joy! I am your guarantor for getting 500 dove-footed nymphs.”..."

2020 May 09 20:45:17
Johann: "“What do you think, Nanda? Which is lovelier, better looking, more charming: the Sakyan girl, the envy of the countryside, or these 500 dove-footed nymphs?”..."

2020 May 09 20:43:26
Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

2020 May 09 19:24:05
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 09 19:08:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 19:00:58
Johann: When not working he is already used to where his beige light clean cloth, morning, noon, evening and already good organized.

2020 May 09 18:52:05
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 07 15:18:07
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 10:33:24
Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

2020 May 07 10:21:10
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 07 10:19:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 07 06:02:32
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 05:46:38
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
Johann: followed by another overload by huawei-search engines... fixed

2020 May 04 20:31:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

2020 May 03 21:13:46
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 20:32:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 03 12:53:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 May 03 12:07:17
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 26 20:23:57
Cheav Villa: and Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:30
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in សង្គហសិវៈបានំ Saŋgha seva pānaṁ , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
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from Upasaka Chrek B :

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Kana tvay bongkum Preah Ang,
attached is the file of my father who took time to write down the meaning in thought of the previous namegiving
sanghak seveak panang
kana opologizes for the long wait.

May Bhante read through it and share thoughts on it. My father as my whole family sends greetings to Bhante and wishing well.

 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_


ខ្ញុំ ព្រះករុណា ព្រមទាំងក្រុមគ្រួសារ សូមនមស្ការពីចម្ងាយដោយក្តីនឹករឭក !

សូមព្រះអង្គមានព្រះសុខភាពល្អមាំមួន ដើម្បីបំពេញតបៈធម៌ក្នុងព្រះពុទ្ធសាសនា!
ពីគ្រួសារ បានទាំងមូល
សូមក្រាបថ្វាយបង្គំលា !

សង្គហសិវៈបានំ

សង្គហៈ បា.សង្គហៈ,សំ. សំគ្រហ=សេចក្តីសង្រ្គោះ( មាន៤យ៉ាងគឺៈ
១)- ការឱ្យជាទេយ្យវត្ថុ,
២)- ការពោលវាចាគួរឱ្យចង់ឮចង់ស្តាប់, (ទេសនា,ប្រាប់,ប្រដៅ )។
៣)- ការប្រព្រឹត្តជាប្រយោជន៍ដល់គ្នានិងគ្នា,
៤)- ការតាំងខ្លួនស្មើៗ ។

សិវៈ បា.សិវៈ,សំគិវ= ត្រជាក់ត្រជុំ, ដែលជាសុខ,សុខសប្បាយ,សុខសម្រាន្ត,
បរមសុខ,ក្សេម ,ក្សេមក្សាន្ត,មានស្រីសួស្តី,ដែលរុងរឿង,ដែលថ្កើងថ្កាន ។

សង្គហសិវៈ= ការសង្រ្គោះប្រកបដោយត្រជាក់ត្រជុំ, -ក្សេមក្សាន្ត, -ស្រីសួស្តី ។ល។
បានកិរិយាសព្ទ សម្រេច, សម្រេចប្រយោជន៍, ដល់ព្រម, សមប្រកប, កប : បានទ្រព្យ, បានកូន, បានស្រូវច្រើន ។

បានការ កើតការ, សម្រេចការ ។ បានចិត្ត ឡើងទឹកចិត្ត នាំឲ្យអង់អាចព្រហើនដោយស្គាល់ចិត្ត ។ បានដៃ  ស៊ប់ឬលុះក្នុងកណ្ដាប់ដៃ ។ ល ។

កិរិយានុគ្រោះពាក្យជាជំនួយកិរិយាសព្ទជាអតីតកាលសម្រាប់និយាយផ្សំជាខាងដើមនៃកិរិយាសព្ទដើម្បីឲ្យច្បាស់លាស់ថា រួចហើយ ដូចជា បានឃើញ,
 បានដឹង, បានឮ, បានឲ្យ ជាដើម ។

