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Like when enter or join, a shrine, another's sphere, or back: good for greating, bye, veneration, short talks, quick help. Some infos on regards .


2023 Sep 29 07:35:30
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:23:47
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:03:11
Johann: A blessed full moon Uposatha and begin of the ancestor weeks by lived metta and virtue: lived gratitude toward all being, toward one self.

2023 Sep 22 22:07:43
Johann: If no rush turn toward reducing sensuality and make Silas the top of priority, it's to fear that an Atomic conflic will be chosen soon, in the battle of control of the "drugs".

2023 Sep 22 14:59:39
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 22 06:35:51
Johann: A blessed Uposatha Observance on this Sila-day, by conducting similar the Arahats.

2023 Sep 16 19:29:27
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 16 19:29:13
blazer: Hello everyone! I've just come back home. I had a long trip and no sleep for more than 30 hours, but currently feel quite good. I've had a good experience, i'm happy. I've found out much inspiration and many ideas about the training and the holy life. I'll recollect and write about them as soon as i've taken some rest. Hope to find you all well and in good health  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 15 05:25:24
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 14 21:09:49
Johann: A blessed rest of New moon Uposatha today (later as no connection before).

2023 Sep 10 01:55:47
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Sep 09 18:52:54
Johann: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 09 18:52:28
Johann: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 08 06:19:20
Johann: A blessed Sila day, by maintaining goodwill toward all, not only by deeds and speech, but with nine factors, incl. a mind full of metta.

2023 Sep 01 10:54:43
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 01 09:21:09
Johann:  “This verse was stated by earlier worthy ones, fully self-awakened:    Freedom from disease: the foremost good fortune. Unbinding: the foremost ease. The eightfold: the foremost of paths going to the Deathless, Secure.

2023 Sep 01 09:19:23
Johann: 'Ārogyaparamā lābhā nibbānaṃ paramaṃ sukhaṃ, Aṭṭhaṅgiko ca maggānaṃ khemaṃ amatagāmina'nti.   អារោគ្យបរមា លាភា និព្ពានំ បរមំ សុខំ អដ្ថងិកោ ច មគ្គានំ ខេមំ អមតគាមិន នតិ។  លាភទាំងឡាយ មានការមិនមានរោគ ដ៏ប្រសើរបំផុត ព្រះនិព្វាន ជាសុខដ៏ឧត្តម មគ្គប្រកបដោយអង្គ៨ ដ៏ក្សេមក្សាន្តជាងមគ្គទាំងឡាយ សម្រាប់ដំណើរ ទៅកាន់​ព្រះនិព្វាន ឈ្មោះអមតៈ។

2023 Aug 31 06:30:11
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 31 06:08:15
Johann: A blessed Fullmoon Uposatha, following the Arahats conducts.

2023 Aug 30 20:19:25
Johann: Nyom

2023 Aug 30 18:39:38
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 19:56:43
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu and mudita

2023 Aug 24 19:45:08
No Name: កូណា បាននាំគ្រួសាររក្សាសីល8ក្នុងថ្ងៃនេះ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_😌

2023 Aug 24 18:31:04
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 24 18:08:32
Johann: Message in the morning didn't arise... so a later: blessed rest of a good conducted Sila day.

2023 Aug 16 10:26:38
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 16 06:39:11
Johann: A blessed, peaceful, New Moon Uposatha, caused by metta-Citta.

2023 Aug 09 10:02:14
No Name: សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 09 06:08:53
Johann: May all spend a blessed Sila day by observing the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Aug 02 19:15:32
Johann: May all Venerables have found a. suitable place for this Vassa, conductive for the sake of the deathless, and may all dwell conflictless, supported by admirable friends.

2023 Aug 01 13:39:35
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Aug 01 07:03:18
Johann: A blesser Asalha-Puja, Dhamma day Full moon Uposatha. May all Venerables have found, find, a perfect place for their victorious Vassa. May all spend a blessend Uposatha and nobody get hurt on the lanes of rushing travels.

2023 Jul 26 18:11:11
Johann: May all spend a blessed rest of Sila-day today.

2023 Jul 24 18:01:06
blazer: For sure it would be! I've found good of having allayed the pain and being able to move

2023 Jul 23 17:40:26
Johann: A finally good news would be declaring of patgs and fruit attainments, with Arahataphalla as peak.

