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2020 May 29 08:34:50
Johann: [continue] ...kāma-guṇa (sensual giving) , death, alive, increasing the cemeteries in the world. This is why just giving toward the virtuous, those with metta, bears fruits beyond the common, as it's not for further kāma-guṇa that they would use it for, but as base for lessons, for purificatio

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2020 May 28 18:32:00
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Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

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Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 21:21:28
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2020 May 17 07:36:11
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 17 07:14:16
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 17 06:01:03
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 May 16 20:42:01
Johann: Bhante

2020 May 15 20:13:51
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 15 19:17:25
Johann: A blessed Siladay ending for those who keep(ed) it today.

2020 May 14 09:09:08
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 14 06:17:12
Johann: A bl3ssed Sila-day those observing it today.

2020 May 12 21:00:24
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 12 19:10:56
Johann: May no one ever, even a moment, forget: "Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven, lordship over all worlds:    the fruit of stream-entry    excels them."

2020 May 10 15:27:11
Depabhasadhamma: Thank you Johann

2020 May 10 15:26:00
Johann: "stand", taking, holding a stand makes it possible more understandable and fits better to it.

2020 May 10 15:24:35
Johann: Welcome Depabasadhamma, Atma will open a topic on it.

2020 May 10 15:04:51
Depabhasadhamma: I am in need of assistance. I am writing a paper about the Three Marks of Existence. I understand the three marks, however, I am befuddled by the meaning and use of the word "existence." Is this English word the translation of the Pali word thiti? Does the word "existence" imply life, living, consci

2020 May 09 21:15:38
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2020 May 09 20:48:57
Johann: Apsara in Pali: accharā, translation actually "A Whoo!"

2020 May 09 20:45:38
Johann: "...“Then take joy, Nanda. Take joy! I am your guarantor for getting 500 dove-footed nymphs.”..."

2020 May 09 20:45:17
Johann: "“What do you think, Nanda? Which is lovelier, better looking, more charming: the Sakyan girl, the envy of the countryside, or these 500 dove-footed nymphs?”..."

2020 May 09 20:43:26
Johann: There was a Bhikkhu "who got an email from an ex-co-dweller" and thought he will return to lower life, Nyom: Nanda Sutta

2020 May 09 20:35:41
Johann: It's actually just about the clothes, since his livemode is already a great Samaneras one.

2020 May 09 20:33:48
Cheav Villa: Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana never heard about the Bhuddha promised..  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 20:33:17
Johann: Till end of Vassa maybe?

2020 May 09 20:25:18
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Should try an ordination which in 7days.  _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 20:16:21
Johann: Apsara (dove feet Devatas).

2020 May 09 20:13:19
Johann: Temporary ordination is pretty normal, 3 days, a month, a Vassa... and not to forget that the Buddha promised union with the Asparas, which are beyond being compareable to others...

2020 May 09 19:25:54
Moritz: No no, I really prefer to be a householder, even though not having a house at the moment. I am not much inclined towards nekkhamma...  ^-^
... even though already doing some nekkhamma now, but not hoping to do so for the long term....

2020 May 09 19:24:05
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 09 19:08:20
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 09 19:00:58
Johann: When not working he is already used to where his beige light clean cloth, morning, noon, evening and already good organized.

2020 May 09 18:52:05
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 09 18:39:04
Johann: Nyom has his working dress and his light formal dress. White he might have possible to much troubles, so better to convince him toward robes.  :)

2020 May 09 17:38:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ Master Moritz should wear white clothes.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2020 May 07 15:18:07
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 10:33:24
Johann: Householder clothes are really no more proper for Upasaka Khemadasa.... good to take him fear of the robes

2020 May 07 10:21:10
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 May 07 10:19:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 07 06:02:32
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 07 05:46:38
Johann: Sadhu

2020 May 07 03:25:02
Khemakumara: May it be a path-and fruitful vesak Uposatha

2020 May 06 16:07:14
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 06 16:02:35
Johann: A blessed Vesaka Puja all, today and tomorrow, in reflection the goodness and qualities of the Sublime Buddha.

2020 May 04 21:25:10
Johann: followed by another overload by huawei-search engines... fixed

2020 May 04 20:31:45
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 04 20:25:53
Johann: A MS search engine (Bing) had overloaded the server capacity and might had caused the page not to be reached, but a cave-programmer quickly solved the issue, becoming aware of it. Sadhu

2020 May 03 21:13:46
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante Ariyadhammika _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 20:32:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 19:15:52
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2020 May 03 15:01:43
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 May 03 12:53:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 May 03 12:07:17
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 May 03 12:00:57
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 May 03 09:39:36
Johann: ...and the snake hunts the mice...

2020 May 03 09:11:20
Johann: Dwelling like Devas under Devas, peaceful, respectful, careful, harmless

2020 Apr 30 10:05:08
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:15:43
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 29 21:08:53
Johann: May all spend a meritful end of Sila-day, those who taking on it today, and maybe continue with those doing so tomorrow.

2020 Apr 29 20:09:39
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 29 20:07:29
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:26:31
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2020 Apr 26 20:23:57
Cheav Villa: and Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Apr 26 20:23:33
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:30
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Apr 26 19:56:25
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 08:18:19
Cheav Villa: _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 26 07:18:02
Johann: Ādīnava , អដីនវ, As one of ten perceptions: AN 10.60

2020 Apr 26 07:09:32
Johann: May Dukkha be visible for all, so to stay on the path  that leads beyond and liberation.

2020 Apr 25 16:57:34
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 25 15:54:00
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 23 18:41:59
Johann: Sadhu for care to report and assist

2020 Apr 23 18:39:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_ I kana now not get notification.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Apr 23 15:04:07
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Apr 23 13:45:57
Khemakumara: Upāsikā

2020 Apr 22 11:17:56
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Apr 22 06:38:01
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2020 Apr 22 05:45:37
Khemakumara: karuṇā, corona? which one prefers?   may it a fruit- and pathful Uposatha!

2020 Apr 21 19:53:51
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Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach on internet-realm
« on: March 25, 2014, 06:37:18 PM »
[a simple translation, maybe I find the German original as well, you may integrate this pracitce here or where ever you like]

Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach on internet-realm

Some times ago, I joined the real of devas and asuras (internet) not aware of doing so at this time. At the first time I was really shocked about how Dhamma was used and how careless resources are used but I thought better to avoid it make it to a useful challenge. So I tried to understand the reasons for it and what could be done to make it a useful possibility, having in mind what all the use of energy causes.