កិរិយាវិសេសន៍ ដែលល្អ, ល្អជា; ច្រើន, បានច្រើនចិត្តបាន គឺចិត្តជា, ចិត្តល្អ, ចេះឈឺឆ្អាលគេ : វាល្ងង់ដែរទេ ប៉ុន្តែចិត្តបានណាស់ ។
 ដេកបាន គឺដេកលក់ស្រួល, ដេកស្កប់ ។ ស៊ីបាន  គឺស៊ីចូល, ស៊ីឆ្ងាញ់, ស៊ីឆ្អែត ស្កប់ស្កល់ ។ ល ។

គុណសព្ទ ដែលល្អ, ល្អជា; ច្រើន, បានច្រើនចិត្តបាន គឺចិត្តជា, ចិត្តល្អ, ចេះឈឺឆ្អាលគេ : វាល្ងង់ដែរទេ ប៉ុន្តែចិត្តបានណាស់ ។ ដេកបាន គឺដេកលក់ស្រួល, ដេកស្កប់ ។ ស៊ីបាន  គឺស៊ីចូល, ស៊ីឆ្ងាញ់, ស៊ីឆ្អែត ស្កប់ស្កល់ ។ ល ។

នាមសព្ទ ( ម. ព. ទឹកបាន និង អដ្ឋបាន ) ។

គ្រួសារ បានទាំងមូល
               សូមថ្វាយបង្គំលា !

Sadhu, Nyom Sophorn

សូម ព្រះអង្គ Indaññāno បន្ថែមចំណេះដឹងនិងអត្ថន័យ តាមបាឡិ តាមធម៌ សម្រាប់ការបំពេញ។
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បាន, pāna, as it seems to be missing, does it mean "drinking", and how to understand this here?

បាន, pāna, so es untergekommen erscheint, bedeutet es (nicht) "drinken", und wie wäre die Bedeutung davon hier zu verstehen?

(Immer noch die Bedeutung als "Helfen, ohne zu ertränken" erklärt in Erinnerung)
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Nachdem die Erklärungen für sangahak und seveak wahrscheinlich ziemlich klar sind, geht kana nur mehr auf panang ein.
Sinngemäß hier die Übersetzung aus der gesprochenen Erklärung des Vaters: Als er den Segen und den Namen ersann, meinte er, all die gute Arbeit, die im Sinne für die Gemeinschaft und wahrlich treu der guten Gesinnung dienen soll, soll den Menschen wie ein klares Wasser sein, dass sie trinken (und sie so nähren) bzw. bekommen, materiell und sinnbildlich. Insofern sollte បាន sowohl trinken und bekommen sein.
Kana weiss zwar nicht genau, aber im Sanskrit bedeutet Wasser "ap/apas" (Pl.), während Wasser in der Hindi und im Nepalesischen "pani" bedeutet.
Kana hofft, die Erklärung ist hilfreich. Ansonsten kann kana eine Audioaufnahme machen, wenn erwünscht.


As kana thinkw that the meanings of sangahak and seveak are more or less clear, kana responds to panang in the following. Analogous from the translation of the oral explanation of father: When he was devising of the name, he meant that all the good work that was going to take place should not only benefitting the community and be of good spirits and rightful, but also be like water to the people to nurture or water to become - in literal and symbolic sense. Insofar បាន stands for to drink and to get.
However, kana doesn't know the exact word in Sanskrit, but thinks it is "ap/apas (Pl.)", whereas in Hindi and Nepali it is "pani".
Kana hopes the explanation is helpful. Otherwise kana can record an audio if necessary.


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saṅghaṃ sāvakā bhaṇanta, "the speech/speaking toward/for the Savaka Sangha/ or Savakas of the Sangha", if right translated.

That's a deep and thoughtful investigation, or maybe insight, Nyom Cheav Villa , althought just a "wordplay". What ever of the four kinds of help is connected with the knowledge of escape and done based on the 4 kind of help, such is the appearance of Sangha-Vathu in this world, that which is capable to form and maintain the Noble Sangha.

And what are the four basements of "a" community, Sangha, saṅgha-vatthu? Sangaha Sutta: The Bonds of Fellowship

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Dānaṃ, peyyavajjaṃ, atthacariyā, samānattatā.

There are no accidents...
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សង្គាហសេវបានំ=សង្គហោ​ សេវបានោ​ ឥវ

សង្គហ​ =សង្គហវត្ថុ៤
សវ​=ត្រជាក់
បានំ=ទឹក
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Sadhu for sharing and Nyoms ideas on a deeper level have not been wrong. What value have words if able to touch the Dhammadhatu?