2023 Jul 23 17:39:09
Johann: Finally?  :)

2023 Jul 23 09:44:43
blazer: Thanks Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Finally i have a few good news. Will write about tomorrow

2023 Jul 22 19:41:41
Johann: A good time, and so a good morning, Nyom.

2023 Jul 22 09:12:47
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 20 20:20:43
Johann: Any further open doubts and questions?

2023 Jul 17 21:48:01
Johann: Periodicaly again the urge to do not relay on social medias and to concentrate doing the tasks very bodily on the earth, avoiding the lure of debtless consume and seek to know goodness and just take on what's personal given for good purpose, away from hidden trades and traps. People denying goodness and/or don't know how to pay back and toward whom, simple run crazy and after a while into all kinds of amok.

2023 Jul 17 06:10:00
Johann: A blesed New-moon Uposatha today.

2023 Jul 11 22:05:20
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila-Day today.

2023 Jul 10 23:09:42
blazer: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 10 16:32:58
Johann: Mudita

2023 Jul 10 03:32:09
blazer: I'm going to contact the forest monastery soon

2023 Jul 04 19:13:24
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jul 03 06:27:07
Johann: Likewise those observing the Uposatha today.

2023 Jul 02 05:55:14
Johann: A blessed full-moon Uposatha, by observing the nine-fold Uposath, starting with Metta.

2023 Jul 01 17:27:14
Jieshi Shan: Starlink has just passed over my head

2023 Jun 26 13:25:42
Johann: Nyom

2023 Jun 26 11:33:47
blazer: Good morning  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 26 06:23:22
Johann: And those conducting the observance today: may it be well done.

2023 Jun 25 11:16:30
No Name:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 25 09:03:52
Johann: A blessed Sila day, those conducting it today.

2023 Jun 23 08:50:50
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 21 14:32:05
blazer: It is hard to practice here. I'm in a place where i can get virtually anything in just a few minutes. And ads and distractions are everywhere. And people are so defiled so i have to carefully calibrate social interactions.

2023 Jun 21 13:44:56
Johann: It's not possible to gain Dhamma as long holding stand, home. Once elevating above sensuality, clearance can be gained.

2023 Jun 21 13:20:27
blazer: I'm sorry but i'm not understanding perfectly. How can i ask him for the best further way if he is not reachable directly? And what is meant by "best further way"?  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 21 13:19:05
blazer: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 20 17:42:55
Johann: Btw., if your Noble teacher might be no more in reach directly, once you make an effort toward the Brahmas, devoted to the Gems, you might get the chance to ask him about the best further way (note that an Noble Brahma, of cource, would serve lazy or not serious approaches).

2023 Jun 20 17:16:43
Johann: Some may wonder why the Sublime Buddha heavily rebuked monks when they teached the Dhamma of the Ariya, to those not prepeared yet... Once people have gained this Dhamma in wrong way or at wrong time, without favor toward renouncing and or Samvega, they are hardly ever able to gain it right, mostly closed up the door by their unwise ways and approach.

2023 Jun 18 15:32:24
blazer: Good afternoon  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 18 05:55:13
Johann: Likewise, a blessed Uposatha those who observe it today.

2023 Jun 18 00:45:56
blazer: Good to remember, greediness of results becomes a problem in these situations. Thank you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 17 21:22:34
Johann: See how close he is!

2023 Jun 17 13:04:43
blazer: How can i find such a teacher or an admirable friend right now?

2023 Jun 17 13:00:41
blazer: was not going out since a week because pain, wanted to give a try.

2023 Jun 17 13:00:01
blazer: im very in pain. Went out yesterday evening.

2023 Jun 17 12:51:01
Johann: Nyom, seek to live next a teacher, next admirable friends.

2023 Jun 17 12:27:12
blazer: obviously related to the last post

2023 Jun 17 12:14:49
blazer: I gone out in the evening after a week at home and i'm very hungry, it can be an impedment now and  later. Had to eat yogurt. Should i avoid solid food for good concentration?