For sure this kind of practice I like to introduce is not well developed and I am not a good explainer but maybe it gives somebody an inspiration as I think this kind of meditation can cover the whole Buddhist practice also while dwelling in this fine bodily realm. (some creativity is needed to understand it in condition with the traditional Buddha Dhamma, but it could be also used – if good developed as guideline – as a straight forward training)

Internet realm is a place where many very sensible beings decided to rest. It's a little aside of the whole spectrum of Dukkha but still contains everything for a beneficial practice. Many beings which appears in this realm have no good possibilities for practice and often seek it as a window for their normal recluse beside business as usual.

In this approach I also tried to do not miss a good amount of ironic and humor which is always useful especially at the beginning of practice. Like always, the inward looking using this aspects is important, so ironic and humor is well used by pointing just to one self. In this tread I like to draw a round possibility to use the given as good as possible form a dharmic and also modern view. "Continue wise wherever you are"

I also like to show my gratitude to all people which kept to be patience regarding my kind and never missed to trust nature as well as to all the teachers I met in this realm. Like everything in our world, it’s a matter of depending co-arising and never self made.

The origin of Googlyana

Googlyana is a compounded word. “Gooly” comes from the sport cricket and reflects beside the memorization on google (with is a very popular tool or vehicle for knowledge) also the subtile technique and its aim:

The explaining of gooly from wiki :

While a normal leg break spins from the leg to the off side, away from a right-handed batsman, a googly spins the other way, from off to leg, into a right-handed batsman (and is distinct from an off break delivery). The bowler achieves this change of spin by bending the wrist sharply from the normal leg break delivery position. When the ball rolls out of the hand (from the side near the little finger, as in a normal leg break), it emerges with clockwise spin (from the bowler's point of view). A googly may also be achieved by bowling the ball as a conventional leg break, but spinning the ball further with the fingers just before it is released.

Short: a going on bowled as if to break one way that actually breaks in the opposite way

The meaning in context with the Buddhist practice here can be seen as, using the normal way of modern times while putting a converse spin into all actions which would result a different effect even others are well undisturbed.
So the focus is on practicing the right spin till the time the practice will find the floor and as soon the floor is hit the practice on the future way will be in the right direction without having caused to much troubles before in swimming against the worldly stream.

The second part of the word is "yana" which means path or vehicle and represents the raft till reaching the eightfold path and the further raft of the true pure eightfold path to reach the other shore and end suffering.

The idea of to develop this vehicle a little was about 12 month ago and the name was inspired by a fellow forum user on Dhammawheel as the fourth great vehicle in the topic Knowledge is not realization !. After my first experiences online and the support of many teasing teacher (a deep bow and gratitude on this point) on Dhammawheel for some month and learning the modern ways of practical googeling and suttayana to restrain in discussions, I came one month later to a german board where I faced similar situations but a easier possibility to work softer (edged) and more efficient with words. There I tried to verbalize this vehicle (which is actually as long existing as there is communication via internet) and introduce it while practicing it intensively for some month by my self. Here on freesangha I remembered it again yesterday and thought to give it maybe possibility to grow or an inspiration form more talented people in teaching to use the idea it in their intention to make Dhamma better accessible online beside words although my verbal possibilities are very limited. *smile*

The mindfulness training in Googlyana was more that useful for my own benefit as well I would like to call it also from benefit for many others (form sure its just a personal impression). It also carries the possibility to be not to clinical which would scare newcomers to Buddha Dhamma and give also humor and socializing a base next to serious practice without the danger of much misunderstandings.

So all in all it’s a try to unite not only different traditions but gives also possibilities to walk either a clinical or an esoteric way. It brings living samples on the scream and compensates some missing qualities in the normal deva and asura realm (internet) as well as it is a try to transport the meaning of practice into the most used tool(mouth) of our time, the cyber world.
Also it can provide a basement for some additional explaining to moral and ethical conducts in our cyber time as today its very difficult to see the whole thing of cause and effect the mass of suffering and the first noble truth.

So just take it serious in not taking it to much serious!
Practice brings a other kind of joy. *smile*

And like always, if not useful: just throw it away and beware:

« Last Edit: March 25, 2014, 07:21:52 PM by Johann »
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The noble cyber-user - Sila in the Goolyana tradition
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2014, 07:02:43 PM »
The noble cyber-user - Sila in the Goolyana tradition

Buddha had given those who see the danger in worldly live a possibility (path) to stay as safe as possible in the circle on wandering on (samsara) as well as staying part of the worldly part of society. In the frame of this path (Dhamma Vinaya) one is able to engage with the hard wood of Dhamma while practicing mindfulness. The “rules” give support that one gets not in touch with harmful situations and secure the current existence for the own welfare as well as for the welfare of others. It’s the way of the middle path, between ascetic and crapulence and keeps both the tradition as well as the worldly way of life in contact and interaction for the continuously grow.

Beside the highest virtue of the Dhamma Vinaya there are the simple training precepts for laypeople.

The foundation of Silas (ethical training precepts) is compassion. Compassion means sharing but not dislike (hate) as well as not making something his own (greed) and is the protection which works for oe self as well as for all other beings at the same time.

All precepts do find their roots in the basic Buddhist intention:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"And what is right resolve? Being resolved on renunciation, on freedom from ill-will, on harmlessness: This is called right resolve."

— SN 45.8

Which has been formed to the basic precepts for layman:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

1. Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from destroying living creatures.
2. Adinnadana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from taking that which is not given.
3. Kamesu micchacara veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from sexual misconduct.
4. Musavada veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from incorrect speech .
5. Suramerayamajja pamadatthana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from intoxicating drinks and drugs which lead to carelessness.
Quote from: The 5 Precepts

And the additional three precepts for intensive practice:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

1. Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from destroying living creatures.
2. Adinnadana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from taking that which is not given.
3. Abrahmacariya veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from sexual activity.
4. Musavada veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from incorrect speech.
5. Suramerayamajja pamadatthana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from intoxicating drinks and drugs which lead to carelessness.
6. Vikalabhojana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from eating at the forbidden time (i.e., after noon).
7. Nacca-gita-vadita-visukkadassana mala-gandha-vilepana-dharana-mandana-vibhusanathana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from dancing, singing, music, going to see entertainments, wearing garlands, using perfumes, and beautifying the body with cosmetics.
8. Uccasayana-mahasayana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from lying on a high or luxurious sleeping place.
Quote from: The 8 Precepts

The seventh precept is split into two precepts and the additional precept of refraining of taking an using money among the ten ten precepts of a trainee to the highest virtue.

I will take the ten precepts as a foundation for ideas regarding Googlyana additions and explaining of this precepts:

I undertake the precept to refrain from destroying living creatures.

