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Posted by: Johann
« on: November 21, 2019, 12:14:27 PM »

The commentary in the Khmer translation (many incidents, incl fish and flour) seems not to be an old Khmer telling but, as also counted on same reception by Ajahn Brahm, deprives from a later Thai commentary.

A fermented sour salty medicine, how ever, known by elders to be used by monks of old times until now, consists of mentioned allowed forestfruits, sugar and salt. A brown oily substance, after fermentation, easy to keep and store.
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 17, 2019, 05:43:55 PM »

Aramika   *

Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "[km/en] Medicine used by the Nuns of Maha Panna " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "[km/en] Medicine used by the Nuns of Maha Panna " or attached there.
Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 16, 2019, 05:28:43 PM »

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Posted by: Johann
« on: November 16, 2019, 01:59:17 PM »

Sadhu and mudita for giving into twofold អនាមយ anāmaya "non afflicted" , Joy-by-safe-purification in twofold way so that twofold heal is soon to be expected.

Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 16, 2019, 01:41:11 PM »

កូណា ព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

ខ្ញុំកូណានឹងបបួលបងសុភឿន ម្តងទៀត ។

 ខ្ញុំកូណាកំពុងគិត អំពីការប្រាប់ ណែនាំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំំជាមុនរបស់ភិក្ខុនី ។
ត្រូវការបរិស្ថានល្អូ ដូចជានៅវត្តបញ្ញាជាដើម ស្ងួតដើម្បីរក្សា ទុកឱសថ មានដំបូល ជញ្ជាំង កាពារភ្លៀងខ្យល់ ... ជៀសវៀងកើតផ្សិត
និងត្រូវកូរជារៀងរាល់ថ្ងៃ ។


Kan, Brah Ang

I, Kana, will encourage older sister Sopheoun another time.

I, Kana, have currently become an illness that seeks for further hurting (infectious) which I wouldn't like to guide to the Bhikkhunis.
It needs a clean enviroment, like it is at Vatta Panna, modest, ... well done, steady looked after, stired up...


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* Johann : Transl. added
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 16, 2019, 12:27:50 PM »

In the case, Nyom Cheav Villa , Nyom considers to wish to learn the making and caretaking on the medicine the nuns are used to brewer, maybe it's possible to take Nyom Sophorn and Nyom Lay into the boot, spending a time in learning by serving there. As it just came to mind.
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 15, 2019, 10:07:59 PM »

And has a "similar" latin name as the pali loṇasociraka "salted sour gruel"

Limonia acidissima "sour lemon", "The fruit is used to make a fruit juice...Ripe fruit can be used as "achaar- pickle" (mashed with green chilly, sugar and salt only)."

Die unreifen Früchte werden in Indien in der Volksmedizin verwendet. Die adstringierende Wirkung wird beispielsweise gegen Diarrhö und Dysenterie eingesetzt. Blätter, Borke, Wurzeln und Fruchtpülpe werden gegen Schlangenbisse eingesetzt.

The unripe fruits are used in Indian folkmedicine. The astringent efficiency is used against dysentery and diarrhea. Leaves, roots, ...are used against snake bites.

Sanskrit: kavaṭha Pali maybe Kavāṭa? "the panels of the door, the door proper, not the aperture" (pts) Filler, closer, upcloser? But that's all very "speculative".

The similar name in India may indicate that use of it derived from Indian area to Kampuchea.

And use would not go so straight against the habit of not storing "food" as a prepaired, brewed medicine would, fermenting on the tree.

The Khmer translation of "anujānāmi bhikkhave yathāsukhaṁ gilānassa loṇasocirakaṁ agilānassa udakasambhinnaṁ pānaparibhogena paribhuñjitunti" adds in bracks after pāna, drink/beverage "similar mango juice" to possible try to group it.
Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 15, 2019, 09:13:52 PM »

Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Kana just search and see a suprising health benefits of WoodApple or Bel Fruit.