2023 Jun 17 12:10:26
blazer: Please may Ven. Johann, if there, answer soon my new post  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 17 12:08:02
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ good news today

2023 Jun 17 06:21:43
Johann: A blessed New-moon Uposatha, based on metta, all who observe it today.

2023 Jun 11 21:47:12
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 11 20:42:00
Johann: A blessed rest of Sila day, by observing metta toward all beings, by thoughts and deeds.

2023 Jun 11 20:00:38
Johann: Nyom

2023 Jun 11 17:02:02
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 11 16:12:49
Johann: There isn't anyone who wouldn't be invited "to come and see" once willing to leave stand, home. For non it wouldn't be of much benefit to give even just a little toward the Gems. Yet less would take on occasion, preferring collecting for a stand, house, when ever access and feeling 'worthy' of it.

2023 Jun 10 20:22:50
Moritz: Best wishes to everyone _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 09 11:29:00
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 08 20:13:52
{removed name}1: Johann,why not invite your wife and children to join the forum?

2023 Jun 08 14:23:34
blazer: Hello  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 08 14:19:07
Moritz: Hello _/\_

2023 Jun 07 16:39:04
blazer: Bhante Johann, very happy to read you  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 07 16:35:51
{removed name}1: Whoever is defiled And devoid of self-control and truth, Yet wears the saffron robe, Is unworthy of the saffron robe.

2023 Jun 07 16:30:42
{removed name}1: Rain in Vienna... Any plans to go back to homecountry?

2023 Jun 07 16:29:17
{removed name}1: Hello Atma how are you doing today? Enjoying your holiday in Cambodia?

2023 Jun 07 16:20:57
{removed name}1: Not by shaven head does a man who is indisciplined and untruthful become a monk

2023 Jun 07 16:17:56
{removed name}1: One is not a monk just because one begs from others. Nor does one become a monk by taking on domestic ways.

2023 Jun 07 16:13:41
{removed name}1: Happy 6th industrial revolution everyone🙏

2023 Jun 07 15:27:16
Johann: Else: Atma can only encourage to move the domain back into khema areas of as well as one self, for there in is no future for this people of grave wrong view and wouldn't like anybody to have burdens with lost fools. One can just leave them up to their fixed destination.

2023 Jun 07 15:14:45
Johann: ញោម "Nyom", ñoma - Ursprung bzw. Bedeutung , maybe of help, Nyom, Nyom.

2023 Jun 05 12:44:17
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_

2023 Jun 03 16:27:58
blazer: Checked time ago, i've seen somewhere translated as a person which is kind of equanimous, or something similar, as far as i can remember. Not finding the webpage right now

2023 Jun 03 15:28:13
Moritz: I think it's related to k'nyom (speaking out the "k" here), which means "I" and is used in normal colloquial language to speak of oneself. So not really sure how this relates to "former relative" etymologically.

2023 Jun 03 15:25:56
Moritz: I think "nyom" means something like "former relative", generally used by monks to address laypeople. Not really sure about the meaning in detail and where it could else be used. :)

2023 Jun 03 15:15:41
blazer: Good day to you Nyom Moritz  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Jun 03 14:57:17
Moritz: Good day, Mr. blazer _/\_

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Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
« on: May 14, 2023, 10:17:24 PM »
Quote from: Talk box talk: 2023 May 14 21:40:43
Johann: Every joy leads to certain release. But it's just right joy that leads toward lasting, right release.

Vilā: ការបានរូចខ្លនពីអន្ទាក់ ជាភាពរីករាយ។ ពួកគេនឹងជាប់អន្ទាក់ដោយ សារឃើញនុយ ដែលចូលចិត្ត

Vilā: ប្រសិនបើឃើញអន្ទាក់ថា ជាអន្ទាក់ហើយចេះដើរ ដោយសុវត្ថិភាព តាមវិធីរបស់ខ្លួន មានអីមិនល្អ?

Johann: To reflect: And what are the joys like snares? Release on joy in Sign is a snare, ...sound is a snare..., smell, taste, bodily touch, release by joy over ideas is a snare, leading to birth, aging, sickness, death and seperation, again and again.