For existences in the deva and asure realm of internet, this means to do not harm other uses or even cause them to lose their existence in their present appearance (avatar or user of a specific platt form). So one needs to be careful to act not in the intention to destroy cyber existence and shorten the live of somebody. Banner or force others to banner a person is regarded as destroying life and leads to suffering for one self and for others. A banned being does not disappear form the circle of wandering on and will sooner or later appear on another place in another form. Banner somebody causes later crisis of conscience as mildest form of ripping karma out of this case or banner in return.
It also means to avoid self destruction or destroying of his own avatar as also this leads to suffering. So if a avatar is not used any more, just let it be like it is. No need to destruct it (delete the own account).
Harming means also to cause not the delete of one's appearing like for example posts or even damaging web space or spread programs which are harmful to others like cyber virus and other harmful software.

I undertake the precept to refrain from taking that which is not given.

The realm of internet is full of taking what is not given. Pirate copy, illegal downloads and so on. It should be no problem to keep this precept if one just looks at international and national worldly laws but it also goes deeper. So one should reflect if some takings even they are suggested are needed and feed a good practice and not only some additional join are grasping after cyber wealth.
This precept need to be reflected regarding data’s as well as in regard of software. In the case of the hardware, energy and so on a taking should be always in good balance with its benefit as long one needs to provide his needs in from of taking. Having all now, one would be able to abstain form additional taking what is not given freely from now on and maybe share things which are not needed to others to get the possibility to access the internet realm.

I undertake the precept to refrain from sexual activity.

Well, we know that most of the potential of internet is used to provide the pleasure of sexual activities and romance. It’s useful to reduce such intentions and abstain form using internet as a platform of such activities. We know enough samples where the first and second precept is immediately involved in such activities.

I undertake the precept to refrain from incorrect speech

I guess this precept is the most trained precept in the internet realm and would be perfected while using googlyana’s mindfulness practice . A useful topic here on this forum might be How to approach disagreements - the Buddha's guidelines

I undertake the precept to refrain from intoxicating drinks and drugs which lead to carelessness.

In the first moment it seems to be irrelevant but thinking on online games and other mind defusing activities in the internet real it is worthy for some investigations.

I undertake the precept to refrain from eating at the forbidden time (i.e., after noon).

Huuch! *smile* A very big problem for longtime googlyanis. We actually eat which six mouths and one of it is our mind it self, so it might be useful to give activities which seek for pleasure and food for the mind on internet strict times and abstain form ordinary surfing after a fix time or give it a always reduced time-frame.

I undertake the precept to refrain from dancing, singing, music, going to see entertainments

I would say 90% of all potential of internet and the energy as well as the lives behind is “wasted” through the use as entertainment platform. It might seem as a harmless possibility to get beloved pleasure but especially when it is not just given freely it causes much pain on other places in or world. In developing this precept one could start to abstain from searching after such entertainments, later maybe to abstain form joining even one is invited.

I undertake the precept to refrain from wearing garlands, using perfumes, and beautifying the body with cosmetics.

Its seems that there are less appears of beautifying the body, but as soon as we look at our digital appearance we might see beautiful pictures to identify our personality on web as well as links and also cyber wealth (websites and blogs) to make our self looking good. So reducing such intentions to make one self looking of more value can be seen in this precept as well also on internet.

I undertake the precept to refrain from lying on a high or luxurious sleeping place

This precept can be seen in regard of dwelling on high presents in broadly recognized high positions on web. It leads us to stay down on earth as well as not using lower positions to appear higher in level. So every dwelling on one place should be as down on earth as possible.
Also using the highest technology and hardware would be a matter of this precept.

I undertake the precept to refrain of using money and gold

If somebody provides his live with work on internet it’s not useful to adopt in the whole amount on cyberspace but one could abstain form business in all areas where Dhamma is involved. There is much Dharma business among many websites and activities which one could refrain of. On the other hand there is so much Dhamma Dana, that it is really not needed to force Dharma business but increases the quality of given and receiving to a level that ends in “without strings”

This are just some impulses and ideas about the big spectrum of Silas in the internet realm. The thematic of Vinaya adoption in addition is also an interesting issue and will maybe find some other discussions.

How ever a precept is individual understood is up to the person, so its good to reflect always on the original precepts which are simply and pointing always on the intention. It makes no sense to try to keep any precept if the meaning is not understood just to let it seem that one keeps it.
Over all precepts are training tools and not laws which would cause punishment by third, so step by step according to the personal awareness.


May all user see the wholesome possibilities of their current existence!
May all user protect them well with compassion!
May nobody limit the existence of other users and may no user take his own existence harmfully in this realm!

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Mindfulness practice and meditation in Googlyana
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 07:10:21 PM »
Mindfulness practice and meditation in Googlyana
In practicing Googlyana, like in all other traditions, practicing is important. To be just a Buddhist or a Googlyanaist does not bring benefit for one self as well as it does not benefit others. Practicing makes masters.

Buddhist forums (Forhara) but also other forums can be used for this kind of mindfulness practice/mediation. At the same time this surrounding can be used to still the desire for knowledge and information as well as a base of exchange of it. The “skillful” speech is deeply connected with the Silas (compassion) as a practitioner strives for avoiding harm.

In the surrounding of a Buddhist Forhara the three pillows of practice are also evident and useable: Wisdom/Panna – Compassion/Sila – Mindfulness/Sati

I will start with the pillow of Sati

Technique of mindfulness in Forhara’s:

A short introduction and reasoning:

Emos and Smiles: As nice as they might be, as much Emos (Emotions better vedana) they will produce… The mad smiles *devil* *angry* are not so worse as nobody would use them easily honestly as they would be mostly an agreement with anger (who likes to show “negative” emotions) and would lead to smiles like *laugh* *smirk* and *roar* in an emotional surrounding. This would lead to degradation and furthermore to struggle *laugh* and to *ashamed* *red face* *tears* and *oh dear*
The signs “actually I am to lacy to write”, “sink or swim!” or “take a hard look” like *question* *look there* *here!* appear condescend. The “I am a worm” smile* might be sometimes useful to turn down one’s own ego but on one hand it produces pity and suffering for others and honestly, who likes to show such things in public.

So it makes for sure sense to reduce the use of smiles even thought that one or the other genius smile can have some humorous value which might uplift somebody or appears neutralizing.

For sure it’s the best to stay always clinical and read just words after words, but who is really able to stay on such a level, especial on the beginning of practice? And we also would miss a great opportunity interacting can provide. If it’s all about intellectual knowledge, forums are actually useless and would be better changed into good searching machines.

The main idea of this meditation technique therefore is to reflect on feelings and intention after writing a sentence. This practice is not only useful for one self but also useful for others and does not infect people who do not take it as their practice in the normal way.