* Johann well facebook, google... helps... please follow the Bhikkhus and Bhikkunis leading there, for gains of forms and knowledge. Neither can nor would my person be able to give much into such. It's impossible teaching dhamma, hearing, gaining dhamma dwelling in house, in the world. That is the kind of help that makes beings drowning in the floods of Samsara, taking form and ideas as real and don't fear to o wrong for it. Many think they could smartly use Mara for a good, but underestimate Mara and his smartness by far. And it's burdensome if trying to connect two different ways, directions. One toward dependency and one toward independency.

It has a deep meaning this សង្គហសិវៈបានំ, truly. And is good taught in the Balasutta .
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* Johann : Not anything wrong at all, but steady the opposite, by Nyom. Words are not said to bind but to never feel bound to what is insecure, for knowing ones freedom and they are given without deal, demand. So never worry about others at first place but uproot fears and other defilements. Only then there can be សង្គហសិវៈបានំ and seldom till never in providing what others desire.
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តើ​សង្គហវត្ថុ​៤ មាន÷
១)- ការឱ្យជាទេយ្យវត្ថុ,
២)- ការពោលវាចាគួរឱ្យចង់ឮចង់ស្តាប់, (ទេសនា,ប្រាប់,ប្រដៅ )។
៣)- ការប្រព្រឹត្តជាប្រយោជន៍ដល់គ្នានិងគ្នា,
៤)- ការតាំងខ្លួនស្មើៗ ។

បានប្រៀបដូចនឹងទឹកត្រជាក់ដោយសារហេតុដូចម្តេចខ្លះ?
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This deep meaning is found in the Balasutta, also dedicated to Bhante, that help is only the right brought when dwelling right accouding to ones state, since beings attached to form, would grasp the worng when teaching and drawn in the water, or if thinking on a mother actually misguiding her child, out of fear that the child does not like things, or if putting to much medicin that the patient gets addicted to the medicine and does no more focus on getting healed:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ ចុះ​សង្គហពលៈ តើដូចម្តេច។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ សង្គហវត្ថុ​នេះ​មាន ៤ ​យ៉ាង គឺ​ការឲ្យទាន ១​ ការពោលពាក្យ​ជាទីស្រលាញ់ ១ ការប្រព្រឹត្តិអំពើ​ឲ្យជាប្រយោជន៍​ ១ ភាពជា​អ្នកតាំង​ខ្លួន​សើ្ម ១​ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បណ្តាទាន​ទាំងឡាយ ទានដែល​ប្រសើរបំផុតនុ៎ះ គឺ​ធម្មទាន ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បណ្តាការ​ពោលពាក្យ​ជាទីស្រឡាញ់​ទាំងឡាយ ការ​ពោល​ពាក្យ​ជាទីស្រឡាញ់​ដ៏ប្រសើរ​បំផុតនុ៎ះ គឺ​ធម្មកថិកសំដែងធម៌​រឿយ ៗ ដល់អ្នក​ត្រូវ​ការ​ស្តាប់ អ្នកផ្ទៀង​ត្រចៀកស្តាប់ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បណ្តាការ​ប្រព្រឹត្តិអំពើ​ឲ្យជា​ប្រយោជន៍​ទាំងឡាយ ការប្រព្រឹត្តិ​អំពើឲ្យជា​ប្រយោជន៍​ដ៏ប្រសើរនុ៎ះ គឺបុគ្គល​អ្នកញុំាង​ជន​មិនមាន​សទ្ធា ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុង​សទ្ធាសម្បទា ញុំាងជន​ទ្រុស្តសីល ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុងសីលសម្បទា ញុំាងជន​អ្នកមាន​សេចក្តី​កំណាញ់ ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុងចាគសម្បទា ញុំាងជន​អ្នក​មិនមាន​បញ្ញា ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុងបញ្ញាសម្បទា ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំង​ឡាយ បណ្តាភាព​ជាអ្នកតាំង​ខ្លួនសើ្មទាំងឡាយ ភាពជាអ្នក​តាំងខ្លួនសើ្ម​ដ៏ប្រសើរនុ៎ះ គឺ​សោតាបន្នបុគ្គល មានខ្លួនសើ្ម​នឹងសោតាបន្នបុគ្គល សកទាគាមិបុគ្គល មានខ្លួន​សើ្មនឹង​សកទាគាមិ​បុគ្គល អនាគាមិ​បុគ្គល មានខ្លួនសើ្មនឹង​អនាគាមិបុគ្គល អរហន្ត មានខ្លួន​ស្មើនឹង​អរហន្ត ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ នេះហៅថា សង្គហពលៈ។