Only when right view is complete till right living, the path with joy at the beginningjoy in the middle, joy at the end arises.
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Re: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2023, 10:23:43 PM »
Quote from: Upasika Vila
សត្វទាំងឡាយមានកម្ម ជារបស់ខ្លន

Beings are heir of their actions (kamma)

With the ending of taking on delight in the five strings, beings are snared outwardly, toward the Brahmas joy. With the ending of taking on even refined objects, the end of new kamma has been reached, the deathlessness, and old, if not yet, will work to it's end in the Pure realms.
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Re: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2023, 10:27:06 PM »
កូណា គ្រាន់តែមើល និងឃើញ អ្នកខ្លាចរកទីពឹង អ្នកខូច ស្លូតសិន
ជាធម្មតា។ សំខាន់នាំគ្នា ធ្វើការងារ ក្នុងប្រយោជន៍ រៀងខ្លួន។
កូណា អត់​មាន​ចំណូលចិត្ត លេងទៀតទេ ឈរមើលសើច...
ព្រះអរិយៈទាំងឡាយ តែងសរសើរការសម្លាប់សេចក្តីក្រោធ ដែលមានឫសជាពិស មានចុងដ៏ផ្អែម ជនសម្លាប់សេចក្តីក្រោធនោះឯង ទើបមិនសោក។🌚
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Re: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2023, 10:30:04 PM »
កូណា មិនចង់ទៅព្រហ្ម តាមវិធីអត់សប្បាយអ៊ីចឹងទេ។
កូណានឹងរកផ្លូវទៅដោយ រីករាយ ប្រសើរជាង  :)
 
សូម្បីតែនៅកន្លែងសង្ឃ ក៏មានអ្នកបួសល្បិចច្រើន ច្រណែនយាយជីពិបាកជាងរស់នៅក្នុងផ្ទះ។ មានអី គួរជ្រះថ្លាទៀត? ឬគួរសង្វេគ ដើម្បីឆាប់ឃើញធម៌? កំសត់ពេកហើយ :D
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ព្រះអរិយៈទាំងឡាយ តែងសរសើរការសម្លាប់សេចក្តីក្រោធ ដែលមានឫសជាពិស មានចុងដ៏ផ្អែម ជនសម្លាប់សេចក្តីក្រោធនោះឯង ទើបមិនសោក។🌚
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Re: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2023, 10:54:06 PM »
កូណា បាន​ឲ្យ​អ្វីដែលគេចង់បានអស់ហើយ។
 ការរស់នៅដើម្បីផ្គាប់ចិត្ត ពិបាករស់ណាស់
កូណា ក៏ចង់រស់ដោយសប្បាយចិត្ត តាមរបៀបខ្លួនដែរ។


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ព្រះអរិយៈទាំងឡាយ តែងសរសើរការសម្លាប់សេចក្តីក្រោធ ដែលមានឫសជាពិស មានចុងដ៏ផ្អែម ជនសម្លាប់សេចក្តីក្រោធនោះឯង ទើបមិនសោក។🌚
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Re: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2023, 05:51:18 AM »
កូណា គ្រាន់តែមើល និងឃើញ អ្នកខ្លាចរកទីពឹង អ្នកខូច ស្លូតសិន
ជាធម្មតា។ សំខាន់នាំគ្នា ធ្វើការងារ ក្នុងប្រយោជន៍ រៀងខ្លួន។
កូណា អត់​មាន​ចំណូលចិត្ត លេងទៀតទេ ឈរមើលសើច...
Just dwelling at the Brahmaviharas/in Jhana is the best, once having made Dhamma his own. No duty to return. And if simply out of compassion.

កូណា មិនចង់ទៅព្រហ្ម តាមវិធីអត់សប្បាយអ៊ីចឹងទេ។
កូណានឹងរកផ្លូវទៅដោយ រីករាយ ប្រសើរជាង  :)

All on the path, and especially those on higher, dwell at the Brahmas (especially in Sunnata) and the Buddha encouraged such. Why? Because dwelling elsewhere isn't pleasing.
 
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សូម្បីតែនៅកន្លែងសង្ឃ ក៏មានអ្នកបួសល្បិចច្រើន ច្រណែនយាយជីពិបាកជាងរស់នៅក្នុងផ្ទះ។ មានអី គួរជ្រះថ្លាទៀត? ឬគួរសង្វេគ ដើម្បីឆាប់ឃើញធម៌? កំសត់ពេកហើយ :D
That's the area outside the Brahma or when abonding the Brahmacariya.