Especial western (modern) people are used to orientate on physical signs of body and face to be able to understand others expressions better. Here we face the lack of it and normally the possibility to react a little wiser if somebody is caught by intensive delusion as a self protection as well as a help for others. And here a alternative Methode not only to express but also to reflect more on feelings, intentions and reactions.

Googlyana-Forhara-meditation, a fast method to mindfulness and realizations:

The user (beings) is able to begin right now without any knowledge of meditation. All he needs to do is: After having written a quote/words one needs to color the by one self located emotional enmeshed text parts.

At the beginning the grasping (greed) for information and exchange (after Panna-wisdom and Sila-Moral conducts) which is needed to come to visit a forum, is not so relevant and needs no rating yet (note: for sure one needs to prove if the motivation is right and its really about Buddha Dharma otherwise a practice would not very useful)

•   Text passages regarding questions and answers on topic which are recognized as neutral (for sure it’s always a self investigation) and topic relevant will stay black. (Note: its always good to remember the original post if not clear visible)
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Re: Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach on internet-realm
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2014, 07:24:23 PM »
1.   Frist Traininglevel „Off-Topic - On-Topic“
In this first step of training, one tries to investigate own text if it is relevant to the topic and in the stream of the discussion to it and text passages which are not on topic and simply color them blue.

At the beginning it might be that there are very less text passages which one realizes as offtopic and most of the text will stay black. With continuing practice and “reminder of others”, the mindfulness will increase and the determination will grow better. There is no need to abstain from the blue text passages but it is useful to just note/mark them. For others it would not contain a reason for quarrel as these text is marked and so not needed to be read if one does not wish to be involved in side talks.
This training will lead like a flow into the second training level as sooner or later the motivation and reason would be requested by others or by one self.

Note: Text in black does not contain any subjective discrimination, it could be that the text is very mindful or lacks of any mindfulness, so there is no danger if somebody keeps passages just black.


Mark the text you like to color, for example  I am not sure with your courser and select in the toolbar "Change Color" the color "blue"

or type:

Code: [Select]
[color=blue]I am not sure[/color]

The text selected text needs to have [color=blue] at the beginning and [/color] at its end. It would appear like that: I am not sure as soon you post it. For undo it, you need to delete this codes manually.

2.   The secound Training level „Emotions“ (or better feelings)

It’s actually a refinement of the first step. After looking for On-Topic and Off-Topic one needs to look for the reasons behind (in the black text as well as in the blue text) and colors the passages with Emo-colors or colors which sign the feelings (vedana) behind. To be able to do so, one needs to observe feelings and get some knowledge about them. There is no problem to color them in advance, knowing that a feeling is present but one should also reflect on this before finally posting the post. It’s important that one does only focus on his own text and do not mix his own text up which preceded post’s, even use them as a tool. This does not mean that one more time reading of a posting of others is not useful. Actually it would increases mindfulness. It’s important to remember that this mindfulness training has not the purpose to conquer others but to conquer one self. So watch as well as possible your own mind and do not speculate on others even use this meditation tool as a mad tool.

Step by step!

Choosing the right color: As all joy (worldly) and suffering contains greed (lobha) and harded (dosa) I choose to differ not in greed and hatred (bad or good) as they have the same nature but are only two sides of a coin, but in the intensity of this mind phenomena's.

Note: defuse feelings (uppeka vedana) as well as expressions of equanimity (uppeka) are contained in the color black and do not need a separation.

I gave them four levels of intensity and like to describe the fictive level and its opposite on the other side of the coin. 

Hate (dosa)_______________Greed__________________Color

Angry____________________smitten__________________red  (attributes of hate and greed very evident)
Cynically(high-spirited)_______arrogating (claiming)_______orange
Shyly_____________________sad____________________green(attributes of hate and greed very less evident)

So the color (attachment) spectrum starts with
black (unaware - defuse)
red (heavy attached)
orange (good attached)
pink (attached)
green (less attached)
back to
black again.

With these levels the grade of attachment could be graduated. It’s useful to do it in that way even at least there is no real graduation. Greed is greed and hatred is hatred. At least there is attachment or no attachment, but for the first steps this kind of graduating would be to row.

If a group wishes to practice together in this way, it is useful to adopt the same color system. With this color schedule one is able to practice fast and effect as one can use statements of others later on and reflect on them (normally there is a long correspondence and a use of many posts till one gets some messages).
With this practice the pendulum of taking (accepting - loose) and giving (dish - win) grows slower or does not have big attitudes soon. A Forhara with many honestly practicing Googlyanis would grow soon to a colorful place and many meta – discussions would disappear with time even they are not offensively displaced. All Dharma’s have their room.
Even for visitors or those who use the Forhara (forum) as a place of socializing and meeting point of relations, the strange expressions through the colors would have its teaching and learning effects. For those who are straight seekers and who use to abstain from involvements of worldly character, it would be also easy to avoid them by “ignoring” the colored passages.

Googlyana is useful for everyone and does not discriminate different practitioner or people with different levels of insight!

3.   The third training level „later dye“ (longtime investigation)

While the first and second step focus on the investigation before doing a verbal-physical act in by typing a new post, the third step invites to investigate historical posts and review their results.
This practice is recommended in times if there is no intention for new topics or posts (no questions or answers) but the time to practice online.
If we see older pictures of our self, we can realize the change of our body. If we look at our old posts and try to remember our intentions and emotions, we realize not only the change of our mind states but also our old failures as well as our progress in practice. We learn to understand cause and effects and will understand much more as before. So to read the own text one more time and try to color it is not just a waste of time but a very good opportunity to investigate longtime effects of our actions and the impermanence of feelings what ever they might have caused (wholesome or unwholesome effects)

Also regarding the third level, it’s important to focus on one’s own actions even the interactional situations are useful to understand. Just correct your self and color your own text.

So with this three steps adopted we can follow easy and in interaction with others the advice like Buddha had taught to his son Rahula (from Instructions to Rahula at Mango Stone :

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

"What do you think, Rahula: What is a mirror for?"

"For reflection, sir."

"In the same way, Rahula, bodily actions, verbal actions, & mental actions are to be done with repeated reflection.

"Whenever you want to do a verbal action, you should reflect on it: 'This verbal action I want to do — would it lead to self-affliction, to the affliction of others, or to both? Would it be an unskillful verbal action, with painful consequences, painful results?' If, on reflection, you know that it would lead to self-affliction, to the affliction of others, or to both; it would be an unskillful verbal action with painful consequences, painful results, then any verbal action of that sort is absolutely unfit for you to do. But if on reflection you know that it would not cause affliction... it would be a skillful verbal action with pleasant consequences, pleasant results, then any verbal action of that sort is fit for you to do.