 :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 15, 2019, 05:23:17 PM »

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Posted by: Johann
« on: November 15, 2019, 03:56:20 PM »

As this natural loṇasociraka could maybe of help here, from other place:

Yesterday, having left the cave and inhabitants their ways, Atma reflected: "long do you spend here on one place, longer then ever" then the mighty on mountain Aural came into the ārammaṇa, "saying" : 'come up an leave it behind for a while". Thinking: "Alone makes no sense and selftortue. Also, what is there what isn't here for release avaliable? For lay people a burden when guiding. If the would be a monk asking to go with him: why not", and left the case abound.

This morning, on alms, a Venerable stopped approached, and gave fruit and milk. It was the Ven. who accidently met Atma already year before in same way and visited the Ashram short later, from an Ashram told south Speu. After having done he told that after returning from norther monastery, he would came to visit. Having invited him to stay and use the Ashram, he then asked: "Does Ven. like to go up to the mountain with me?". "it depends on why, when and how...  (intention)" and then each walked on.

The fruit was one Atma mentioned to Nyom Chanroth two days before, discussing the special fermented medicine, as being a natural fermented one (tasting like truffle mixed with sugar) stored in a coconut like hard peel on the tree for long), hardly ever to gain here in this area, not see since 4 years. Having a slight alcoholic taste, Atma is only able to consume when sick.

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Ohh those Devas all around  :)

Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 15, 2019, 12:13:21 PM »

Aramika   *

Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [Ashram] Thmo Duk (Schiffsfelsen), Aural, Cambodia, អាស្រម ថ្មទូក ស្រុកឪរ៉ាល់ , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
The new topic (or post/s) here are originaly from [Ashram] Thmo Duk (Schiffsfelsen), Aural, Cambodia, អាស្រម ថ្មទូក ស្រុកឪរ៉ាល់ . For eventual additionally information: please visit also the Topic of origin. Anumodana!

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កូណា ព្រះអង្គ :) _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

គឺផ្លែខ្វិតទុំ ។

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Kana, Brah Ang

that is the fruit Khwit, ripe.
Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 13, 2019, 03:18:08 PM »

Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Posted by: Johann
« on: November 13, 2019, 03:01:49 PM »

Sadhu, Sadhu & mudita

and may Nyom take the possibility for her self in all cases to spend time in association and learn, maybe taking Nyom Sophoeun or other devoted with her.

Maybe even Bhante Indaññāno and Bhante Khemakumara could join.

(Personally, having had received their generouse hospitality some days and also be served this tonic, but first not taken because very sensible and not able to take on something with even slight alcoholic flavor, took some having fallen sick with stomach flu another day, walked on better the next day, but had then seldom stronger diarrhea 30km north later.)

Nyom Chanroth reported at the last comming together, that he used to make medicine similar, while a monk. He left home as child with a wandering Dhutong-monk and wandered with him through the lands many years. He told to use whole Samau and Gaduat-fruits (the mentioned in the Tipitaka) and some other Atma didn't understood, putted them together with sugar, palmsugar salt into a jar and let it works out alone. After a while it would be a thick mass like tnaum-sugar (palmsugar) with dark color and was used to be eaten after meal and wind-disease. A lot of matches, reasonableness here as well.

* Johann : great to see that they had possible stopped the idea to cover the wall ( Sadhu) with large nature stone blocks btw. and Sadhu for hinting, and observing nature.
Posted by: Cheav Villa
« on: November 13, 2019, 02:29:52 PM »

Prah Karuna Prah Ang  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

The Venerable ladies of Maha Panna Foundation would allow and tell the receipt and integredient after Kana or someone take time to learn or to see how she kept it or take good care of medecine first. Avoid of misunderstood of use.

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Posted by: Johann
« on: November 13, 2019, 02:13:31 PM »

Sadhu, Sadhu (Atma will translate)

Could Nyom Cheav Villa ask the Ven. Ladies of Maha Panna Foundation  about the reception and ingredients of the medicine they use to do in large amout and how they do?