It's not easy to leave the Bodhisattarame and come to the Dhamma-Vinayaarame, and my person hopes that all of his parents and teacher, having given certain foundations can receive the gift they gave added with what leads really to liberation and is the deep meaning of សង្គហសិវៈបានំ, helping but only within the right means and only where possible, based on the Buddhas teachings and ways and not the defiled thought of a Bodhisatta who is incapable for real and lasting help.
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Dānaṃ (1. Sanghavatthu): ១)- ការឱ្យជាទេយ្យវត្ថុ: បណ្តាទាន​ទាំងឡាយ ទានដែល​ប្រសើរបំផុតនុ៎ះ គឺ​ធម្មទាន

As it is already known, what ever giving of material things, those things are based on the suffering of many and if even taking to give, it's not of help at all, for nobody. But if one is able to give the gift leading to the deathless or assisting with it, such is indeed a help that can be of long even lasting peace.

In the Sangarava Sutta (សង្គារវសូត្រ ), Ananda tried to convince a Brahman in regard of walking the path at it's full is not selfish but actually excels what ever engagement in worldly manner.
The Buddha seeing that he stucks, turned the talk into "gain" direction, explaining that one able of the miracle of teaching is the most exalted and this the Brahman could understand.

Aside of the highest giving, and that again always first toward the virtuous, one does not fail when striktly follow the5 proper times of giving. All aside this, increase problems, attachments and bonds to the world, as already talked here .

People everywhere teaching helping, giving, eldom teaching what the Buddha really taught but use it like the Brahman and actually every being, to justify ones livelihood with it at least, reasons why not leaving home and walk the path if possible (e.g. 8, 10, all Silas). Thats also a protection that ones giving never falls against ones way for liberation and is based on the right means.
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peyyavajjaṃ (2. Sangha-vatthu): ការពោលវាចាគួរឱ្យចង់ឮចង់ស្តាប់: "បណ្តាការ​ពោលពាក្យ​ជាទីស្រឡាញ់​ទាំងឡាយ ការ​ពោល​ពាក្យ​ជាទីស្រឡាញ់​ដ៏ប្រសើរ​បំផុតនុ៎ះ គឺ​ធម្មកថិកសំដែងធម៌​រឿយ ៗ ដល់អ្នក​ត្រូវ​ការ​ស្តាប់ អ្នកផ្ទៀង​ត្រចៀកស្តាប់"

Teaching the Dhamma, peyya, (lit: able to swallow) does not mean that it is always pleasing, as one gets best explaineg in the Sutta Abhaya Sutta , MN 58, where enemies tried to use the Buddhas ways of speaking against him, at the end he spoke:

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

[1] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be unfactual, untrue, unbeneficial (or: not connected with the goal), unendearing & disagreeable to others, he does not say them.

[2] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, unbeneficial, unendearing & disagreeable to others, he does not say them.

[3] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, beneficial, but unendearing & disagreeable to others, he has a sense of the proper time for saying them.

[4] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be unfactual, untrue, unbeneficial, but endearing & agreeable to others, he does not say them.

[5] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, unbeneficial, but endearing & agreeable to others, he does not say them.

[6] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, beneficial, and endearing & agreeable to others, he has a sense of the proper time for saying them. Why is that? Because the Tathagata has sympathy for living beings."

Here gain, the mainstream teaches not like that and all to often try and win to silent the Dhamma in saying Dhamma must be taught pleasant, must be pleasant for the mass.

Actually either deep "love" toward the teacher or a sublime position of the teacher is needed for the situation: ដល់អ្នក​ត្រូវ​ការ​ស្តាប់ អ្នកផ្ទៀង​ត្រចៀកស្តាប់.

To easy are people caught with impure ways and by giving favors.
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