So before posting, one can prove (recalling his experiences of the past) if this would lead to harm. There is no need to abstain from writing such things at the beginning of the practice, but its good for the training to color them.

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

"While you are doing a verbal action, you should reflect on it: 'This verbal action I am doing — is it leading to self-affliction, to the affliction of others, or to both? Is it an unskillful verbal action, with painful consequences, painful results?' If, on reflection, you know that it is leading to self-affliction, to the affliction of others, or to both... you should give it up. But if on reflection you know that it is not... you may continue with it.

So while you are writing one post of the other you can carefully watch if a harm arises and stop or change the way you do.

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

"Having done a verbal action, you should reflect on it: 'This verbal action I have done — did it lead to self-affliction, to the affliction of others, or to both? Was it an unskillful verbal action, with painful consequences, painful results?' If, on reflection, you know that it led to self-affliction, to the affliction of others, or to both; it was an unskillful verbal action with painful consequences, painful results, then you should confess it, reveal it, lay it open to the Teacher or to a knowledgeable companion in the holy life. Having confessed it... you should exercise restraint in the future. But if on reflection you know that it did not lead to affliction... it was a skillful verbal action with pleasant consequences, pleasant results, then you should stay mentally refreshed & joyful, training day & night in skillful mental qualities.

The third training step covers this advice.

The whole mindfulness training taking the coloring of text passages as the tool for practice would lead to the kind of improvement the Buddha advised for a happy existence where ever you are and to purify your mind for further trainings and insight meditation.

It also would cover big parts of the fourfold mindfulness the Buddha had advised in the Satipatthana Sutta but gives also possibilities for practicing experiences while following other meditation practices to understand the second noble truth better.

A discussion forum is a relative long lasting mirror, which allows easier longtime investigations as the foot prints do not disappear very fast.

This kind of practice is not one very useful for one self but also gives others the possibility to learn form your honest practice and can be quoted as a practice for one self and others which will never be criticized by the wise. So it covers also much Bodhisattva practice.

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

For oneself, for others

"Of two people who practice the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma, having a sense of Dhamma, having a sense of meaning — one who practices for both his own benefit and that of others, and one who practices for his own benefit but not that of others — the one who practices for his own benefit but not that of others is to be criticized for that reason, the one who practices for both his own benefit and that of others is, for that reason, to be praised."

AN 7.64

side information: The origin of the Googlyana
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To start right now
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2014, 07:33:50 PM »
To start right now

To start right now it is useful to copy the text inside the code frame into your signature on this board as well as the date of your start (so that it is possible to see which posts have been made before this “mindfulness” training and which after)

Code: [Select]
[center][iurl=,1185.0.html][glow=blue,2,300]Googlyana Mindfulness practicing[/glow][/iurl] 
[size=5pt][u]Hate (dosa)......................Greed........................Color[/u]
[color=orange]Cynically(high-spirited).......arrogating (claiming)[/color]
[color=blue]Off -[/color]
participating since  -------[/size][/center]

which would appear like this:

Googlyana Mindfulness practicing
Hate (dosa)......................Greed........................Color
Cynically(high-spirited).......arrogating (claiming)
Off -
participating since  -------

or copy the light version:

Code: [Select]
[center][iurl=,1185.0.html][glow=blue,2,300]Googlyana Mindfulness practicing[/glow][/iurl] 
participating since ----[/center]

which would look like this:

Googlyana Mindfulness practicing
participating since ----

To add the link to this explaining of the Googlyana – Mindfulness training as well as the color information’s would invites others to participate and can therefore be quoted as Dharma Dana.

The efficient practice follows automatically with interacting as well as with guidance of the moderators.
It should be avoided to discuss with other Users regarding the choice of a color (feeling) accept in very evident situations of misunderstanding. Practicing brakes are well done in the chart box. Don’t forget to leave the chat box without carry some attachments into the forum.
For social interacting as well as place to just express frustration the chat box is more useful as the board it self.

Isn’t that a mindfulness practice which would make sense?

…teasing and defending does not need to be avoided strictly but can be used to train more mindfulness and will make one self automatically more respectful while honestly reflecting. So we can use the Forhara not only for our search after panna –wisdom but also as a basis for mindfulness training and training in the Sila of “skillful” speech at the same time.

I wish you much joy and happiness while discovery the world of the “I” on the path of the virtual Googlyana. This system is on all boards with color function practicable like this sample.

May all User find access to Dharma!
May all User be free of suffering soon!
May all beings find happiness and peace for them self with ease!
Peace is possible link by link!


I will try to provide the additional steps here and some more material to the Googlyana (practicing on internet) in other topics and will add the links.
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Re: Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach on internet-realm
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2014, 07:55:08 PM »
Offerings for hungry ghosts in Googleyana

Practicing honor and respect for hungry ghosts in the internet realm. *smile*

Hungry ghost or Peta (pa + ita; lit., departed beings, or (those) absolutely devoid of happiness)

Being reborn in the real of hungry ghosts might happen to the most former human beings having performed unwholesome karma in their lives.

Having a consciousness (realm) like a hungry ghost does not mean that one appears in the material form as we might thing. Its also possible to be a human with a consciousness like a hungry ghost.

"Some of your ancestors and deceased loved ones may have been reborn as hungry ghosts, no longer able to fend for themselves. In this poem the Buddha explains that it is to your long-term benefit — and to theirs — that you honor their memory with gifts."

If you think that there might be a hungry ghost, think of it. It could be your deceased beloved. *smile*

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

Hungry Shades Outside the Walls

Outside the walls they stand,
& at crossroads.
At door posts they stand,
returning to their old homes.
But when a meal
with plentiful food & drink is served,
no one remembers them:

Such is the kamma of living beings.
Thus those who feel sympathy
for their dead relatives
give timely donations
of proper food & drink
— exquisite, clean — [thinking:]
"May this be for our relatives.
May our relatives be happy!"

And those who have gathered there,
the assembled shades of the relatives,
with appreciation give their blessing
for the plentiful food & drink:
"May our relatives live long
because of whom we have gained [this gift].
We have been honored,
and the donors are not without reward!"

For there [in their realm] there's no farming,
no herding of cattle,
no commerce, no trading with money.
They live on what is given here,
hungry shades whose time here is done.
As water raining on a hill
flows down to the valley,
even so does what is given
here benefit the dead.

As rivers full of water fill the ocean full,
even so does what is given
here benefit the dead.
"He gave to me, she acted on my behalf,
they were my relatives,
companions, friends":

Offerings should be given for the dead
when one reflects thus on things done in the past.
For no weeping,
no sorrowing no other lamentation
benefits the dead
whose relatives persist in that way.