កូណា បាន​ឲ្យ​អ្វីដែលគេចង់បានអស់ហើយ។
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កូណា ក៏ចង់រស់ដោយសប្បាយចិត្ត តាមរបៀបខ្លួនដែរ។


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Bhava, vibhava. That's a wheel Nyom. Why would one at ease, knowing as it arises and decay, knowing that there isn't anybody in charge of the world, run, or stop, having about the wandering through the three worlds, using just given, remain accessable for all who desire for such.

Maybe a talk on Seeds of becoming .

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

“And how is one made pure in three ways by mental action? There is the case where a certain person is not covetous. He does not covet the belongings of others, thinking, 'O, that what belongs to others would be mine!' He bears no ill will and is not corrupt in the resolves of his heart. [He thinks,] 'May these beings be free from animosity, free from oppression, free from trouble, and may they look after themselves with ease!' He has right view and is not warped in the way he sees things: 'There is what is given, what is offered, what is sacrificed. There are fruits & results of good & bad actions. There is this world & the next world. There is mother & father. There are spontaneously reborn beings; there are brahmans & contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the next after having directly known & realized it for themselves.' This is how one is made pure in three ways by mental action.”

AN 10.176

The Brahmas require 'just' to let go, and train to let go, of sensual desires, to leave stand and abound holding on it, on house. Such the Brahmas dwell on given and faultless ground, where ever they resist, penatrating the whole world with thoughts of goodwill, compassion, appreciation, equanimity, no more touch-able and a shadow for those seeking it, like parents doing their task between desirous running around children.

And if not able yet to dwell in the Brahmas, when ever wished, it requires to complet the Satipaṭṭhānā, of which would be hard to do elsewhere than in the holly live, requiring blameless virtue and sense restrain first, being a task of 24h, once at least, and a protection not to appart withamuddled mind.

If both isn't posdible yet, the 6 and five reflection, after periodical merits and Uposatha, help to, at least, come into borderlands. It's not at all wrong to be all the time at Punnakirya vatthu and then to use the opening once arises to change the livelihood at all. If far from the border, openings, even arising, would be out of quick reach.

So what else then desires after sensuality holds one back, makes one stingy or able to fall for wrong view? Gods make others happy, at least of being present and a shadow for others, like parents even if. no more join playing around.

So for now giving anothe Ahara-hant ( Bhante Subhadhamma) leave to try to walk alone... who will then soon return again, if not got lost. The different is that living in the house one is mostly not aware of all desires and bonds and misses to timely free oneself, win over defilements.
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Re: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2023, 10:00:46 AM »
As long tthere is still desire and hope to grasp something to put it under one's control, not seeing the requirment of dependency, developing wrong view, people act aversive when illusion of having control fades.

That's the reason why there is so much destruction in the world "either I can conrol or destroy", this starts within oneself.
Only when holding strong on right view, and with a mind of gratitude the Brahmas, Jhanas, paths, fruits, going forth, can be attained. And once this state is reached, one grows even worthy for gift, being bond to release and in no long becomes one beyond relaying on joy that is faulty, till the point where one even receives gross without any debt anywhere.

While it's more the praise worthy to leave facebook and co, it's total out of reasoning why abonding given for release before having complet the task.

Dwelling alone, if Samadhi hasn't been gained, a rabbit get's either lost in the water of Mara or just does the rabbit task in being cleaver to jump from here to there as long as possible.

Engaging in Dhamma talks or work on it, reading it, maintaining it, is the other duty if not able or willing to dwell alone in the Brahmas.

Common joy, offered by Mara assoon as doubt arises, will last only a short time, gotten trapped again and again.

Joyful services, services, strong kepping precepts and doing all of one's task, this is the base for any lokuttara-joy. Householder and monks like-a-like. No joy if there is no object of devotion, no going on if not happy with oneself and blameless. So cleaning and cleaning again, is most important and ends just at Arahata fruit.
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Re: Every joy leads to certain release, but...!
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