But when this offering is given,
well-placed in the Sangha,
it works for their long-term benefit
and they profit immediately.
In this way the proper duty to relatives
has been shown,
great honor has been done to the dead,
and monks have been given strength:
The merit you've acquired isn't small.

Some famous peta's form the pali canon:


The name given to one of the stories of the Petavatthu. The peta referred to had been a resident near Veluvana. Once he was going along the road eating a sugar cane and carrying a bundle of sugar canes. Behind him came another man of good conduct, with a child. The child, seeing the sugar cane, begged for some of it with great lamentations. The good man wishing to console the child, walked up to the sugar cane-eater and tried to make friends. His efforts were, however, unsuccessful, and when he begged for a piece of sugar cane for the child, the man sulkily threw him a bit from the end of the sugar cane. This man, after his death, was born as a peta. Around him was a forest of sugar canes, but whenever he attempted to eat any of them he got badly bruised and wounded. One day Moggallāna saw him, and having discovered his antecedents told him about his past profitless life. He made the peta get for him a piece of sugar cane, which he offered to the Buddha and the monks. As a result of this, the peta was reborn in Tāvatimsa.


One of Bimbisāra's judges, who was a cheat, a slanderer, and a taker of bribes, once observed the fast for half a day through a friend's persuasion. He died that night and was born as a Vemānika-peta. He enjoyed divine pleasures, but was condemned to eat the flesh off his own back in expiation of his evil deeds.

Nārada saw this peta and reported his story to the Buddha.


1. Sūkarapeta. A peta who lived on Gijjhakūta. His body was human, but his head was that of a pig; out of his mouth grew a tail, and from the tail oozed maggots. Moggallāna saw him and reported the matter to the Buddha. The Buddha said that he, too, had seen the peta. In a previous birth he had been a preacher of the Law, but, wishing to obtain possession of a monastery which he visited, he brought about dissension between the two monks who had lived there on the friendliest terms. After death he suffered in Avīci for a whole Buddhantara, and was reborn in the peta world.

Being a hungry ghost means to be not able to move to another place. Different from a Deva for example, which is able to change its place of dwelling.

Peta's in Googlyana means User which are "bounded" to a Forhara (forum) and not able to take teachings they would like to still their desire (understanding the Dhamma).
Usually Peta's are not able to harm anybody, but constantly harm them self in seeking to still their desire. So generally there is no need to fear them. But remembering that a Peta could be deceased loved ones it would be good to give them a share. Some are able to receive offered gifts if they had done merits in their past.

The Peta Vatthu is the seventh book of the Khuddaka Nikāya and consists of stories of persons born in the peta world owing to various misdeeds.  Download the Peta Vatthu (pdf)

In Buddhist influenced societies (but also in western cultures in the past) it is usually to have places to offer gifts to Petas. Also ever Vihara would have such places to give offerings. It might be useful to have such places also in a Forhara to share metta, honor and harmonic. Traditional if one would enter a Vihara, house or place he would make an offer to the hongry ghosts bounded on this place. Remember that hungry ghosts have a mouth like a needle and feed normally on sanies, blood and excrement, so do not offer them rough and hard food, as they would not be able to swallow. *smile*

If one like to see another User as a hungry ghost or such appearances like Trolls is up to the individual person. Remember to share metta and remember your deceased loved ones. Offerings might help them, promoting Dharma and study Dharma for one self as well in the future.



So, that's just a sketch and when ever you like to use it and adopt it, please feel free to modify it and integrate it.

If you look for a "professional" teacher, who could be able to lead such a intensive practicing group, the only one I know would be Mr. Ground. As for a moderate practice, you can do it always and in guidance with every meditation teacher who has really practice and knows Internet a little.

The first development and practical training was on Satinanada-Forum Dec 2010: Emotionen und Motivation ausdrücken  
The secound and further development was on Buddhaland even with an invitation to the German Buddhist Associations. Could not find them any more.
The third development was on Freesangha Dec-2011: Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach at internet-realm (which is the current version here)

This forum here is also built to be able to practice it and to integrate it, if somebody wishes so.

Seriously practicing intensively for some month consequently will show you kind of results which give you great faith into the teachings of the Buddha and what mindfulness actually means. Its not easy to stick with it, of course, but its possible and to modify it a little if you understand what it is about, is no problem at all.

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Re: Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach on internet-realm
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2015, 05:16:26 PM »
Attma wird mal versuchen das alte Deutsche Original oder die Altfassungen wiederzufinden.

Mit google als Hilfe, (miss)-versteht sich  :) leicht. Hinein und hinaus.
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Re: Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach on internet-realm
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2015, 05:19:55 PM »
Es scheint, als würden einige (der Opposition?) anfangen zu kapieren, was und wo Attma so herum treibt und treibt, zum Bewußtwerden treibt, zum entsprechend handeln...  :) oder ein Zufall und das was Attma gerne sehen will, man sieht ja immer nur was man will oder was man kennt...

Just thought this was interesting, its from the beginning of lecture five here:

Analayo:[reads a question from someone who asks if the immaterial spheres were original to the teaching or a later addition]

"...The immaterial states or spheres are not called jhanas and my understanding is that they are strictly speaking not really different jhanas because they all correspond to the fourth jhana in the standard system that we get in the discourses. So we have first second third fourth this kind of series of gradually deepening states of absorption and then from the fourth absorption the basic setup of the mind in terms of the mental qualities and the strength of concentration present is the same but the object deepens. First there could have been an object [some kind of..maybe] like a light...maybe a color--someone working with the color kasina and this is being refined by letting even the perception of materiality disappear and dissolve into boundless space and then boundless space dissolves into that which is aware of boundless space - boundless consciousness. So there's a refinement of the object of the practice but if we look at it from the viewpoint of the central qualities of the concentrated mind all of this would fall under the fourth jhana this is why in some contexts we only find the four jhanas mentioned because in certain contexts when it is just a question of discussing the depth of concentration achieved it will be sufficient to discuss the four jhanas and not add on top the immaterial attainments. Now, there is a strand of scholarship which I believe goes back to Bronkhorst which argues that the immaterial spheres is a later far as I can see this is not convincing...As far as I can see it seems to me that these four immaterial spheres are integral parts of early Buddhism..." [He goes on to cite the Ariyapariyesena sutta].
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Re: Googlyana - a Dharma practice approach on internet-realm
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2015, 05:26:04 PM »
Das war denkt Attma, danke der Hilfe (?) Gaggas später, der Beginn es zu Verbalisierens und vorstellens:

Emotionen und Motivation ausdrücken

War übrigens auch das erste Mal wo Attma, erst kennen gelernt dachte, etwas in Wiki einzutragen. Googlyana unter Buddhismus auf Wiki. Na das war eine Abführ... von Spam bis Wir berichten nur über wahres... und bekanntes...  :) delete
Ist ja keine Inovative Ausrichtung mehr dort, sondern ein ums weiterexistieren kämpfende Virtueller Staat.

Creatives (virtuelles)

(nicht weiterteilen, könnte unter Copierights sein, Attma hat es noch nicht näher angesehen...)

Wenn man im Buddhaland unter goolyana sucht, findet man die Überreste, dort hat Attma es nicht nur zu Ende entwickelt, verbalisiert und dokumentiert wie niedergeschrieben, aber das ist wohl einem Tolwütigen Buddhistischen Staatsoberhaupt ein Dorn im Auge gewesen... Schone Grüße ans Herumbuddhaland-Admin und Moderatorenteam (oder gibts da nur mehr einen?)

Letztes is supa:


    «Was, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, ist gewichtiger und stärker: das (karmisch) Heilsame oder Unheilsame?»

    «Das Heilsame, o König.»

    «Nicht stimme ich dem bei, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena. Man trifft doch Mörder, Diebe, sich geschlechtlich Vergehende, Lügner, Dorfräuber, Wegelagerer, Fälscher und Betrüger; und alle diese haben für solche böse Taten zu leiden. Mancher, der des Nachts eine böse Tat begangen hat, erleidet seine Strafe bisweilen schon in derselben Nacht oder am folgenden Tage. Mancher wiederum, der am Tage etwas begangen hat, erleidet seine Strafe bisweilen schon an demselben Tage oder in der darauf folgenden Nacht. Andere wieder ereilt die Strafe nach Verlauf von zwei bis drei Tagen. Alle aber haben sie die Strafe schon hier bei Lebzeiten zu erleiden. Gibt es nun wohl aber, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, irgend einen, der, nachdem er einer Person oder zwei, drei, vier oder fünf Personen oder zehn, hundert, tausend oder hunderttausend Personen Gaben mit allem Zubehör gespendet hat, zufolge seiner Sittlichkeit oder seiner Befolgung des Feiertages (uposatha) schon bei Lebzeiten Reichtum oder Ruhm oder Glück genießt?»

    «Vier Menschen gibt es, o König, die dadurch, daß sie Gaben gespendet, die Sittenregeln auf sich genommen und die Feiertagshandlungen befolgt haben, schon bei Lebzeiten, mit eben dieser Körperhülle zur Götterstadt der Dreiunddreißig hingelangt sind.»

    «Welche denn, o Ehrwürdiger? Welche denn?»

    «Der König Mandhātā, der König Nimi, der König Sādhīno und Guttila, der Sänger.» (Jāt.258, Jat.533, Jat.494 u. Jat.243)

    «Das, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, ist etwas, von dem wir durch viele tausend Daseinsformen getrennt sind, und das für uns beide unerkennbar ist. Wenn du aber imstande bist, so nenne mir einen in der naheliegenden Zeit, in der der Erhabene lebte!»

    «In der neueren Zeit, o König, hat der Sklave Punnaka, nachdem er dem Ordensälteren Sāriputta Speise dargereicht hatte, noch an demselben Tage die Stelle eines Schatzmeisters erlangt und ist nun als der Schatzmeister Punnaka bekannt.
    Die Fürstin Gopāla-mātā aber wurde, nachdem sie ihre eigenen Haare verkauft und für die dafür eingenommenen acht Geldstücke dem Ordensälteren Mahā-Kaccāyana mit seinen sieben Begleitern ein Mahl gespendet hatte, noch an demselben Tage die Hauptkönigin des Königs Udena.
    Bei Suppiyā, der Anhängerin aber, welche die aus ihrem eigenen Schenkelfleisch hergerichtete Brühe einem kranken Mönch dargereicht hatte, war schon am zweiten Tage die Wunde wieder zugewachsen, mit Haut bedeckt und geheilt (Vinaya Mahāvagga VI.23).
    Und die Fürstin Mallikā (damals ein Blumenmädchen), die dem Erhabenen ihre eigene Abendgrütze als Almosengabe dargereicht hatte, wurde noch am selben Tage des Kosalerkönigs Hauptkönigin (Vinaya Pārājika I.5).
    Sumana, der Gärtner, aber, der mit acht Händen voll Jasminblüten den Erhabenen beschenkt hatte, erlangte noch an demselben Tage großen Reichtum.
    Und der Brahmane Ekasātaka, der den Erhabenen mit seinem Obergewande beschenkt hatte, erlangte noch an demselben Tage den Rang des ersten Ministers.

    Diese alle, o König, erlangten schon bei Lebzeiten Reichtum und Ehre.»

    «Nach so langem Forschen und Suchen, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, hast du dennoch bloß sechs Menschen gefunden?»

    «Ja, o König.»

    «Somit ist aber, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, das Unheilsame gewichtiger und stärker als das Heilsame. Denn schon an einem einzigen Tage sehe ich, wie zur Strafe für ihre bösen Taten zehn oder zwanzig oder dreißig oder vierzig oder fünfzig oder hundert, ja gar tausend Menschen aufgespießt werden. In der Nanda Dynastie, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, gab es einen Feldherrn namens Bhaddasāla. Zwischen diesem und Candagutta hatte sich ein Kampf entsponnen. In jenem Kampfe aber gab es in beiden Heeren achtzig kopflose Rumpfgestalten. Und jedesmal, wenn ein Haufen Köpfe voll war, erhob sich eine Gestalt in Form eines kopflosen Rumpfes (und tanzte über das Schlachtfeld hinweg). Und alle diese Wesen gerieten so als Folge ihrer bösen Taten in Not und Elend. Auch darum, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, sage ich, ist das Unheilsame gewichtiger und stärker als das Heilsame. Hat man denn, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, nicht in diesem Orden des Erleuchteten davon gehört, daß der Kosalerkönig eine unvergleichliche Gabe gespendet habe?»

    «Ja, o König, davon habe ich gehört.»

    «Hat nun wohl, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, der Kosalerkönig, nachdem er jene Gabe gespendet hatte, dafür schon bei Lebzeiten Reichtum oder Ruhm oder Glück geerntet?»

    «Nein, o König.»

    «Somit also, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, ist das Unheilsame stärker als das Heilsame.»

    «Weil eben das Unheilsame, o König, so gering ist, darum gelangt es so schnell zur Reife, während das Heilsame infolge seiner Größe lange Zeit zur Reife braucht. Auch aus einem Vergleich läßt sich dies ersehen. Es gibt da zum Beispiel in einem Lande im fernen Westen eine Getreideart namens Kumuda-Bhandikā, die monatlich geerntet und ins Haus gebracht wird. Der Reis dagegen braucht fünf bis sechs Monate zum Reifen. Worin, o König, besteht da wohl der Unterschied, die Verschiedenheit dieser beiden Getreidearten?»

    «Kumuda-Bhandikā, o Ehrwürdiger, ist klein, Reis aber groß. Und der Reis, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, ist der Könige würdig, dient selbst den Königen als Speise. Kumuda-Bhandikā aber ist die Speise der Knechte und Arbeiter.»

    «Ebenso auch, o König, gelangt das Unheilsame, eben weil es so gering ist, schnell zur Reife, während das Heilsame infolge seiner Fülle lange Zeit zur Reife braucht.»

    «Gerade das, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, was schnell reift, gilt doch in der Welt als das Bedeutendere und Stärkere. So ist also auch das Unheilsame gewichtiger und stärker als das Verdienstvolle. Ein Kämpfer zum Beispiel, der in eine große Schlacht gezogen ist und der seinen Gegner unter der Achsel packt, ihn mit sich schleift und nach kurzer Zeit seinem Herrn übergibt, solch ein Kämpfer gilt in der Welt als tüchtiger Held. Und derjenige Wundarzt, der imstande ist, in kurzer Zeit einen Pfeil zu entfernen und die Krankheit zu heilen, ein solcher gilt als tüchtiger Arzt. Und derjenige Rechner, der ganz schnell seine Rechnung ausführt und schnell das Ergebnis angibt, ein solcher gilt als tüchtiger Rechner. Und derjenige Ringkämpfer, der ganz schnell seinen Gegner in die Höhe wirft und dann flach zu Boden fallen läßt, ein solcher gilt als tüchtiger Ringkämpfer. Ebenso auch, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, gilt, was ganz schnell zur Reife gelangt - ob gut oder schlecht - in aller Welt als das Gewichtigere und Stärkere.»

    «Beide Wirkensarten, o König, zeitigen auf alle Fälle ein künftiges Ergebnis, doch das Unheilsame bringt infolge seiner Tadelhaftigkeit außerdem auch schon bei Lebzeiten seine Früchte. Von den ehemaligen Adeligen, o König, wurde das Gesetz festgelegt, daß ein jeder strafbar sei, der ein Wesen tötet, Nicht-Gegebenes nimmt, wer sich an seines Nächsten Weib vergreift, falsche Angaben macht, ein Dorf überfällt, Straßenraub treibt, Fälschung und Betrug verübt; und ein solcher mußte geschlagen, verstümmelt oder getötet werden. Und hierauf sich berufend, teilt man nach gründlicher Untersuchung die Strafe aus. Hat nun aber wohl irgend jemand ein Gesetz festgelegt, daß demjenigen, der Gaben spendet, die Sittenregeln beobachtet oder die Feiertaghandlungen verrichtet, Reichtum und Ehre zuteil werden sollen? Und untersucht man wohl so etwas und gewährt einem solchen Schätze und Ehre, so wie man den Räuber für seine verübte Tat mit Tod oder Kerker bestraft?»

    «Nein, o Ehrwürdiger.»

    «Würde man, o König, dem Almosenspender nach reiflicher Prüfung Schätze und Ehre zuteil werden lassen, so brächte eben auch das Heilsame schon bei Lebzeiten seine Früchte. Da dies aber nicht so ist, so bringt eben das Heilsame keine gegenwärtigen Früchte. Auch aus diesem Grunde, o König, bringt das Unheilsame bereits bei Lebzeiten Früchte, wohingegen der Geber im nächsten Leben um so höheres und erhabeneres Glück genießt.»

    «Vortrefflich, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena! Ohne solch einen Einsichtigen und Weisen wie dich, hätte das Problem nicht so leicht gelöst werden können. Etwas Alltägliches, ehrwürdiger Nāgasena, hast du durch überweltliche Erklärungen verständlich gemacht.» ... nda08b.htm

googlyana ist suppa! *lol*

Oder hier Tests im NEWBUDDHIST Forum, wohh war das eine mit baldigen Ban begleitete Mühe...  ^-^

oft einer der Hauptgründe um verbannt zu werden. Geschäftsstörend im Google-Imperium und seinen Kleinstaaten.

ohhh... man findet ja all sein Kamma wieder, irgendwie, wenn man nachdenkt oder googlet:

Sehr geehrte(r) MBq,

die Löschung des Artikels "Googlyana" wurde soweit mein Verständnis der Wikipedia Seite reicht, von Ihnen veranlasst. Ich erlaube mir die Beweggründe zu hinterfragen, um ähnlichen Fehlern meinerseits nicht zu wiederholen.

Danke _/\_ --Hanzze 10:02, 5. Dez. 2010 (CET)

    Gerne: Es scheint sich um einen neu erfundenen Begriff zu handeln, welcher nur in einem einzelnen Webforum verwendet wird. Damit besteht noch keine ausreichende Verbreitung im Sinne unserer Relevanzkriterien. --MBq Disk 10:07, 5. Dez. 2010 (CET)

Danke für die Geduld _/\_ Aus der Antwort geschlossen nehme ich an, dass die Entscheidung aufgrund einer Internetrecherche erfolgt ist. Wie nachgelesen, "Die Entscheidung für oder gegen die Aufnahme in eine Enzyklopädie richtet sich auch nach der Frage, ob Personen, Ereignisse oder Themen mit aktuell breiter Öffentlichkeitswirkung nach sinnvollem Ermessen auch Zeit überdauernd von Bedeutung sein werden." gehe ich davon aus, dass Ihrer Entscheidung aufgrund des markierten Bereiches des Satzes entstanden ist. Meine weitere Frage daher: Zielt dieser Satz auf das aktuell halten von Wikipedia ab, oder auf das Vermeiden einer Vergangenheits-lastigkeit im Wikipedia. Ich gebe ihnen vollkommen recht, das es eine sehr junge Manifestation eines Phänomens in der Begrifflichen Welt ist. Lässt diese Andeutung, eine nochmalige Betrachtung der "Nichtrelevanz" zu? _/\_

        Hallo Hanzze. Ich halte das für aussichtslos. Wikipedia ist nicht dafür da, Werbung für neu erfundene Begriffe zu machen. Gruß -- Andreas Werle 11:06, 5. Dez. 2010 (CET)

Danke nochmals für die Mühen und der klaren Darlegung des Grundes. Die Absicht (Motivation) bleibt immer unberührt. Mit tiefer Ehrfurcht vor dem Gründer des Wikipedias und allen Mitarbeitern. Es mag sich im "googlyana" das Verstecken, was zur Erfüllung Ihrer edlen Ziele hilft. Friede ist Möglich - Link für Link _/\_

Das Wort goolyana gibt auf google heute, 5 Jahre später 22 results  :)
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